What would you trade for Jerry Jeudy?

[Buffalo03]

3 minutes ago, 1ManRaid said:

 

Being from the wrong side of the border, I can only offer a Canadian minute.  Worth about 45 American seconds.

Is that the exchange rate these days?

[cle23]

5 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

Both were first round picks and have 5th year options so, yes, both were controllable for 5 seasons. Oliver is on his 5th year option now. Jeudy has his next season. 

 

They were controllable for 5 years when they were drafted,  yes,  but not at this point. 

[Dr. Who]

3 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

They were controllable for 5 years when they were drafted,  yes,  but not at this point. 

Isn't that the point of the quote you are responding to? The relative lack of control in both cases is part of the equation when speculating trade value.

[Thurman#1]

8 hours ago, Warcodered said:

It's nice that Ed Oliver took the baton from Edmunds of TBD whipping boy.

 

 

There always has to be one. If not more.

 

That's how some people roll.

[transplantbillsfan]

Can't this thread just be merged with the other Jeudy one?

 

But yes. Clearly you do it

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

9 hours ago, RocCityRoller said:

What do you say TBD?

I would do it in a NY Minute

All day, every day and three times on Sunday 

[newcam2012]

I'm not too interested in Juedy. The WR I want is Dhop. The guy is elite and is a difference maker. 

 

Twitter people are saying Ariz wants a 2nd round pick and something else of value. Not sure what that means.

 

I am really hoping the Bills can pull the trigger and get Dhop. What does everyone else think? 

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

If Denver were dumb enough to do this trade I would do it in a second!

[Simon Says]

9 hours ago, RocCityRoller said:

he is a rookie on a $10m contract this year as a rookie.

None of his salary is guaranteed.

 

Trade him or resign him for how much???

Wrong again.  Once the option is ,exercised, salary becomes guaranteed.

[Zerovoltz]

As a long time member of a Broncos board.  I ASSURE you, NO ONE over there would think this was a good deal.  I GUARANTEE you guys, Ed Oliver isn't even on the radar in Denver as someone they'd even consider trading anything for let alone Jerry Juedy.  

[cle23]

2 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

Isn't that the point of the quote you are responding to? The relative lack of control in both cases is part of the equation when speculating trade value.

 

The original post I responded to said that they were both controllable for 5 years.  And they're not.  Not anymore, and Oliver is only 1 year. So his value isn't much.  At least Jeudy is 2 years. 

[ProcessTruster]

12 hours ago, RocCityRoller said:

Denver has asked for a kings ransom for Jerry Jeudy. How much would Bills fans trade for him?

I'm ready to play it back with the guys we have now.   Put Harty in the slot and off we go.   Fix the O line 

[Dr. Who]

21 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

The original post I responded to said that they were both controllable for 5 years.  And they're not.  Not anymore, and Oliver is only 1 year. So his value isn't much.  At least Jeudy is 2 years. 

Well, the pull quote was from Barley which states "Both were first round picks and have 5th year options so, yes, both were controllable for 5 seasons. Oliver is on his 5th year option now. Jeudy has his next season." That flat out states that Oliver is in his last year of the five, Jeudy in his fourth. If you were referencing an earlier statement, naturally, there may be confusion on the issue, but not in the direct quote that I saw you interacting with.

[balln]

35 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

As a long time member of a Broncos board.  I ASSURE you, NO ONE over there would think this was a good deal.  I GUARANTEE you guys, Ed Oliver isn't even on the radar in Denver as someone they'd even consider trading anything for let alone Jerry Juedy.  

Exactly. Oliver is so mediocre. This premise is so dumb. End thread 

[DJB]

Like I’ve been saying for 3 years. Oliver sucks 

[balln]

3 minutes ago, DJB said:

Like I’ve been saying for 3 years. Oliver sucks 

Ditto. Like a record. 
 

he has one good game a year. Where he’s disruptive the whole game. 
 

chris jones is like that EVERY game! 
 

what a bust at #9 overall 

[Thurman#1]

19 minutes ago, balln said:

Exactly. Oliver is so mediocre. This premise is so dumb. End thread 

 

 

Oh, nonsense.

 

He's not mediocre. He's good. Not as good as his draft pick would have you hoping he would be, but good. He's probably one of the five or six best guys on the team. 

 

He's not consistent. That's very true, and I'd certainly like to see that change. We'd all like him to be better. But he's disruptive. A lot.

 

Replacing Ed at DT wouldn't be nearly as easy as people think. DT salaries are going up, and fast.

 

We're entering an era where DLs, including DTs, are going to start making serious money. Look at the contract Dre'Mont Jones just got.

 

If we could replace him easily, I wouldn't mind trading him now, as it's the best time economically. But he wouldn't be nearly as easy to replace as many here think. We'd be creating yet another hole in a year when we couldn't replace him. Doesn't make sense.

 

And that's on top of the fact that I don't really trust Jeudy all that much. I expect them to just draft a WR instead.

 

Edited March 18, 2023 by Thurman#1

[Zerovoltz]

I want to clarify.....when I say the Denver folks woulnd't be interested.....it's not because any of them have some strong opinion about Oliver....he's on the last year of a contract, which dimineshes trade value...and alot (but not all) think Juedy has been hindered by QB play and organizational disfunction....and he has a couple controllable years left.  

 

Oliver isn't a valuable asset to the Broncos (and their fans) considering all this.  I am sure there are a number of ALL teams fans that would be interested in Ed Oliver as a free agent at X dollars on a new contract.....but Oliver as part of a Juedy trade doesn't move the needle.  Denver would want draft picks....not an expiring contract.

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

9 hours ago, WideNine said:

1?! 🤨

6?  Maybe.

12?  It's a deal.

 

[IndyMark]

13 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said:

 

 

Oh, nonsense.

 

He's not mediocre. He's good. Not as good as his draft pick would have you hoping he would be, but good. He's probably one of the five or six best guys on the team. 

 

 

I wonder, (1) Allen (2) Diggs (3) Morse (4) Milano (5) Poyer (6) Miller (7) Jones (8) Knox (9) Dawkins (10) Rosseau (11) Hyde (12) Bass and this is excluding Tremaine and Martin; whom demonstrably had better years than Oliver.

 

All this to say, while Oliver may not be as bad as some of us believe, he is just as equally overrated for some here. Oliver is a JAG. He is not even top 10 on the team.

 

Oliver is easily replaceable. He simply needs too many things to be perfect to perform.  $10m per year is way too much for him, no question.