Kemp Posted August 2, 2023 Author Posted August 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Nice pivot. Haven't voted for Trump nor do I plan to. I've always felt he lacked moral character and he continues to confirm that. That doesn't mean the left has to be the alternative. Not by a long shot. In fact, this banana republic shyt Biden and the left are doing is the most shameful thing I've experienced in American politics. Pivot? I was replying to a srecific statement.
Pokebball Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 33 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: It would make sense that Florida would do better during the pandemic at academics nothing replaces in person, teaching, and Florida didn’t handle the pandemic, the same as other states did As a whole whenever you don’t include the once in a lifetime world virus, Florida does not do as well as these other states As a whole, Florida actually does OK. But they're in the top five in almost every category of the standardized test scores today. And I think the "catch up" by others will take a decade. 10 minutes ago, BillStime said: Congress passes election reform designed to ward off another Jan. 6 Letting everything Trump did slide would be the most shameful thing in American politics and will only invite Trump and others like him to do the same. F that and your feelings Billsy and party over country! That's OK, you'll make that history curriculum across the country. 9 minutes ago, Kemp said: Pivot? I was replying to a srecific statement. Regarding Trump rallies
Tiberius Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, BillStime said: The free speech argument is dumber than the he really believed he won argument
John from Riverside Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 19 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Nice pivot. Haven't voted for Trump nor do I plan to. I've always felt he lacked moral character and he continues to confirm that. That doesn't mean the left has to be the alternative. Not by a long shot. In fact, this banana republic shyt Biden and the left are doing is the most shameful thing I've experienced in American politics. That’s fair enough I am totally guessing so don’t take this wrong, but are you more of a Tim Scott guy 1 minute ago, Tiberius said: The free speech argument is dumber than the he really believed he won argument The right takes that free speech thing, and wears is it like a cloak of protection?
BillStime Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, Pokebball said: Billsy and party over country! That's OK, you'll make that history curriculum across the country. Stop projecting
ChiGoose Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 10 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: The right takes that free speech thing, and wears is it like a cloak of protection? Well, it’s helpful if your base will believe any lie you tell them. Right off the bat, the indictment states that Trump isn’t being indicted for his speech but for his actions. You look at the statutes he allegedly violated and the facts being alleged, and it’s clearly not about speech. But feelings are more important than facts. 4 1
Pokebball Posted August 2, 2023 Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: That’s fair enough I am totally guessing so don’t take this wrong, but are you more of a Tim Scott guy I have two concerns when determining who I'm going to support. Policy and personal character. I'll give up some of one of these for the other. I do reach a floor on personal character sooner. For the first time in my life I didn't cast a vote for POTUS in 2016. I felt strongly that Clinton had little to no moral or ethical character. I wasn't sure about Trump but didn't have a good feeling. In 2020 I knew I wasn't going to vote for Trump and felt I could vote for Biden if he selected a strong VP (frankly, I was concerned about his health). Kamala killed any chance of that consideration. So I passed in 2020 as well. You asked about Tim Scott. Scott is further to the right than I am but he seems to be a stand up guy. So I would consider him. I haven't written off any of the candidates on the right, at this time, with the exception of Trump. Tulsi's character impresses the shyt out of me. Her policy is pretty far the to the left, however. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat over Trump. 7 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: Well, it’s helpful if your base will believe any lie you tell them. Right off the bat, the indictment states that Trump isn’t being indicted for his speech but for his actions. You look at the statutes he allegedly violated and the facts being alleged, and it’s clearly not about speech. But feelings are more important than facts. You protect free speech, you protect lies. Lies are usually pretty easy to prove wrong.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) Lawyers, McCarthy or Tribe here? Will be the trial of the decade...I totally discount Turley cuz he's a shill. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/legal-experts-slam-jack-smith-lousy-case-trump-disinformation-indictment Edited August 3, 2023 by redtail hawk
ChiGoose Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Pokebball said: You protect free speech, you protect lies. Lies are usually pretty easy to prove wrong. We’ll I guess it’s good thing he isn’t being indicted for the lies he espouses, which have been proven wrong.
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 44 minutes ago, BillStime said: it'd been nice if he was ethical before his ex boss' prospects went south.
ChiGoose Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: it'd been nice if he was ethical before his ex boss' prospects went south. He was pretty run of the mill conservative in his first stint as AG. Big proponent of the unitary executive but that’s not that far out of the mainstream for conservatives. Edited August 3, 2023 by ChiGoose
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: He was pretty run of the mill conservative in his first stint as AG. Big proponent of the unitary executive but that’s not that out of the mainstream for conservatives. He publicly interpreted the Mueller report in an extremely biased manner, favoring his boss. Left out the whole Russian interference piece. Follow the motivation (money usually). Isn't that what lw enforcement investigators normally do. Btw, watching Fox for shites and giggles. Hunter, hunter, Hunter. No defense of trump charges. Very little discussion of the indictment. Host just said something like "trump being indicted for questioning the validity of the election" in passing. Talk about playbook. I wonder how many copies were sent. Edited August 3, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 1
John from Riverside Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 35 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: He publicly interpreted the Mueller report in an extremely biased manner, favoring his boss. Left out the whole Russian interference piece. Follow the motivation (money usually). Isn't that what lw enforcement investigators normally do. Btw, watching Fox for shites and giggles. Hunter, hunter, Hunter. No defense of trump charges. Very little discussion of the indictment. Host just said something like "trump being indicted for questioning the validity of the election" in passing. Talk about playbook. I wonder how many copies were sent. Fox knows that they have to be very careful $800 million doesn’t grow on trees 1
ChiGoose Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 42 minutes ago, redtail hawk said: He publicly interpreted the Mueller report in an extremely biased manner, favoring his boss. Left out the whole Russian interference piece. Follow the motivation (money usually). Isn't that what lw enforcement investigators normally do. I honestly believe that those lies were less about Trump and more about enshrining the unitary executive belief that the president is basically a king. The idea that the president is capable of committing crimes is laughable if you believe all power is vested in the president. 1 2
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I honestly believe that those lies were less about Trump and more about enshrining the unitary executive belief that the president is basically a king. The idea that the president is capable of committing crimes is laughable if you believe all power is vested in the president. He's still a fat ass shyster imo. 1
John from Riverside Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 2 hours ago, redtail hawk said: He's still a fat ass shyster imo. Agreed and all of the backtracking and things that he is saying about Trump now do not change the fact that he did what he did regarding the Mueller report. I will never forgive him for that. That is the definition of a useful idiot 1 1
Tommy Callahan Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) The cognitive dissonance going on in this thread, is off the charts. Edited August 3, 2023 by Chris farley 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Chris farley said: The cognitive dissidence going on in this thread, is off the charts. dissonance....sllllllow. a tension or clash resulting from the combination of two disharmonious or unsuitable elements. Edited August 3, 2023 by redtail hawk
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