BillStime Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 6:50 PM, SoCal Deek said: Was it illegal…nope! Expand Now tell us about the will of the people in those states where Trump conspired and orchestrated fake electors. Was it legal?
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 7:01 PM, SoCal Deek said: Come on Hawk. This is politics, not medicine or architecture. If you haven’t figured it out by now BOTH SIDES use everything at their disposal to get to the results they want…until the vote comes down…and then they all go out together to a really expensive dinner at our expense. Expand ah, that's your point....moral relativism. We should start a new thread to discuss that concept.
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 6:59 PM, SectionC3 said: So what I draw from this is that you believe the fake elector scheme to be consistent with the constitution and ergo perfectly legal. Sick. Expand For heaven’s sakes…drop the talking points! You honestly believe they were going to have FAKE electors and nobody would say anything? How gullible are you people? Please tell me you don’t drive. 🙄 1 2
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 7:02 PM, redtail hawk said: ah, that's your point....moral relativism. We should start a new thread to discuss that concept. Expand This isn’t morality! It’s politics. Please tell me you know the difference….please.
49er Fan Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) On 8/3/2023 at 7:05 PM, SoCal Deek said: For heaven’s sakes…drop the talking points! You honestly believe they were going to have FAKE electors and nobody would say anything? How gullible are you people? Please tell me you don’t drive. 🙄 Expand That’s just one of the evidentiary materials in furtherance of the conspiracy to defraud the U.S. and conspiracy against rights charges. Doesn’t matter if it didn’t “work.” Read up on the laws - they are: 18 U.S.C. § 1512(c), 18 U.S.C. § 1512(k), 18 U.S.C. § 371, 18 U.S.C. § 241. Edited August 3, 2023 by 49er Fan 1
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 7:20 PM, 49er Fan said: That’s just one of evidentiary materials in furtherance of the conspiracy to defraud the U.S. and conspiracy against rights charges. Doesn’t matter if it didn’t “work.” Read up on the laws - they are: 18 U.S.C. § 1512(c), 18 U.S.C. § 1512(k), 18 U.S.C. § 371, 18 U.S.C. § 241. Expand So you too believe that they chose to do the things you cite here? Wonderful…so Trump is still President then. PS: Why is a Niners fan in a Buffalo Bills message board? 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 (edited) On 8/3/2023 at 7:16 PM, SoCal Deek said: This isn’t morality! It’s politics. Please tell me you know the difference….please. Expand This is not just politics. This is conspiracy to obstruct justice and to deny valid voters their votes (Did you notice that most of the contested areas have high minority percentages?). The R's have made a concerted and somewhat effective effort aimed at disenfranchising black voters. Do you support this? I know some here will. This is a criminal and coordinated attack on the American election system. And it could have worked. To say otherwise is unpatriotic an unAmerican. These acts are unprecedented in US history. And you try to compare them to the ACA. Hopeless.... Edited August 3, 2023 by redtail hawk 1 1
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 7:58 PM, redtail hawk said: This is not just politics. This is conspiracy to obstruct justice and to deny valid voters their votes (Did you notice that most of the contested areas have high minority percentages?). The R's have made a concerted and somewhat effective effort aimed at disenfranchising black voters. Do you support this? I know some here will. This is a criminal and coordinated attack on the American election system. And it could have worked. To say otherwise is unpatriotic an unAmerican. These acts are unprecedented in US history. And you try to compare them to the ACA. Hopeless.... Expand the shark has been jumped GET OVER YOURSELF I don’t like the way this conversation is going so let’s play the race card! Unbelievable 1 1
TH3 Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 7:05 PM, SoCal Deek said: For heaven’s sakes…drop the talking points! You honestly believe they were going to have FAKE electors and nobody would say anything? How gullible are you people? Please tell me you don’t drive. 🙄 Expand DT thought it would work 1
JDHillFan Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 8:04 PM, SoCal Deek said: the shark has been jumped GET OVER YOURSELF I don’t like the way this conversation is going so let’s play the race card! Unbelievable Expand If anyone on this board knows about race it’s the one guy that uses racial slurs, defends his own use of them, and cheers on others when they start throwing the slurs in his stead. Who you ask? racisthawk is your man. 1 1
TH3 Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 7:16 PM, SoCal Deek said: This isn’t morality! It’s politics. Please tell me you know the difference….please. MAGA IN A NUTSHELL Expand 1
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 8:18 PM, JDHillFan said: If anyone on this board knows about race it’s the one guy that uses racial slurs, defends his own use of them, and cheers on others when they start throwing the slurs in his stead. Who you ask? racisthawk is your man. Expand And yet when a Lilly white State like Massachusetts votes specifically to send a Senator to Washington to kill Obamacare, and Congress goes around their vote through a little used parliamentary process, that’s not disenfranchisement….it’s something else entirely. Or whatever 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 8:04 PM, SoCal Deek said: I don’t like the way this conversation is going Expand Of course you don't. You don't have a leg to stand on 1
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 8:22 PM, redtail hawk said: Of course you don't. You don't have a leg to stand on Expand I hope you know that I don’t mind the mental sparring one bit Hawk. But I’m begging you to think twice before you start tossing the race card out there. That’s really not necessary. 1
Joe Ferguson forever Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 8:21 PM, SoCal Deek said: And yet when a Lilly white State like Massachusetts votes specifically to send a Senator to Washington to kill Obamacare, and Congress goes around their vote through a little used parliamentary process, that’s not disenfranchisement….it’s something else entirely. Or whatever Expand See. was that so difficult. I can see why you didn't want to make the argument. It's terrible. Passing obamacare and trying to subvert our election process are like a new york penn league game compared to the MLB world series 1
SoCal Deek Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 8:26 PM, redtail hawk said: See. was that so difficult. I can see why you didn't want to make the argument. It's terrible. Passing obamacare and trying to subvert our election process are like a new york penn league game compared to the MLB world series Expand That’s exactly my point! Nobody is trying to ‘subvert’ anything! Not on either side. They’re just focused on advancing their political agenda by any means they can justify to themselves. Where we differ is that you’ve come to the ridiculous conclusion that one side of the aisle is good, and the other is bad. Professional and personal experience has shown me that there are no such absolutes in the field of politics.
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 8:30 PM, SoCal Deek said: That’s exactly my point! Nobody is trying to ‘subvert’ anything! Not on either side. They’re just focused on advancing their political agenda by any means they can justify to themselves. Where we differ is that you’ve come to the ridiculous conclusion that one side of the aisle is good, and the other is bad. Professional and personal experience has shown me that there are no such absolutes in the field of politics. Expand Well you are wrong, it is possible and true. Trump is a criminal and The GOP loves him for it 1
All_Pro_Bills Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 8:44 PM, BillStime said: “Only the best people” Expand So what's Smith's legal argument. Trump knew he lost the election but pretended not to know in order to continue pressing his view the election was stolen?
Trump_is_Mentally_fit Posted August 3, 2023 Posted August 3, 2023 On 8/3/2023 at 8:52 PM, All_Pro_Bills said: So what's Smith's legal argument. Trump knew he lost the election but pretended not to know in order to continue pressing his view the election was stolen? Expand To stir up a riot, that’s why the lying is important. It fueled the violence and obstructed a government function
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