The Walls be Closing

[ChiGoose]

2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Were you wrong about when the IC / media censored the Hunter laptop story?

 

Just a media mistake, right?

 

Please quote me on what I said that was wrong.

[Tommy Callahan]

33 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

The impeachments resulted in straight party-line votes in the Senate. It was clearly a political process (and yes, that's what the constitution created), so saying suggesting that the fact that he wasn't ultimately impeached" and removed from office (or rendered ineligible to run again) is hardly the same thing as a finding that he was not guilty. In fact, some of the arguments his attorneys made were that even if his behavior was arguably criminal, it didn't rise to the constitutional definition of "high crimes and misdemeanors."

So pointing to the political results of the impeachments as some kind of evidence that the charges were bogus is ridiculous. 

The Republican House brought impeachment articles against Bill Clinton. The Senate did not vote to impeach. That certainly doesn't mean that there is a judicial finding that Bill Clinton did not lie under oath. He did. He was guilty, but not impeached in the political process in the Senate.

Yes.  Bill was acquitted.  So legally, not guilty. 

[ChiGoose]

2 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Yes.  Bill was acquitted.  So legally, not guilty. 

 

...that's not how impeachments work...

 

It's not a legal determination, it's a political one. That's also why double jeopardy doesn't attach.

[Tommy Callahan]

On Article One, 45 senators voted to convict while 55 voted for acquittal. On Article Two, 50 senators voted to convict while 50 voted for acquittal. Clinton remained in office for the remainder of his second term.

 

Here is wa po arguing your narrative helps trump. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/12/14/impeachment-is-law-saying-political-process-only-helps-trumps-narrative/

 

Right from Google.  

Edited September 6, 2023 by Chris farley

[Kemp]

12 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

On Article One, 45 senators voted to convict while 55 voted for acquittal. On Article Two, 50 senators voted to convict while 50 voted for acquittal. Clinton remained in office for the remainder of his second term.

 

Here is wa po arguing your narrative helps trump. 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/12/14/impeachment-is-law-saying-political-process-only-helps-trumps-narrative/

 

Right from Google.  

 

Also, why does Saudi Arabia want Trump to win?

Please add that to my as yet answered question to you about Russia.

[BillsFanNC]

5 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

Please quote me on what I said that was wrong.

 

 

 

 

The media got the story wrong

 

- The King

 

it takes an extraordinary level of useful idiocy to distill the story down to oh well, they just ***** up.

 

So lets recap:

 

1. The FBI went to social media companies in the weeks before the laptop story broke, warning them to be on the lookout for false election season stories. Per Zuckerberg. 

 

2. Lo and behold a  damaging Biden story does surface from the NY Post about the laptop containing incriminating details about Joe Biden.

 

3. 51 former IC sign their names to a memo stating that the story could be Russian disinformation, even though in that VERY SAME memo they also clearly state that they have NO EVIDENCE that it's Russian disinformation. The memo, we now know was orchestrated by Blinken.

 

4. Starting with Politico, the media at large reports that the story IS russian disinformation despite the memo saying they have no evidence to support it. Journalism 101 students would get an F for a "mistake" this egregious.

 

5. Social media brute censors the NY Post story. Even shutting down the NY Post Twitter account for a time. Censoring a news outlet about a story that was easily verifiable at the time by any honest and competent journalist. As American as apple pie and baseball, right?

 

6. Yet the vast majority of the media from NPR, the networks and CNN just regurgitated the false claim that the story came from Russians.

 

But sure, the media just all got it wrong, in unison, with a "mistake" that would flunk each and every one of these media activists from journalism 101.

 

Extraordinary useful idiocy. But that's why you're the King.

 

 

[Kemp]

2 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

 

 

 

The media got the story wrong

 

- The King

 

it takes an extraordinary level of useful idiocy to distill the story down to oh well, they just ***** up.

 

So lets recap:

 

1. The FBI went to social media companies in the weeks before the laptop story broke, warning them to be on the lookout for false election season stories. Per Zuckerberg. 

 

2. Lo and behold a  damaging Biden story does surface from the NY Post about the laptop containing incriminating details about Joe Biden.

 

3. 51 former IC sign their names to a memo stating that the story could be Russian disinformation, even though in that VERY SAME memo they also clearly state that they have NO EVIDENCE that it's Russian disinformation. The memo, we now know was orchestrated by Blinken.

 

4. Starting with Politico, the media at large reports that the story IS russian disinformation despite the memo saying they have no evidence to support it. Journalism 101 students would get an F for a "mistake" this egregious.

 

5. Social media brute censors the NY Post story. Even shutting down the NY Post Twitter account for a time. Censoring a news outlet about a story that was easily verifiable at the time by any honest and competent journalist. As American as apple pie and baseball, right?

 

6. Yet the vast majority of the media from NPR, the networks and CNN just regurgitated the false claim that the story came from Russians.

 

But sure, the media just all got it wrong, in unison, with a "mistake" that would flunk each and every one of these media activists from journalism 101.

 

Extraordinary useful idiocy. But that's why you're the King.

 

 

 

Why do you believe Russia and Saudi Arabia want Trump back in office?

[Tommy Callahan]

Oh look.  A shady pac suing to get trump off the ballot

Actual election interference.  

