A players perspective on the Bengals game

[boyst]

History will record it as this...

 

We got Our asses kicked for.any reasons but in the grand scheme of things when we finally fire McChump we will  realize he squandered 3 rosters, had ***** execution and decisions.

 

He will coach again with a few years experience. He will rebuild lost franchise like Houston, Atlanta, or New England. He will get credit for it. But he won't bust the hump here or do so easily unless he can practice what he preaches. He's not accountable. He's a chump.

[MJS]

1 hour ago, mrags said:

So…. The players had no fire and no urgency in the game at all. The coaches apparently didn’t notice this like some of the players did and did nothing about it. I understand the players need to play the game. But when things like this happen on a grand scale, when it’s not just one player, it’s a coaching issue. At the very least the coaches needed to rein it in and change something. 

Here we have a player saying it was the players' fault and not the fault of coaches or decision making, and you find a way to turn that around on the coaches.

 

There's literally nothing you could hear or see that would change your mind, is there?

1 hour ago, JohnNord said:

But I was told the loss was “100% on coaching” by multiple members of this forum.  

Hilariously, they are using this as evidence for that, even though the exact opposite is being said.

[mrags]

3 minutes ago, MJS said:

Here we have a player saying it was the players' fault and not the fault of coaches or decision making, and you find a way to turn that around on the coaches.

 

There's literally nothing you could hear or see that would change your mind, is there?

Hilariously, they are using this as evidence for that, even though the exact opposite is being said.

The players of course will stick of for their coaches or other players. 
 

regardless, if it is the players playing flat, it’s the coaches responsibility to change that. McDermott is a great rah-rah guy. Why couldn’t he get his team up for the biggest game of their lives. 

[Gugny]

They weren't prepared.  They didn't want to be there.  They didn't want to play.  I'd have rather seen them forfeit than sit through watching them barely go through the motions.

 

The better coached, better prepared team won.

 

Par for the course in the Bills' postseason ventures, unfortunately.

 

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

The Bills were a good regular season team that didn’t have a next step for for the playoffs. Hell they nearly blew Miami wildcard game at home against their third string QB because of an epic late second quarter 3 phase collapse. They gave Miami 4 scores in the 7 minutes around halftime. It was ominous indication of what’s to come 

[Beck Water]

22 minutes ago, Iverwig said:

It was obvious the team was emotionally spent. We can blame coaching but at some point the players need take responsibility.  It is vital to have leadership from a couple of players on the field and on that day we just didn’t have it. 

 

So Ty Dunne makes a point that Taiwan Jones is a Captain on the team and a glue guy or "heartbeat" who guys look to.  And Taiwan Jones makes a point "I try not to yell at people or get on players about bad plays too much".  Jones is still a free agent as of this point.

 

Ty Dunne has made points in the past that McKenzie is the longest-tenured WR on the team.  McKenzie was the one who spoke to the WR huddle before each game this year and was left to be a spokesman in the locker room after the loss.  McKenzie is a Colt as of this point.

 

Maybe if the problem was bad play and players not playing with a sense of urgency, part of the solution is having different player leaders who are willing to be more vocal on the field and in the locker room when they need to be. 

Edited March 22, 2023 by Beck Water

[Real McClappy]

Players and the coaching staff were prob spent as a whole. 

 

1st round bye is like a NFL cheat code. 

 

 

[Franco_92]

21 minutes ago, boyst said:

History will record it as this...

 

We got Our asses kicked for.any reasons but in the grand scheme of things when we finally fire McChump we will  realize he squandered 3 rosters, had ***** execution and decisions.

 

He will coach again with a few years experience. He will rebuild lost franchise like Houston, Atlanta, or New England. He will get credit for it. But he won't bust the hump here or do so easily unless he can practice what he preaches. He's not accountable. He's a chump.

It's hit a point where this sort of wailing is becoming so obnoxious that I am going to save every single post I see and, when we win the super bowl, create a thread for each poster where we all go in and make fun of the garbage they spewed with such assurance, a sort of internet-forum tarring and feathering. 

[Malazan]

So the players feel like they didn't show up.. what are they doing about it? 

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, Nextmanup said:

Yep, and yet look at the reactions people give you.  LOL

 

We straight up got our butts kicked up an down the lineup on both sides of the ball and were thoroughly out-schemed and out-coached in the game.

 

Other than that, we almost had 'em!

 

If you look at the ignorance that fills this world, we should be thankful when people disagree with us. Fools in disagreement are still fools.

