Bills sign Damien Harris

[Locomark]

4 hours ago, HOUSE said:

He doesn't even look like Derrick  Henry

Right, he wont need $20 million to get 1000 yards…and won’t be making a first round playoff exit. 😀

Edited March 21, 2023 by Locomark

[Haslett_Stomp]

3 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

I think Harris is a more consistent chain mover. YPC might be the same, but my memories of Singletary are me getting excited after an early 20+ yard run and then a long string of relative ineffectiveness 

 

and a fumble...

[BillsShredder83]

Watching his 2021 highlights. Downhill heavy runner lol tacklers bounce off him. I like the pickup with managed expectations. Luckily we just needed a lil more juice, and he's a good fit.

 

Get to bills v pats it was either sun or Monday, must've been that windy game, gawd dangggggg did he trample us. Still infuriating lol

[DrDawkinstein]

Patriots fans are not happy about this at all. Good taste in the comments here. Love to see it.

 

 

[Locomark]

All we need from Harris is to run in Buffalo like he ran in Buffalo for the Pats. I like his style for this offense but I don’t remember much about his pass blocking. 

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

3 hours ago, AlCowlingsTaxiService said:

I think Harris is a more consistent chain mover. YPC might be the same, but my memories of Singletary are me getting excited after an early 20+ yard run and then a long string of relative ineffectiveness 

 

 Harris in his career has averaged a 1st down once every 4.15 carries, Singletary once every 4.12 carries.

 

 

 

[RocCityRoller]

8 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

min not going to sit here and start listing names. I’m just going to say they need to do better around Allen doing whatever it takes. 
 

as to the last paragraph I don’t think they make the team better. They make it the same. The same isn’t good enough. Like maybe the guard they got is slightly better. Maybe they did slightly better than McKenzie as well. We aren’t slightly better away from a SB like the last two years anymore though. 
 

however I will add that I think obj or Hopkins would instantly be the second best receiver on the team even past their prime. I wouldnt break bank for em but they would still be big upgrades. A big upgrade is what the team needs. Not just lateral wash moves. 

Last year I wanted Bradberry and Reddick so badly it hurt.

Bradberry was the obvious CB to fill in for White, and we knew the HC and GM, nope.

Reddick was a terrific pass rusher looking for a home, young and cheap, from Carolina, nope.

 

We got washed up Von Miller instead.

I hoped for the best. I knew what to expect.

Both of the the guys I wanted played in the Super Bowl for Philly instead.

They could be under contract today if we went younger and cheaper than Von Miller.

The Carolina and NYG connections both failed, when Buffalo needed both of them.

 

I wanted McAffery when he became available

Clearly ours, 670k and a Carolina connection. Nope. We got Hines.

At least Hines gave us some cheers on ST. Really amazing ones TBH.

Would have rather had McCaffery though.

 

TSW was convinced he was washed up and 'too expensive', despite how many of us showed he literally cost 670k for 2022

and how he could be extended or traded for picks this draft.

He ended up having a pretty good season with SF, despite 'Mr Irrelevant' playing QB, and signed a team friendly deal...

Could have been in Buffalo with Allen, but nope, despite the Carolina connection.

 

Beane 'knew better' in all those situations where he had contacts....

2022 presented Reddick/ McCaffrey and Bradberry to Buffalo with connections and they failed on all of them.

I get it. We fu&k up every opportunity. After that I started to question Beane a lot.

 

But this offseason is real dog crap.

The time for Mack/ Jones/ Von Miller was 2-3 years ago on Allen's rookie contract in 2019-2021.

 

At least Beane is not making the OBJ/ D Hop and Zeke deals today, a year or two too late to matter or try to save face.

All of these above guys are done.

 

I wanted Creed Humphrey instead of Basham.

Imagine this team with Humphrey/ Bradberry/ Reddick and McAffrey under contract....

That is my team. But it is what it is. Do better going forward. I've moved on.

 

I wanted one of the RT and Okerkerke (LB Indy) this offseason if Edmunds moved on.

I got neither again.

Poyer will be a stud S.

I do think a few of the offensive guys will exceed their minimal expectations this season.

