The Walls be Closing

[Kemp]

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

Normies are the vast majority of the public that don’t pay much attention to politics until it directly starts to affect them. 

 

Similar to NIMBYS.

1 hour ago, SCBills said:

Explain. 
 

Because I’m guessing you’re going to say something, something, Trump supporters … even though most right leaning people on the OT Board don’t want Trump to be the Republican nominee. 

 

No way to determine if that's accurate, but we do know that most of you will vote for Trump.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

21 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

I called the national office of Rotary and they would like you to turn in your badge

If you feel that strongly, just go to the top.  The Rotary International prez this year is a retired Scottish Dentist who wants to concentrate efforts on mental health this year.  a friend went to the World Conference in Australian recently and met him.  Say's he's a super nice, energetic and passionate man.

[Kemp]

1 hour ago, Pokebball said:

I guess I don't see this characterization. He's really done a pretty good job in Florida. I think you're threatened by him

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4116913-covid-19-vaccine-politics-could-be-linked-to-excess-gop-deaths-in-ohio-florida-study/

After May 1, 2021, when vaccines were available to all adults, the excess death rate gap between Republican and Democratic voters widened to 7.7 percentage points — meaning the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43 percent higher than that among Democratic voters.

1 hour ago, Roundybout said:

I don’t recall the Kavinaugh protesters smashing barriers, killing Capitol security members, putting up a noose, or storming the offices looking for people to kill

 

Maybe the Deep State hid it from us.

[Pokebball]

1 minute ago, Kemp said:

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4116913-covid-19-vaccine-politics-could-be-linked-to-excess-gop-deaths-in-ohio-florida-study/

After May 1, 2021, when vaccines were available to all adults, the excess death rate gap between Republican and Democratic voters widened to 7.7 percentage points — meaning the excess death rate among Republican voters was 43 percent higher than that among Democratic voters.

The offset, of course, is the pro business successes and the educational successes that the schools in Florida will be ahead of many other states. That measure will be decades in the making.

[Kemp]

1 hour ago, Chris farley said:

No, you replied to my comment. 

 

I'm a realist so its moderates DEMS and they are hard to find anymore.  

 

Antiwar, Anti corporate funding of government, resect for our rights, looking out for the downtrodden, progressive tax structure, BC/Abortion.

 

but that was all before the modern left went nuts and started supporting.

 

Pro war, Pro corporate funding of government, attacking civil rights, supporting agencies spying on Americans. pandering to the groups that claim to help the downtrodden (PACS), aggressive and noncompetitive tax structure, BC/Abortion narrative became a free for all.

 

 

 

 

 

So, if you vote R, you're literally voting against everything you claim to be for.

Doesn't add up.

[Tiberius]

6 hours ago, Andy1 said:

We now have dozens and dozens of Trumpers, life long Republicans, who are on record testifying against Trump vs Republican politicians and media who will continue to push the false fantasies their supporters want to hear. I guess they are all still in the stage of denial at this point. Hopefully we see a trial before the election. 

Denial or do this just don't care how bad he is? They care nothing about the country 

[Roundybout]

47 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Cause unlike the modern bandwagon jumper that just wants to be on the winning team. I believe in holding them accountable.

 

But in ny that's a lost cause anymore.

 

 

Funny, I’m a registered R in NY for the same reason 

[Kemp]

56 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

The Wall Street Journal on the various indictments. I agree with this assessment:

 

"The first indictment in New York state by a partisan district attorney for paying hush money is a junk case. Mr. Smith’s previous indictment for mishandling classified documents is more serious and the evidence stronger. But this latest indictment goes to the core of American democracy and the transfer of power."

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-indictment-jack-smith-jan-6-2020-election-96a894f5?mod=hp_opin_pos_6#cxrecs_s

 

First year Criminal Law class I learned that there are various justifications for having such things as crimes and punishment. There's specific deterrence or incapacitation - the defendant murdered someone or defrauded someone or sexually assaulted someone, and we want to lock him up so he can't do it again. There's retribution - society's desire to express its collective outrage at anti-social behavior. And then there's general deterrence: if someone flouts our laws and norms and it goes unpunished, that will simply embolden other people to do the same thing themselves. 

 

It's mostly that last one that the Wall Street Journal is getting at. Trump himself, ever playing the victim, says it is all about getting even with him, or that it's about trying to eliminate him as the #1 rival to Biden in the 2024 election. But there's a larger point in this prosecution, the idea that Trump, aided by various unscrupulous lawyers concocting wild legal theories, and Trump (and a very few remaining sycophantic aides and supporters) cynically adopting those theories, aided by criminal tactics, all for the purpose of thwarting the rule of law and the legitimate outcome of the electoral college. Some of us still believe the peaceful and orderly transfer of power in America is something to celebrate, and that a criminal attempt to circumvent that does need to be prosecuted, and that announcing that you are running again for President shouldn't result in some kind of cloak of immunity around you.

