The Walls be Closing

[Tommy Callahan]

4 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

I don’t recall the Kavinaugh protesters smashing barriers, killing Capitol security members, putting up a noose, or storming the offices looking for people to kill

A Kav protester tried to assassinate him and other justices.  just saying

 

 

[BillsFanNC]

Hey @Roundybout says thats different!

 

how shocking.

 

 

And regurgitating the outright lie that Capitol police officers were killed on J6. How very useful idiot of you roundy!

 

The only people who died at the Capitol on J6 were protestors.

 

Period.

 

 

Edited August 2, 2023 by BillsFanNC

[BillStime]

20 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

What about the Kavanaugh nomination hearings?

What about it?

 

FBI Admits It Got 4,500 Tips on Brett Kavanaugh—Then Punted Them to Trump Team

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

41 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I was responding to SC but really?  A dem??? What D planks do you agree with?????  Do tell...

No, you replied to my comment. 

 

I'm a realist so its moderates DEMS and they are hard to find anymore.  

 

Antiwar, Anti corporate funding of government, resect for our rights, looking out for the downtrodden, progressive tax structure, BC/Abortion.

 

but that was all before the modern left went nuts and started supporting.

 

Pro war, Pro corporate funding of government, attacking civil rights, supporting agencies spying on Americans. pandering to the groups that claim to help the downtrodden (PACS), aggressive and noncompetitive tax structure, BC/Abortion narrative became a free for all.

 

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Hey @Roundybout says thats different!

 

how shocking.

 

 

And regurgitating the outright lie that Capitol police officers were killed on J6. How very useful idiot of you roundy!

 

The only people who died at the Capitol on J6 were protestors.

 

Period.

 

 

Even if any of us accepts that (and I don't) the protesters should never have been there threatening congress people, a VP and law enforcement.  Agree or not?

Just now, Chris farley said:

No, you replied to my comment. 

 

I'm a realist so its moderates DEMS and they are hard to find anymore.  

 

Antiwar, Anti corporate funding of government, resect for our rights, looking out for the downtrodden, progressive tax structure, BC/Abortion.

 

but that was all before the modern left went nuts and started supporting.

 

Pro war, Pro corporate funding of government, attacking civil rights, supporting agencies spying on Americans. pandering to the groups that claim to help the downtrodden (PACS), aggressive and noncompetitive tax structure, BC/Abortion narrative became a free for all.

 

 

 

 

admirable but false.

[Tommy Callahan]

2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

admirable but false.

coming from you, that makes it fact.

 

as you only spew BS while attacking the truth.

 

its kind of your schtick.

 

 

[Pokebball]

13 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

We add one test to the standard Rotary four way test at our club:

1  Is it the truth?

2.  Is it fair to all concerned?

3. Will it build goodwill and better friendships?

4.  Will it be beneficial to all?

and our addition  "Will it be FUN"?

 

admittedly, I have some problems meeting the ideals of #3 around here but it's good to have lofty goals.

Then again, Bill Gates partners with Rotary to eradicate worldwide polio, so y'all will likely disagree.

 

So, regarding #1, link me to your support that that DeSantis is in the mob. Dang man, you didn't even get past step 1

[The Frankish Reich]

The Wall Street Journal on the various indictments. I agree with this assessment:

 

"The first indictment in New York state by a partisan district attorney for paying hush money is a junk case. Mr. Smith’s previous indictment for mishandling classified documents is more serious and the evidence stronger. But this latest indictment goes to the core of American democracy and the transfer of power."

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-indictment-jack-smith-jan-6-2020-election-96a894f5?mod=hp_opin_pos_6#cxrecs_s

 

First year Criminal Law class I learned that there are various justifications for having such things as crimes and punishment. There's specific deterrence or incapacitation - the defendant murdered someone or defrauded someone or sexually assaulted someone, and we want to lock him up so he can't do it again. There's retribution - society's desire to express its collective outrage at anti-social behavior. And then there's general deterrence: if someone flouts our laws and norms and it goes unpunished, that will simply embolden other people to do the same thing themselves. 

 

It's mostly that last one that the Wall Street Journal is getting at. Trump himself, ever playing the victim, says it is all about getting even with him, or that it's about trying to eliminate him as the #1 rival to Biden in the 2024 election. But there's a larger point in this prosecution, the idea that Trump, aided by various unscrupulous lawyers concocting wild legal theories, and Trump (and a very few remaining sycophantic aides and supporters) cynically adopting those theories, aided by criminal tactics, all for the purpose of thwarting the rule of law and the legitimate outcome of the electoral college. Some of us still believe the peaceful and orderly transfer of power in America is something to celebrate, and that a criminal attempt to circumvent that does need to be prosecuted, and that announcing that you are running again for President shouldn't result in some kind of cloak of immunity around you.

 

This is a just and necessary prosecution.

[Joe Ferguson forever]

5 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

coming from you, that makes it fact.

 

as you only spew BS while attacking the truth.

 

its kind of your schtick.

 

 

So, not admirable...