McGovern/ Sherfield/ Harris will provide some pop and size, and play well.

Nope they aren't 'studs', but provide upside in a very weak offensive FA period.

 

So you have no names, no magic hat of players in this FA period.

Neither do I. That is because this FA period stinks, and there are few to none.

I'm happy Buffalo can't be dumb with money this offseason.

 

Other than Poyer all of the FA money this year has gone to offense.

OG/ WR/ WR/ RB

 

Who should Beane have signed???

Should he just make up FA to sign here like in Madden?!?

Last year was the chance to build a juggernaut and he failed.

 

I agree the Harty signing was idiotic. Another really dumb move.

The other WR should have gotten 2-3 years IMO.

I think he could surprise as a WR3/ WR4.

 

As for WR, let me repeat it again:

OBJ and D-Hop are not improvements over Davis in 2023. PERIOD.

 

This absurd dislike of Davis really is a TSW specialty, and I'll continue to fight it.

Yards and TDs win games. Look at the facts.

If your argument is 'those guys were injured' that may not be a strong argument in your favor.

 

Let's look at these 'studs' Beane 'refuses to get':

 

OBJ:

2021: 82 TARGETS/ 44 RECEPTIONS/ 53.7%/ 537 YARDS/ 12.2 YPC/ 5 TDS

2022; 0 TARGETS/ 0 RECEPTIONS / 0% / 0 YARDS / 0 TDS

 

OBJ has not had an above 55.6% catch rate since 2018, but people want to talk crap about Davis' sub 60% rate.

 

The last season OBJ was productive was 2018. 2018 was pre-pandemic my man.

Dude is washed. You will be lucky to get Emmanual Sanders 2021 season from him.

(PS Manny Sanders had a 58.3% reception rate in 2021)

 

D Hopkins:

Another 2018 PRO-BOWL TSW REGULAR:

2021: 64 TARGETS/ 42 RECEPTIONS/ 65.6%/ 572 YARDS/ 13.6 YPC/ 8 TDS

2022: 96 TARGETS/ 64 RECEPTIONS/ 66.7%/ 717 YARDS/ 11.2 YPC/ 3 TDS

D-Hop became 2020 Cole Beasley in 2022.

 

This is your solution to the #2???

At least J Brown and E Sanders could stretch a field for half a season each before collapsing.

D Hop can't get off the couch to change the channel if the batteries go bad.... it's laughable.

 

Fun Fact, D Hop was a below 60% catch WR his first 5 seasons.

He was considered a stretch WR to Andre Johnson's possession skills.

Sound familiar? It should. How many of you knew that?

 

D Hop was Gabe Davis before Gabe Davis.

Now many of you want old expensive Gabe Davis to replace young cheap Gabe Davis......

D-Hop is a vaxx refusal and season away from being 2021 Cole Beasley.

 

D-Hop is washed too.

 

Gabe Davis:

A 4th round pick in his second and third season, only one starting....

2021: 63 TARGETS/ 35 RECEPTIONS/ 55.6%/ 549 YARDS/ 15.7 YPC/ 6 TDS

2022: 93 TARGETS/ 48 RECEPTIONS/ 51.6%/ 846 YARDS/ 17.4 YPC/ 7 TDS

 

LAST TWO YEARS:

OBJ:       44 REC/   82 TARG / 53.7%/ 537 YARDS/ 12.2 AVG/  5 TDs  - wants $14 million

DHOP:  106 REC/ 160 TARG/ 66.2%/ 1289 YARDS/ 12.1 AVG/   11 TD  - 2nd round pick?

DAVIS:   83 REC/ 156 TARG/ 53.2%/ 1395 YARDS/ 16.8 AVG/  13 TD  - on a rookie contract...

 

Really? OBJ is a bum. D Hop is Cole Beasley at his best now.

 

Years 1-3:

DHOP: 239 REC/ 410 TAR/ 58.3%/ 3533 YARDS/ 14.8/ 19 TDS

DAVIS: 118 REC/ 218 TAR/  54.1%/ 1984 YARDS/ 16.8/ 20 TDS

 

Its just a matter of volume yrs 1-3. Very similar catch %, Davis has YPC and TDS over DHOP despite being targeted only 53% of the time.

