Kaenon Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 I'd be into Williams. Wonder if Bengals just thought Brown as a strictly better upgrade or if there is more to it. Quote
Motorin' Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 The Bengals line got so much better when he was out of the lineup. He looked like a cream puff. 1 Quote
cba fan Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: He is not a good tackle. He is a guard who thinks he is a LT. If he were willing to move inside I would be all over him. He is requesting a trade because he doesn't want to play RT, so I doubt he is willing to move inside. he should reconsider. He was trending down at LT and KC just signed a RT to highest salary ever for Olineman. So RT pay is technically higher than LT now. I know historically LT has pd more but KC could start trend now equalizing the pay. Maybe. Edited March 17, 2023 by cba fan Quote
Airseven Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: He's a RT or Guard masquerading around as a Left Tackle. Bills could use both another OG and RT. Sign me up! Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 30 minutes ago, cba fan said: he should reconsider. He was trending down at LT and KC just signed a RT to highest salary ever for Olineman. So RT pay is technically higher than LT now. I know historically LT has pd more but KC could start trend now equalizing the pay. Maybe. I totally agree. It's not like guards don't make anything as well. I think it's a pride thing. IMO, with his skill set and intelligence he could be one of the best centers in the league. Kelce makes 14 million a year. He will never be a 23 million-a-year left tackle. If he stays at LT he will be a depth guy like James Hurst making 5-6 million, or out of the league. Quote
QLBillsFan Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, Airseven said: Bills could use both another OG and RT. Sign me up! Right but he’s pissed he’s being moved to RT. This impacts his ego and his long term earnings. If traded which I doubt they aren’t sending him to the Bills. 1 Quote
GreggTX Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) Average at best, but he'd be the best G on our roster and better than Spencer Brown by a pretty fair margin. If Brown finally lives up to his athletic abilities, he'd be a monster and I'd put Williams at G. He's a better pass protector than run blocker, but not by much. He could play on either side. Unfortunately, it sounds like he only wants to play LT and Dawkins is clearly better than him. He's not in a good position to be making demands as he could be fairly easily replaced. Edited March 17, 2023 by GreggTX Quote
Aussie Joe Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, GreggTX said: Average at best. Too good to play on our OL. Besides, we'd end up paying him over $10 mill because we like overpaying OL. Like the Bengals are gunna trade him to us right 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, NeverOutNick said: Yes please! Hes had a couple injuries but when healthy he’s a really good tackle and a guy I really wanted coming out of the draft. Would love to trade a 3rd for him but I’m sure it’ll cost more I would trade for him to play Right Tackle. But he wants out of Cincy cos they want him to play RT. He can't play LT in the NFL that is established. Edited March 17, 2023 by GunnerBill 3 Quote
26TrapDraw Posted March 17, 2023 Posted March 17, 2023 7 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Their patchwork MURDERED us in the Divisional No our need for emotional support animals and folding like a napkin got us murdered in the divisional. Quote
Thurman#1 Posted March 18, 2023 Posted March 18, 2023 11 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Their patchwork MURDERED us in the Divisional Their patchwork murdered our patchwork. Our whole team played bad, but the offense even worse that the D. Quote
Bill from NYC Posted March 18, 2023 Posted March 18, 2023 On 3/17/2023 at 11:08 AM, gonzo1105 said: He's a RT or Guard masquerading around as a Left Tackle. Actually he is far more suited to play LT because of his agility. RTs are generally the big bruiser types. Jonah will never resemble Orlando Pace or other monster LTs but he is a good player and as I said, agile. I do agree however that he would be a fine LG. 1 Quote
947 Posted March 18, 2023 Posted March 18, 2023 The big knock on him in his draft year was his arm length. Most teams didn't see him as a LT. He could be really good at OG or even RT, but I don't think he'll ever have success at LT. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 18, 2023 Posted March 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Actually he is far more suited to play LT because of his agility. RTs are generally the big bruiser types. Jonah will never resemble Orlando Pace or other monster LTs but he is a good player and as I said, agile. I do agree however that he would be a fine LG. The problem is he’s not agile. He’s a stiff no knee bend kind of tackle with slow feet 1 Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 18, 2023 Posted March 18, 2023 His scouting report comes out as the standard white guy scouting report. Well what he might lack in physical traits he makes up for with his high football IQ, coming from a winning pedigree, and his hand placement and agility. His scouting reports say he’s agile. The eye test and his RAS score say differently. He’s a RT or a Guard. RTs of today don’t have to be mean mauler types with heavy hands. That thinking is from 20-30 years ago. That’s like telling me the best DE is still the RDE. Eye roll worthy Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted March 18, 2023 Posted March 18, 2023 22 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I would trade for him to play Right Tackle. But he wants out of Cincy cos they want him to play RT. He can't play LT in the NFL that is established. Agreed - and he his contract is up next year, so he'll be fairly expensive. Quote
Saxum Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 20 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: Actually he is far more suited to play LT because of his agility. RTs are generally the big bruiser types. Jonah will never resemble Orlando Pace or other monster LTs but he is a good player and as I said, agile. I do agree however that he would be a fine LG. Maybe a team with a left handed QB will trade for him. Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 19, 2023 Posted March 19, 2023 I am the guy who never watches the oline and I think he’s been a bust. But I’m always a fan of getting distressed assets for cheap. When I become the GM, I am trading all my 6th and 7th picks for struggling former 1st rounders. Quote
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