If uninterested feel free to ignore but some important MAGA info here.  So saddle need to ask these questions

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/01/politics/president-serve-vote-indictment-trump-2020-election/index.html

3 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

So, regarding #1, link me to your support that that DeSantis is in the mob. Dang man, you didn't even get past step 1

I asked if he was a mobster and mentioned he might look good in a zoot suit.  What is false?

See, D's can play this game too.  Many of us learn quickly...Germ warfare?

Edited August 2, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Tommy Callahan]

3 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

So, not admirable...

If uninterested feel free to ignore but some important MAGA info here.  So saddle need to ask these questions

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/01/politics/president-serve-vote-indictment-trump-2020-election/index.html

I asked if he was a mobster and mentioned he might look good in a zoot suit.  What is false?

See, D's can play this game too

 

there is nothing about the DEM agenda thats admirable. 

 

on any level.

 

 

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

 

there is nothing about the DEM agenda thats admirable. 

 

on any level.

 

 

 

 

Yet you are a registered D...so slooooooow

this is why we will win.

Edited August 2, 2023 by redtail hawk

[SoCal Deek]

20 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

We add one test to the standard Rotary four way test at our club:

1  Is it the truth?

2.  Is it fair to all concerned?

3. Will it build goodwill and better friendships?

4.  Will it be beneficial to all?

and our addition  "Will it be FUN"?

 

admittedly, I have some problems meeting the ideals of #3 around here but it's good to have lofty goals.

Then again, Bill Gates partners with Rotary to eradicate worldwide polio, so y'all will likely disagree.

 

You can’t possibly be this naive. Somebody says something on television for ONE REASON only. And that is get eyeballs on screens. The same is true for print media….to get eyeballs on clicks. Then after someone says something it prompts others to ‘quote’ so that they too can get…wait for it…eyeballs on screens. Make sense? 

[Tommy Callahan]

1 minute ago, redtail hawk said:

Yet you are a registered D...so slooooooow

Cause unlike the modern bandwagon jumper that just wants to be on the winning team. I believe in holding them accountable.

 

But in ny that's a lost cause anymore.

 

 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

You can’t possibly be this naive. Somebody says something on television for ONE REASON only. And that is get eyeballs on screens. The same is true for print media….to get eyeballs on clicks. Then after someone says something it prompts others to ‘quote’ so that they too can get…wait for it…eyeballs on screens. Make sense? 

You seem so cynical that you believe that no one could do or say anything just because they feel it's extremely important or are passionate about it or even that they love the role of journalist (or any job, for that matter).  Now that is sad.

2 minutes ago, Chris farley said:

Cause unlike the modern bandwagon jumper that just wants to be on the winning team. I believe in holding them accountable.

 

But in ny that's a lost cause anymore.

 

 

so do you attend D meetings and make your opinion known?

Edited August 2, 2023 by redtail hawk

[Pokebball]

14 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

I asked if he was a mobster and mentioned he might look good in a zoot suit.  What is false?

See, D's can play this game too.  Many of us learn quickly...Germ warfare?

I called the national office of Rotary and they would like you to turn in your badge

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

You seem so cynical that you believe that no one could do or say anything just because they feel it's extremely important or are passionate about it or even that they love the role of journalist (or any job, for that matter).  Now that is sad.

 

On the contrary, I’m a realist and I’m truly stunned that someone of your seniority and apparent intellect can’t understand that you’re being toyed with by these folks. When their work day is over they’re going to soccer practice! They’re not trying to save the planet. And when your heroes in EITHER party are done, they’re going out to dinner at restaurants you could never afford, paid for by donors and lobbyists that would make your skin crawl.
 

Sorry to break it to you. 

[Joe Ferguson forever]

6 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

On the contrary, I’m a realist and I’m truly stunned that someone of your seniority and apparent intellect can’t understand that you’re being toyed with by these folks. When their work day is over they’re going to soccer practice! They’re not trying to save the planet. And when your heroes in EITHER party are done, they’re going out to dinner at restaurants you could never afford, paid for by donors and lobbyists that would make your skin crawl.
 

Sorry to break it to you. 

going to soccer games and expensive dinners does not exclude loving your job and being passionate.  For most, those probably add to their happiness with their jobs and lives.

[49er Fan]

40 minutes ago, Roundybout said:

I don’t recall the Kavinaugh protesters smashing barriers, killing Capitol security members, putting up a noose, or storming the offices looking for people to kill

I also don’t recall Pelosi or anyone else conspiring to falsify the Senators’ SCOTUS confirmation votes. And for the record, hundreds of people were arrested during those hearings for unlawfully protesting.

[Kemp]

57 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

@49er Fan

 

What about the Kavanaugh nomination hearings?

 

Official proceeding or nah?

 

Should Nancy Pelosi be in jail for encouraging the obstruction?

 

Let me guess.

 

That's different. 

 

 

 

Supreme Court nominee Merrick Garland says hi.

[SoCal Deek]

6 minutes ago, redtail hawk said:

going to soccer games and expensive dinners does not exclude loving your job and being passionate.  For most, those probably add to their happiness with their jobs and lives.

Not the point Hawk. My assessment of your intelligence is dropping like a rock. 😉