D HOP has catches and yards on 2x the targets.

 

This does NOT include playoffs....

 

 

[Chandler#81]

4 hours ago, Mark92 said:

Love this move.  Harris is a steal this late in FA.  He's exactly the player Beane said they were looking for.  Now let's bring in a Veteran LB and head to the Draft.  

Okereke (sp?) from Indy. Problem solved.

[Chandler#81]

4 hours ago, ScottLaw said:

Outside of QB the entire offense is pretty mediocre.

Often, your sharp football acumen is hidden under an avalanche of snark. Sometimes, you’re simply foolish. Mediocre? Meaning 16 NFL teams wouldn’t start them? You’re applying this to Stephon Diggs, Dawkins, Knox, Morse and Davis? They sit on 16 teams??

 

YEEESH!🤦‍♂️

[BillsFanForever19]

43 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

Last year I wanted Bradberry and Reddick so badly it hurt.

Bradberry was the obvious CB to fill in for White, and we knew the HC and GM, nope.

Reddick was a terrific pass rusher looking for a home, young and cheap, from Carolina, nope.

 

We got washed up Von Miller instead.

 

This is where I stopped reading.

[BillsFanForever19]

1 hour ago, Chandler#81 said:

Okereke (sp?) from Indy. Problem solved.

 

He already signed with the Giants.

[Milanos Milano]

Good under the radar signing. Runs hard. 

[billsfan89]

3 hours ago, Norcalbillsfan said:

Only FA prediction I got right so far with the bills. Beane loves players that torch the bills, when healthy hes excellent in pass pro, solid down hill runner. Really it all comes down to health, if he can get on the feild and stay there it could be a home run for the bills. 

Seems like the team hopes Harris being a backup to Cook or at least splitting carries with Cook will keep him healthy. 

[Doc Brown]

6 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

Seems like the team hopes Harris being a backup to Cook or at least splitting carries with Cook will keep him healthy. 

The Patriots hoped that with Stephenson.  It's a small risk and it's why I don't think this signing means Beane won't rule out Beane drafting a RB as early as the 3rd round given this is just a one year commitment with Harris. 

[John from Riverside]

7 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

The Patriots hoped that with Stephenson.  It's a small risk and it's why I don't think this signing means Beane won't rule out Beane drafting a RB as early as the 3rd round given this is just a one year commitment with Harris. 

I don’t think we’ll see a running back now until the later rounds
 

It’s OK we’ve got holes to fill

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

8 hours ago, McBean said:

Eliminate holes on offense to draft all defense with premium picks.

Most likely. Dumpster dive FA on offense, ignore it before round 3 in the draft 

[BillsFanForever19]

2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Most likely. Dumpster dive FA on offense, ignore it before round 3 in the draft 

 

Are you seriously calling Damien Harris a dumpster dive acquisition? C'mon.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

6 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Are you seriously calling Damien Harris a dumpster dive acquisition? C'mon.

Dude is broken 

[Kirby Jackson]

5 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

More likely that they do not value the position in the first round. I hope that is the case. They just used a second-round pick on James Cook last year. Would be moronic to use a first-round pick on a RB the very next year. 

I think that Bijan is a can’t miss star. I think that the Bills were really high on him. This draft just lacks top end talent so he will go earlier than expected. He’s a top 5 player in this class. I think that they, and everyone else, loves the player. 

[eball]

9 hours ago, McBean said:

Eliminate holes on offense to draft all defense with premium picks.

 

9 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

That’s what I’m afraid of.

 

I hear you…but look at what our defense has done in the last three playoff losses (KC/KC/CIN).  They haven’t just been bad, they’ve been TERRIBLE.  Anyone who doesn’t think the Bills need to continue to look for difference-makers on defense is kidding himself.

 

That said…I do believe that a focus on making the offense better (protecting Josh and giving him weapons) is priority #1.  Signing Harris and Sherfield and the OG do that.  It doesn’t mean they won’t go offense with one of their first two picks.