[boyst]

13 minutes ago, arcane said:

It's hit a point where this sort of wailing is becoming so obnoxious that I am going to save every single post I see and, when we win the super bowl, create a thread for each poster where we all go in and make fun of the garbage they spewed with such assurance, a sort of internet-forum tarring and feathering. 

Bring it on. McDermott is a loser for this organization as it is structured now.

 

We missed our biggest window with the best talent this roster has had in decades. It will be nearly impossible to match the quality of the roster we had in '20 and '21.  We had no business pretending we were good in '22 for a number of reasons but McChump built a soft team. 

[NoSaint]

2 hours ago, Magox said:

Sort of goes against the grain of the mainstream thinking.

 

 

 

I think it’s pretty mainstream that the team was completely flat and out of gas. There have been thousands of posts about hitting the wall after all the adversity of the season 

[boyst]

12 minutes ago, Malazan said:

So the players feel like they didn't show up.. what are they doing about it? 

Well, McDermott didn't hold himself or the other coaches accountable for KC... so why would the players if they didn't do it for themselves either? 

Just now, NoSaint said:

 

I think it’s pretty mainstream that the team was completely flat and out of gas. There have been thousands of posts about hitting the wall after all the adversity of the season 

And there have been thosudans of posts like mine by more than just me wondering why McDermott couldn't coach his team up when it mattered most to give at least a modicum of effort against the Bengals. 

[Magox]

2 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

 

I think it’s pretty mainstream that the team was completely flat and out of gas. There have been thousands of posts about hitting the wall after all the adversity of the season 

There has been more posts about the fault landing squarely on the coaches fault.

 

So yes, it is in contrast to the prevailing thought in this message board.

 

 

I believe on that day it was a failure on coaching and players.

[Billl]

51 minutes ago, Snappysnackcakes said:

So, after this game, our DC semi-retires. Then, our HC comes out and says that he wants to be the DC and that it will be more of an attacking style of defense. Frazier lost the last couple playoff games. Period. Nobody wants to talk about it, but that is what happened. Sure, the HC takes the ultimate blame. But our DEFENSIVE failures cost us our last two playoff games by being too damned soft; once in the last 13 seconds and one for almost an entire game. Leslie is a nice guy, but the blank stares on the sidelines do not exactly exude confidence in me. I mean, WE talk about it, but Taiwan ain’t exactly keepin it real by not specifically discussing this fact. Playing prevent defense in Q1 while already down multiple scores is just about stupid. He schitt the bed. Now, a player needs to speak the damn truth. “Man, we had some real bad situational defense calls in that game.” That’s what I want to read. 

How was it a defensive failure when the offense scored 10 points?  Before the game, if someone said that the Bengals would score 27 points, you might not have been excited about it, but you still would have felt like you had a reasonable shot at winning.  If you were told only that the Bills would score 10 points, you’d have known the game was a lost cause.

[Don Otreply]

2 hours ago, Einstein said:

Excuses.

 

We lost because the Bengals are the better team right now. From coaches to players.

You are wrong as usual, it’s wasn’t the players, it was the coaches not putting the players in position to be successful, that is pretty damn obvious from the get go in both Bengals games. 

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, Success said:

 

Did you just compare this Bengals team to Mike Tyson?

 

Sorry - they were not "well on their way" to blowing us out before the injury in the regular season game.  We were 9 minutes in, and both teams had a drive where they went down the field pretty easily.

 

I'd understand if someone thought that if they had just started watching the NFL that week.  Otherwise, no.

 

 

[DrDawkinstein]

32 minutes ago, Malazan said:

So the players feel like they didn't show up.. what are they doing about it? 

 

When it happens in the season, you can rally. Have a players-only meeting. Take the team on a field trip. Make a cardboard cutout of your owner naked, and take off post-it notes for every win. Whatever.

 

Unfortunately, when it happens in the playoffs, all you can do is find your reset button in the offseason and move on to next year.

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

It is long been one of my theories that the team just wasn’t ready to continue playing after what happened with the Hamlin thing

 

The problem is, it’s not provable, so the only thing to do is just to move on from it new season arriving

I know it was a novel event but also at some point it maybe shouldn’t totally derail a team? I really don’t know. 
 

Given the hindsight of damar potentially coming back to play next year it makes me wonder about other possible paths through the situation. 
 

I’ll never say that they got it wrong, but I do wonder about how other approaches could’ve played out. ie what if they quickly pushed into win for Damar instead of sitting in the space they did. 

[teef]

This ***** place…