Doc Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 37 minutes ago, Andy1 said: Weak. Most Dems would love to vote for an option other than old Joe but Joe is the only choice we got. Biden is about the least radical choice there is in the Democratic Party. Democratic Party is also not a cult, following one person with flags, hats and shirts. Joe's not the only choice you have. 1
Kemp Posted September 1, 2023 Author Posted September 1, 2023 1 minute ago, Doc said: Joe's not the only choice you have. Who? Better to have an old man than an old man who tried and is still trying to overthrow the government. 4 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Fairly significant downward departure from the guidelines and what the government was seeking. Guy is very lucky. But, but, he was just a tourist.
Doc Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kemp said: Who? Better to have an old man than an old man who tried and is still trying to overthrow the government. Not really. The point being we'd like to see other options but we'll still vote for who gets nominated. Edited September 1, 2023 by Doc 1
Westside Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 On 8/28/2023 at 9:57 AM, Joe Ferguson forever said: I'll say it again Farley. People who cheat at golf, cheat at life. They also lessen a great but frustrating, difficult game... Seems like helmet head is the preferred con hairstyle right now. totally appropriate. It’s a fact that people who lie constantly are not people who should be in charge of anything. Joke biden is the poster boy for pathological liars. 1 1
Doc Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, Westside said: It’s a fact that people who lie constantly are not people who should be in charge of anything. Joke biden is the poster boy for pathological liars. You see, they don't think he lies. Or it's that he doesn't lie as much as Trump does so it's OK. Both are delusional. 2
sherpa Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 33 minutes ago, Andy1 said: I remember republicans saying Hillary was unfit to run and on her death bed when she had pneumonia. Biden's problems are far more serious than pneumonia. The man is divorced from reality, and every week provides more evidence of this. 2
Tiberius Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, sherpa said: Biden's problems are far more serious than pneumonia. The man is divorced from reality, and every week provides more evidence of this. What evidence?
Westside Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Doc said: You see, they don't think he lies. Or it's that he doesn't lie as much as Trump does so it's OK. Both are delusional. The guy lies about how his own son died!! How much of a dirtbag is he? 1
sherpa Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Tiberius said: What evidence? His claim that he almost lost his wife, cat and Corvette in a housefire. Totally false. The details of a claim of a friendship and conversations with an Amtrak conductor. Totally false. The claim that he convinced Strom Thurmond to vote for the Civil Rights Act when he was 21. Totally false. The claim that his grandfather died in the same hospital weeks before he was born. Totally false. His claim of securing a Purple Heart for his Uncle Frank while Vice President. Probably false. I am not going to do a review of his plagiarism, which got him exposed during a failed attempt to run for president in 1988, or his ridiculously false claims about his academic record. The man has been lying and self aggrandizing for decades, and as his cognitive ability is in obvious decline, he simply has lost contact with reality. Late edit. I forgot to add his lying claim that he was not presented with an option from SecDef and Chairman JCS to leave a 2000 person contingent to protect the disgraceful evacuation of Afghanistan. He was, and he lied about it. Edited September 1, 2023 by sherpa 2
49er Fan Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: Most Dems would probably prefer somebody else run. But because we have a two-party first-past-the-post system, nobody is going to want to challenge an incumbent in the primaries. So Biden is the only realistic option. Sucks, but it is what it is. I have no problem admitting that Biden is getting conspicuously too old to serve another term. But there is also no reason for Democrats to immediately put forth a successor - or even worry about it - until next summer. The Republican party is in utter shambles because it’s being held hostage by Trump. How can anyone possibly reconcile the fact that Trump is polling around 50% in the GOP primary while facing 91 felony indictments? It’s the most laughable thing I’ve ever seen in my life. The only two Republicans that are even willing to call this out are Christie and Hutchinson. Even Liz Cheney, someone who voted with Trump over 90% of the time while serving as a Congresswoman, lost her WY seat and was completely ostracized from the party for daring to call Trump out on his misdeeds - and this was before any actual legal exposure. 2 2
49er Fan Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, sherpa said: His claim that he almost lost his wife, cat and Corvette in a housefire. Totally false. The details of a claim of a friendship and conversations with an Amtrak conductor. Totally false. The claim that he convinced Strom Thurmond to vote for the Civil Rights Act when he was 21. Totally false. The claim that his grandfather died in the same hospital weeks before he was born. Totally false. His claim of securing a Purple Heart for his Uncle Frank while Vice President. Probably false. I am not going to do a review of his plagiarism, which got him exposed during a failed attempt to run for president in 1988, or his ridiculously false claims about his academic record. The man has been lying and self aggrandizing for decades, and as his cognitive ability is in obvious decline, he simply has lost contact with reality. Late edit. I forgot to add his lying claim that he was not presented with an option from DecDef and Chairman JCS to leave a 2000 person contingent to protect the disgraceful evacuation of Afghanistan. He was, and he lied about it. The difference between Trump the scumbag liar and Biden is that Biden’s “lies” as you put them, are harmless. He embellishes personal stories or is forgetful. And he actually tries to do the right thing with regard to governance. He is not attacking anyone and everyone who disagrees with him or rage-tweeting with 16-year-old girls in the middle of the night. 2 1 1