 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/group-sues-block-trump-2024-ballot-citing-14th/story?id=102964534&cid=social_twitter_abcn

Lawsuit funded by the usual lefty billionaires 

 

https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/citizens-for-responsibility-and-ethics-in-washington/

 

@ChiGoose

@Kemp

 

Edited September 6, 2023 by Chris farley

[49er Fan]

34 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

 

 

 

Censoring a news outlet about a story that was easily verifiable at the time by any honest and competent journalist. 

 

 

 

What a laughable statement - over a year after first learning of the laptop, the FBI still hadn’t validated every file on it.  It also took actual newspapers like the WaPo and the NYT over a year to verify any of its contents.  Fox News / NYP doesn’t have anyone on staff able to do that.

[Tommy Callahan]

1 minute ago, 49er Fan said:

What a laughable statement - over a year after first learning of the laptop, the FBI still hadn’t validated every file on it.  It also took actual newspapers like the WaPo and the NYT over a year to verify any of its contents.  Fox News / NYP doesn’t have anyone on staff able to do that.

Lol, you quoted nyt and wa po as anything more than a partisan rag.  And why 

 

 

Edited September 6, 2023 by Chris farley

[ChiGoose]

2 minutes ago, 49er Fan said:

What a laughable statement - over a year after first learning of the laptop, the FBI still hadn’t validated every file on it.  It also took actual newspapers like the WaPo and the NYT over a year to verify any of its contents.  Fox News / NYP doesn’t have anyone on staff able to do that.

 

It's a matter of difference of opinion on what is more likely:

 

A sinister cabal involving every major media outlet, most of the government and who else knows how many people is secretly working behind the scenes against conservatives or shady seeming stuff being peddled by known liars and grifters seemed like something not worth trusting right out of the bat.

[Tommy Callahan]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

 

It's a matter of difference of opinion on what is more likely:

 

A sinister cabal involving every major media outlet, most of the government and who else knows how many people is secretly working behind the scenes against conservatives or shady seeming stuff being peddled by known liars and grifters seemed like something not worth trusting right out of the bat.

Sounds like a conspiracy that has some legs as they are mostly owned by the same groups that are on the receiving end of the state stimy 

 

You see the shady Dem pac suing to keep trump off the ballot?  

 

And this isn't the Lincoln project thread.  If talking shady grifters. 

 

 

Edited September 6, 2023 by Chris farley

[ChiGoose]

1 minute ago, Chris farley said:

Sounds like a conspiracy that has some legs as they are mostly owned by the same groups that are on the receiving end of the state stimy 

 

You see the shady Dem pac suing to keep trump off the ballot?  

 

And this isn't the Lincoln project thread.  If talking shady grifters. 

 

 

 

It would be impossible to keep a conspiracy that large secret. It's just far more likely that people were skeptical of trusting someone like Rudy who is a known liar and fraud.

 

I've already mentioned that I am skeptical of the 14th Amendment ploy.

 

The Lincoln Project is also made of grifters. Not sure why you're bringing them up here though.

[Tommy Callahan]

1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:

 

It would be impossible to keep a conspiracy that large secret. It's just far more likely that people were skeptical of trusting someone like Rudy who is a known liar and fraud.

 

I've already mentioned that I am skeptical of the 14th Amendment ploy.

 

The Lincoln Project is also made of grifters. Not sure why you're bringing them up here though.

Of course.  No way can any of us point to a narrative that was 💯 supported by politicians and media.  And the bill had been written months/years before.  

 

And never mind they are owned by the same companies profiting from this administrations insane spending. 

 

It's all just causation.  Doesn't equate to coordination. 

[BillsFanNC]

17 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:

 

It's a matter of difference of opinion on what is more likely:

 

A sinister cabal involving every major media outlet, most of the government and who else knows how many people is secretly working behind the scenes against conservatives or shady seeming stuff being peddled by known liars and grifters seemed like something not worth trusting right out of the bat.

 

Again, square the following King...

 

From the IC memo.

 

We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal a orney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement -- just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case.

 

With the subsequent reporting that nearly ALL the media regurgitated:

 

Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276

 

From we have no evidence that the Russians were involved...to every major news outlet reporting that the laptop IS russian disinformation....and all the censorship and account banning that followed.

 

It doesn't take a cabal, just activists posing as journalists and useful idiots like you.

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

The King goes silent!

 

Gee. I wonder why?

 

A useful idiot hack.

[BillStime]

26 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

 

Again, square the following King...

 

From the IC memo.

 

We want to emphasize that we do not know if the emails, provided to the New York Post by President Trump’s personal a orney Rudy Giuliani, are genuine or not and that we do not have evidence of Russian involvement -- just that our experience makes us deeply suspicious that the Russian government played a significant role in this case.

 

With the subsequent reporting that nearly ALL the media regurgitated:

 

Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276

 

From we have no evidence that the Russians were involved...to every major news outlet reporting that the laptop IS russian disinformation....and all the censorship and account banning that followed.

 

It doesn't take a cabal, just activists posing as journalists and useful idiots like you.

 

 

What’s the latest on this front? 
 

Got any links from 2023?

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

16 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

The King goes silent!

 

Gee. I wonder why?

 

A useful idiot hack.

it went silent but an even more moronic poster decided to reply and prove how slow it is.

 

 

[Tiberius]

 

[Tommy Callahan]

8 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

it went silent but an even more moronic poster decided to reply and prove how slow it is.

 

 

And in an ironic twist, the birds are still silent, but another winner showed with an even more pathetic source.