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Sooo, no evidence.   Got it.  Just the usual making stuff up.  

Sometimes I think it's attempted trolling.

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I've got to laugh at the "evidence" ploy.  But I'm not making anything up.  For the unfamiliar its called reasoning and my reasoning is Trump would have continued the administration's policy and Biden's would not have been implemented.  That seems like a reasonable conclusion.  

 

But put your money on the Washington establishment.  But be warned, its a losing bet.  They've bungled every foreign adventure for the past 25 years and there's no reason to expect anything different.  They're well on their way to screwing this up too.

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Is that a reference to the day the Mueller report came out and had nothing?

 

 

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That’s how many days Trump was in office. It’s not like Putin didn’t have plenty of time to attack during any one of those 1,460 days. Nope….he waited until the incredibly weak Joe Biden sat behind the desk. Like everything else, this is NOT complicated. 

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  On 3/29/2023 at 12:50 PM, Kemp said:

Strawmen?

 

Multiple Trump employees found guilty for interactions with Russia.

Coincidences all?

BTW, do you agree with your beloved Trump that those that attacked the Capitol are heroes?
 

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Interactions with Russia don't even come close to being "collusion."  Collusion is having a disgraced British spy get lies from Russians and pass it off as legit intel in order to take down a President.

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  On 3/29/2023 at 1:26 PM, All_Pro_Bills said:

I've got to laugh at the "evidence" ploy.  But I'm not making anything up.  For the unfamiliar its called reasoning and my reasoning is Trump would have continued the administration's policy and Biden's would not have been implemented.  That seems like a reasonable conclusion.  

 

But put your money on the Washington establishment.  But be warned, its a losing bet.  They've bungled every foreign adventure for the past 25 years and there's no reason to expect anything different.  They're well on their way to screwing this up too.

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There are still facts and your reasoning is often not based on fact.

 

The assumption that if Trump were elected Russia would not have invaded Ukraine is pure fantasy. 

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That’s how many days Trump was in office. It’s not like Putin didn’t have plenty of time to attack during any one of those 1,460 days. Nope….he waited until the incredibly weak Joe Biden sat behind the desk. Like everything else, this is NOT complicated. 

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Biden is weak.  Trump showed nothing to indicate he was going to be stronger.  Zero.  And he has much less respect on the international stage, which absolutely matters.  The world laughed at him.

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  On 3/29/2023 at 2:59 PM, L Ron Burgundy said:

There are still facts and your reasoning is often not based on fact.

 

The assumption that if Trump were elected Russia would not have invaded Ukraine is pure fantasy. 

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Its well thought out reasoning supported by the conclusion that a policy which was in effect would continue.  What's your argument?  That regardless of who won Putin would have attacked?  How is that any better? 

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Its well thought out reasoning supported by the conclusion that a policy which was in effect would continue.  What's your argument?  That regardless of who won Putin would have attacked?  How is that any better? 

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  On 3/29/2023 at 2:59 PM, L Ron Burgundy said:

There are still facts and your reasoning is often not based on fact.

 

The assumption that if Trump were elected Russia would not have invaded Ukraine is pure fantasy. 

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The invasion was in 2014.  The escalation was with Biden. Why no escalation between those times?  

 

 

 

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The invasion was in 2014.  The escalation was with Biden. Why no escalation between those times?  

 

 

 

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People that directly or indirectly support an ideology and political view that accepts the concept that a man can be a woman simply by believing they're a woman demanding and accepting only "fact" based arguments.  No self-awareness.

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  On 3/29/2023 at 3:36 PM, All_Pro_Bills said:

People that directly or indirectly support an ideology and political view that accepts the concept that a man can be a woman simply by believing they're a woman demanding and accepting only "fact" based arguments.  No self-awareness.

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I must have missed something in translation.

 

 

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Interactions with Russia don't even come close to being "collusion."  Collusion is having a disgraced British spy get lies from Russians and pass it off as legit intel in order to take down a President.

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Collusion is having your  drug addict, deadbeat dad son get million $ payouts from Ukraine and the CCP and giving you a cut.

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The invasion was in 2014.  The escalation was with Biden. Why no escalation between those times?  

 

 

 

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You think they made the decision to go all out war based on our president?  That's absurd. Our political situation is but one factor in the equation.   They thought they were either going to roll over Ukraine or be welcomed.  To think Putin would have changed his mind because of that orange twaat is beyond laughable.   

 

Stop tanning your nads it's somehow making your brains soft.

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Collusion is having your  drug addict, deadbeat dad son get million $ payouts from Ukraine and the CCP and giving you a cut.

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Stop that's all just another nothing burger!

 

Except if Hunter was Eric or Don Jr. in which case the orange man would be already locked up.

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  On 3/29/2023 at 4:44 PM, L Ron Burgundy said:

You think they made the decision to go all out war based on our president?  That's absurd. Our political situation is but one factor in the equation.   They thought they were either going to roll over Ukraine or be welcomed.  To think Putin would have changed his mind because of that orange twaat is beyond laughable.   

 

Stop tanning your nads it's somehow making your brains soft.

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Obviously.  Why do nothing when Trump, his alleged puppet, was in office and it would have been easier?

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  On 3/29/2023 at 4:54 PM, Doc said:

 

Obviously.  Why do nothing when Trump, his alleged puppet, was in office and it would have been easier?

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Not everything is about us.  It's a crazy concept I know.  US response was 1 of many factors that went into their escalation.  I'm sorry but those Trump Rambo posters are fake.  This idea that Trump is tough is a laughable facade.

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Not everything is about us.  It's a crazy concept I know.  US response was 1 of many factors that went into their escalation.  I'm sorry but those Trump Rambo posters are fake.  This idea that Trump is tough is a laughable facade.

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You're not making your point here.  If Trump isn't so tough and again is a Putin puppet, why not invade while he was President and he would just let them do it?  Did the Nazis just start taking over the Ukraine after Trump left office or that after decades being independent Ukrainians suddenly wanted to become Russian again?  

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Not everything is about us.  It's a crazy concept I know.  US response was 1 of many factors that went into their escalation.  I'm sorry but those Trump Rambo posters are fake.  This idea that Trump is tough is a laughable facade.

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He's obviously tougher than biden lol. Trump had 4 years to deliver Ukraine on a platter to russia if he wanted to or was a Russian asset.......but it never happened. 

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