Kemp Posted September 1, 2023 Author Posted September 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, sherpa said: His claim that he almost lost his wife, cat and Corvette in a housefire. Totally false. The details of a claim of a friendship and conversations with an Amtrak conductor. Totally false. The claim that he convinced Strom Thurmond to vote for the Civil Rights Act when he was 21. Totally false. The claim that his grandfather died in the same hospital weeks before he was born. Totally false. His claim of securing a Purple Heart for his Uncle Frank while Vice President. Probably false. I am not going to do a review of his plagiarism, which got him exposed during a failed attempt to run for president in 1988, or his ridiculously false claims about his academic record. The man has been lying and self aggrandizing for decades, and as his cognitive ability is in obvious decline, he simply has lost contact with reality. There was a fire in his house that damaged his kitchen, caused by a lightning strike. Might be an exaggeration. The second one is a lie. The third one is a lie. The fourth one is a lie. The fifth one has some lies in it. Here are two links to some of Trump's lies (over 30,000 of them) https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?itid=lk_inline_manual_11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump ALL politicians lie sometimes. Biden's lies were of no consequence to any of our lives. Trump has uttered multiple lies repeatedly that have greatly damaged the country and continue to do so. By far the worst one is his lie that the election was stolen from him. This has fractured America to a place not seen in over 150 years. That's at the heart of why some of his supporters have ended up in prison and why more will continue to be imprisoned. Those who aligned themselves with Trump's biggest lie will learn what every person who puts it on the line for him learn. That he couldn't care less what happens to these people or anyone else. 1 1
sherpa Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, Kemp said: There was a fire in his house that damaged his kitchen, caused by a lightning strike. Might be an exaggeration. The second one is a lie. The third one is a lie. The fourth one is a lie. The fifth one has some lies in it. Here are two links to some of Trump's lies (over 30,000 of them) https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/politics/trump-claims-database/?itid=lk_inline_manual_11 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump ALL politicians lie sometimes. Biden's lies were of no consequence to any of our lives. Trump has uttered multiple lies repeatedly that have greatly damaged the country and continue to do so. By far the worst one is his lie that the election was stolen from him. This has fractured America to a place not seen in over 150 years. That's at the heart of why some of his supporters have ended up in prison and why more will continue to be imprisoned. Those who aligned themselves with Trump's biggest lie will learn what every person who puts it on the line for him learn. That he couldn't care less what happens to these people or anyone else. I hate to quote such a lengthy post to make such a simple point but......I don't give a rat's about Trump, and he has nothing to do with Biden's obvious, repeated separation from reality. His extremely minor kitchen fire, was which in no conceivable way nearly resulted in a loss of his wife cat or Corvette, in no human way comes close to what happened to the people he was addressing in Maui. 1
Tommy Callahan Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 I have no problem admitting that Biden is getting conspicuously too old to serve another term. But there is also no reason for Democrats to immediately put forth a successor - or even worry about it - until next summer. The Republican party is in utter shambles because it’s being held hostage by Trump We get it. the left loves the establishment GOP. they both feed from the same trough and represent the same groups. But trumps platform, has the support of whoever takes it and is believable. The status quo is failing the majority of US. 2
49er Fan Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 40 minutes ago, Chris farley said: The status quo is failing the majority of US. Since when do Republicans care about the “majority of [the] U.S.? What happened to the “pull yourself up by your bootstraps”mantra?” Or, to quote Mr. French in The Departed, “This is America! If you can’t make money, you’re a douchebag!”
Tommy Callahan Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 Just now, 49er Fan said: Since when do Republicans care about the “majority of [the] U.S.? What happened to the “pull yourself up by your bootstraps”mantra?” Or, to quote Mr. French in The Departed, “This is America! If you can’t make money, you’re a douchebag!” there you are again confusing republicans with people that don't agree with the corporatism we currently have.
49er Fan Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chris farley said: there you are again confusing republicans with people that don't agree with the corporatism we currently have. Oh, ok. But the fact that millions of Americans being drawn to the “evangelical” label because of its association with the G.O.P. is better?
sherpa Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 Because I was only referring to recent lies, I didn't mention his grossly fabricated academic record. Three undergraduate degrees and finishing in the top half of his graduating law school class. Lied about his families history in the coal mines. His "great honor of being arrested on the streets of Soweto with our UN Ambassador trying to see Nelson Mandela." Lied about visiting Afghanistan to visit a "Naval Officer," which is my favorite because it is so bizarre. https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-tells-poignant-story-about-his-encounter-hank-berrien
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, sherpa said: Because I was only referring to recent lies, I didn't mention his grossly fabricated academic record. Three undergraduate degrees and finishing in the top half of his graduating law school class. Lied about his families history in the coal mines. His "great honor of being arrested on the streets of Soweto with our UN Ambassador trying to see Nelson Mandela." Lied about visiting Afghanistan to visit a "Naval Officer," which is my favorite because it is so bizarre. https://www.dailywire.com/news/biden-tells-poignant-story-about-his-encounter-hank-berrien https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/jan/13/joe-biden/evidence-scant-joe-biden-was-arrested-protesting-c/ Left off an oldie but goodie.
Tiberius Posted September 1, 2023 Posted September 1, 2023 2 hours ago, sherpa said: His claim that he almost lost his wife, cat and Corvette in a housefire. Totally false. The details of a claim of a friendship and conversations with an Amtrak conductor. Totally false. The claim that he convinced Strom Thurmond to vote for the Civil Rights Act when he was 21. Totally false. The claim that his grandfather died in the same hospital weeks before he was born. Totally false. His claim of securing a Purple Heart for his Uncle Frank while Vice President. Probably false. I am not going to do a review of his plagiarism, which got him exposed during a failed attempt to run for president in 1988, or his ridiculously false claims about his academic record. The man has been lying and self aggrandizing for decades, and as his cognitive ability is in obvious decline, he simply has lost contact with reality. Late edit. I forgot to add his lying claim that he was not presented with an option from SecDef and Chairman JCS to leave a 2000 person contingent to protect the disgraceful evacuation of Afghanistan. He was, and he lied about it. Fine. Not good. But we can agree none of those BS stories rise anywhere near the level of the lies surrounding the 2020 election Trump told that led to violence at the capital, right? We can agree on that, right?
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