 

This is a just and necessary prosecution.

 

Next they'll tell us that the Wall Street Journal has always been a liberal bastion.

50 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

You can’t possibly be this naive. Somebody says something on television for ONE REASON only. And that is get eyeballs on screens. The same is true for print media….to get eyeballs on clicks. Then after someone says something it prompts others to ‘quote’ so that they too can get…wait for it…eyeballs on screens. Make sense? 

 

There is one poster here who posts far more links to tweets than anyone else.

He's on the Trump bandwagon.

Perhaps you should tell him, too.

[The Frankish Reich]

2 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

Next they'll tell us that the Wall Street Journal has always been a liberal bastion.

Oh, that's already happened. I think they go with"deep state" rather than "commie" given the obviously capitalist leanings. But they don't seem terribly clear on the dividing line.

[Kemp]

7 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

The offset, of course, is the pro business successes and the educational successes that the schools in Florida will be ahead of many other states. That measure will be decades in the making.

 

Thinning the herd does eliminate some competition for jobs.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

10 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

Funny, I’m a registered R in NY for the same reason 

This is a great idea.  I think I'll register R and vote for desantis or really anyone but the mobster.

[Pokebball]

7 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

Thinning the herd does eliminate some competition for jobs.

so does illiteracy 

[SoCal Deek]

23 minutes ago, Kemp said:

 

Next they'll tell us that the Wall Street Journal has always been a liberal bastion.

 

There is one poster here who posts far more links to tweets than anyone else.

He's on the Trump bandwagon.

Perhaps you should tell him, too.

The same is true for EVERYONE Kemp and I think you’ll find I’m pretty consistent. 

[Wacka]

1 hour ago, redtail hawk said:

If you feel that strongly, just go to the top.  The Rotary International prez this year is a retired Scottish Dentist who wants to concentrate efforts on mental health this year.  a friend went to the World Conference in Australian recently and met him.  Say's he's a super nice, energetic and passionate man.

Mr. Snob looking down on us plebs

[49er Fan]

45 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

The offset, of course, is the pro business successes and the educational successes that the schools in Florida will be ahead of many other states. That measure will be decades in the making.

“Educational successes” - absolutely hilarious when you look at the lowest rated states for public education (AZ, LA, NV, NM, AL, SC, OK, NC, FL, TN).

 

Contrast that with the best states (NJ, NH, CT, VT, MA, NY, ME, CO, PA, VA) - see a pattern here with regard to recent general election results?  
 

Florida is leading the charge in denigrating LBGTQ awareness, banning books, and the most recent and appalling development of plans to teach that enslaved people *benefited* from slavery.

 

Pathetic.

[B-Man]

2 minutes ago, 49er Fan said:

 

Florida is leading the charge in denigrating LBGTQ awareness, banning books, and the most recent and appalling development of plans to teach that enslaved people *benefited* from slavery.

 

Pathetic.

 

 

And there it is folks.

 

The proof that our new posting friend does not read anything but the approved leftist handbook.

 

Welcome aboard.

[Kemp]

Boris Epshteyn is #6?

53 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

so does illiteracy 

 

There's lots of that at Trump rallies.

[Pokebball]

25 minutes ago, 49er Fan said:

“Educational successes” - absolutely hilarious when you look at the lowest rated states for public education (AZ, LA, NV, NM, AL, SC, OK, NC, FL, TN).

 

Contrast that with the best states (NJ, NH, CT, VT, MA, NY, ME, CO, PA, VA) - see a pattern here with regard to recent general election results?  
 

Florida is leading the charge in denigrating LBGTQ awareness, banning books, and the most recent and appalling development of plans to teach that enslaved people *benefited* from slavery.

 

Pathetic.

Specifically, aren't we talking about the impact during the pandemic? At least I was.

 

https://www.chalkbeat.org/2023/5/12/23721806/learning-loss-pandemic-community-district-student-homes-harvard-stanford-johns-hopkins-dartmouth#:~:text=The team found that student,higher death rates from COVID.

 

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-pandemic-has-had-devastating-impacts-on-learning-what-will-it-take-to-help-students-catch-up/

 

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/30/health/covid-learning-loss-study-wellness/index.html

 

This link specifically notes how Florida did better than its' peers in the pandemic loss - https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/10/24/national-assessment-of-educational-progress-florida-hillsborough-pinellas-pasco-addison-davis-kevin-hendrick-scores/

 

 

 

10 minutes ago, Kemp said:

Boris Epshteyn is #6?

 

There's lots of that at Trump rallies. 

I've never been. I'll have to trust your experience

Edited August 2, 2023 by Pokebball

[Joe Ferguson forever]

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

 

And there it is folks.

 

The proof that our new posting friend does not read anything but the approved leftist handbook.

 

Welcome aboard.

Seems articulate with well considered thought.  Yup, right out of our playbook..pp148-201.

[BillStime]

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