corta765 Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 14 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Both of this teams have no fear or intimation vs Buffalo. After last year, I believe they are confident they can beat the Bills. Not sure they felt that way in several years. A belief in winning and taking the next step is crucial for the chasing teams. I am just going to point out that fear and intimation means nothing until you win the games. Miami if Tua was healthy I think would've been 11-6 maybe 12-5 and finished right on our heals. But regardless this reminds me of drought talk on how the team had improved and the Patriots looked weaker etc... and then the games happened. I certainly think the Jets are improved with Rodgers then without him and Miami IF Tua is healthy has a good shot. There are no easy division crowns, 2020 was blip against the norm. 1 Quote
What a Tuel Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 15 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Have to agree. I wouldn't be surprised if the Bills don't win the division. On paper, the Dolphins are better than the Bills except at QB. Adding Rodgers to the Jets clearly puts them right there vs Buffalo. Both of this teams have no fear or intimation vs Buffalo. After last year, I believe they are confident they can beat the Bills. Not sure they felt that way in several years. A belief in winning and taking the next step is crucial for the chasing teams. Miami split with New England like almost 50/50 between 2013 and 2019 before Brady left and made the playoffs one year. They split with us this past year and didn't win the division. The idea that we are doomed or they aren't scared of us because they can win one game is hugely overstated. 3 Quote
newcam2012 Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 11 hours ago, ganesh said: The bills were without Poter, Hyde and white in. The defensive backfield. They were without Vonn in the 2nd half. If the bills defense stays healthy I see them dominating again Come playoff time how will the Bills defense play? Quote
newcam2012 Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 12 hours ago, Einstein said: Sounds like Vegas is trying to get the low hanging fruit. We were favored in the Bengals playoff game too. I think it's pretty safe to say that Vegas made a nice profit off of the Bills odds to win the Super Bowl. People seem to forget that Vegas is a machine to manipulate odds and numbers so they can make profits. There odds for a Super Bowl favorite to win it all are very poor. 1 Quote
GoBills808 Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/26/2023 at 3:02 PM, Billl said: The over is -140. Basically, Vegas thinks they’re an 11-6 team which seems exactly right to me. The interesting part IMO is that they don’t think the Bills win the division. Fine me one single book that doesn't have the Bills as favorites to win the division Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 They have KC, Cincy, and SanFran at 11.5 wins Bills, Eagles, Jax, at 10.5 Dallas, Cleveland, NOLA, Jets, Dolphins, Chargers, and Lions at 9.5 For some perspective Quote
Saxum Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 13 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: LOL. Do you think the Chiefs and the Bengals would be in the top 3 in Super Bowl odds if Mahomes and Burrow went down? Also we are tied with the Bengals for Super Bowl odds and they are just a much better team according to you. Does DraftKings know what's going on there? DraftKings is no Einstein and would not be in business if they were. 1 Quote
Boatdrinks Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 17 hours ago, KingBoots8 said: We lost our 3 games last season by a combined total of 8 points. One of which was due to heat exhaustion wearing half our team out. Another was a bad snap. The Jets game was an “Any Given Sunday” fluke. I’ll take the over, please. Agree on the 3 games, but it just doesn’t have anything to do with what happens in 2023. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 32 minutes ago, papazoid said: the over looks good to me.....i like 12-5 Stick a couple of grand on it Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 It looks right on where I would put them Quote
newcam2012 Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: It looks right on where I would put them I like the under. Personally, I don't really like these future bets. So many unknown variables such as key injuries can really effect the outcome. Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 10.5 from 11.5 is more about the Jets going from 5.5 last year to 9.5 this year. 1 Quote
The Wiz Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 21 hours ago, Gregg said: Maybe. I think the Bills will do well at home. They do have 9 home games this year. Say they go 7-2 at OP. I could see 3-5 on the road to reach 10 wins. I do see your point especially if the injury bug hits them again. I also see a losing road record this year. That road schedule is brutal, so the Bills better do well at home. One of those home games is in Europe. FYI. Edited March 28, 2023 by The Wiz 1 Quote
Billl Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 6 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Fine me one single book that doesn't have the Bills as favorites to win the division Find me one that doesn’t pay more than even money for them winning. Just because they’re the favorites doesn’t mean they’re favored over the field. The Jaguars, Chiefs, and 49ers are the only teams who have a better than 50-50 shot at winning their divisions. Last year at this time, the Bills were on that list. Quote
Locomark Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 That is a very fair line looking at our schedule and knowing we have no one at MLB and likely won’t have Von in September. Quote
SCBills Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, Locomark said: That is a very fair line looking at our schedule and knowing we have no one at MLB and likely won’t have Von in September. Nobody sets lines based on MLB. We’ve been bizarrely trained to feel like any hole on the Defense is some gigantic issue. The only pieces on a defense that, maybe, move the needle the slightest bit are a lockdown corner and elite pass rusher. That’s it. Quote
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 11 hours ago, newcam2012 said: Come playoff time how will the Bills defense play? I'm concerned with the regular season defense. The front 7 looks poor 1 Quote
Locomark Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: Nobody sets lines based on MLB. We’ve been bizarrely trained to feel like any hole on the Defense is some gigantic issue. The only pieces on a defense that, maybe, move the needle the slightest bit are a lockdown corner and elite pass rusher. That’s it. But the combo on no Von and 50% of our LBs being an unknown is a big deal. I didn’t call it gigantic, but it’s worth a game off the line. We could easily go 11-6 next year. We went 4-2 in the division last year and our division is better and we may be worse. If we go 3-3 in our division, which is possible, that’s still 8-3 against everyone else. Edited March 28, 2023 by Locomark Quote
K D Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 Adding Dhop would instantly make us a 12 win team. Who disagrees? Quote
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