Possible McKenzie Replacement Bills sign Deonte Harty (formally Deonte Harris)

[The Jokeman]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:09 PM, Straight Hucklebuck said:

I knew that would fire people up.

 

Nobody is saying he is Tyreek Hill.

 

But I listened to Sal Capaccio and Joe D and Jeremy White do their best to hype this up, as he is a Swiss Army knife kind of player.

Joe D said something like this is a player that the Chiefs would maximize.

 

He’s not.

 

He has 700 career receiving yards.

 

Like the one Saints poster said, small school guys who are fast but small are a dime a dozen.

 

The Bills couldn’t figure out how to get James Cook or Hines or McKenzie consistent touches in the pass game. I am highly skeptical he catches any meaningful volume of passes for this team. 
 

He’s proven that he is a borderline NFL player/practice squader.

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He's an above average kick/punt returnman so to call him borderline NFL/practice squad member to me  is undervalued statement.

[Low Positive]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:28 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

I could’ve swore he was a 4.35 guy, but he actually ran a 4.48

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Somebody edited the wiki page in the last hour to make that change, claiming that a "source" said so.  From a little bit of research of my own, different sources report different times. Regardless, he plays fast.

 

Here is the source for the 4.35 BTW: https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/saints-deonte-harris

Edited March 15, 2023 by FrenchConnection

[TheyCallMeAndy]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:37 PM, FrenchConnection said:

Somebody edited the wiki page in the last hour to make that change, claiming that a "source" said so.  From a little bit of research of my own, different sources report different times. Regardless, he plays fast.

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Beane is like “Damn it! That 4.35 was a typo!!”

[Low Positive]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:40 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Beane is like “Damn it! That 4.35 was a typo!!”

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By the time that you have tape of actual NFL games, pro day 40 times don't really matter. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:37 PM, ngbills said:

So it’s even worse? Small, 4.48 guy, with injury history, limited numbers in a pass happy offense that gets creative, and we pay guaranteed money. 

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But, but, but,

 

#1 for the jersey number is 🔥 

 

He and McKenzie will need a sweet slot nickname. Dirty Harty? 

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:41 PM, FrenchConnection said:

By the time that you have tape of actual NFL games, pro day 40 times don't really matter. 

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No, he looks plenty fast and shifty. 

[NewEra]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:22 PM, Mr. WEO said:

 

how is he not? He's 3rd  of WR and 4th overall in yards, had 5 TDs total, caught 65% of his passes (with the drops).  That's a chunk for WR3

 

 i hear you, but when/how did you become a big fan of this obscure player?  About 9 am?

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No.  I’m in a 15 team dynasty league.  Lots of roster spots and limited free agent pool.

 

Randomly watching a saints game, he made a few plays that made me think “dam!! That dude has some jets and some wiggle”.   So I picked him up and have been monitoring him since.  So yeah…. Not 9am.  Thanks for playing 

[newcam2012]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:03 PM, Success said:

 

The injuries are mostly hammy - not size related.

 

And "speed" is no small thing.  We haven't had a guy who can truly stretch the field.

 

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I get that but he's really unproven and still injury prone hammy or not. Seems like a pretty big reach to me. I'd rather allocate that money to a more proven commodity like a Lockett,Dhop, or draft Zay Flowers. 

Edited March 15, 2023 by newcam2012

[Freddie's Dead]

Wow, way more expensive than McKittrick.  Serious challenger to my boy McK.

[Big Turk]

 

He is a tough cover one on one and gets a lot of separation as well.

Edited March 15, 2023 by Big Turk

[John from Riverside]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:25 PM, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Same goes for the Bills truthers

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Just show me where a bills, truthers put or put words in your mouth
 

They don’t do that they play off the crap that you post

[TheyCallMeAndy]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:49 PM, newcam2012 said:

I get that but he's really unproven and still injury prone hammy or not. Seems like a pretty big reach to me. I'd rather allocate that money to a more proven commodity like a Lockett,Dhop, or Zay Flowers. 

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He’s coming to play with an elite QB now, who’s gotten his WRs to elevate their play. 

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 3/15/2023 at 2:00 PM, TOboy said:

Like the player, don’t love the price. Would love to be proven wrong this season. 

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Yeah like the player but hopefully the contract structure is lower than what we see. McKenzie is officially gone. Hines is our return guy,  so Harty will move into what we should've gotten out of BBQ.  Like to see some go routes for him too.  Lastly his speed on tape looks much faster than his 4.48?

[NewEra]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:26 PM, freddyjj said:

Agreed as Harty's 2021 Highlights show him running digs, curls, Go routes and deep skinny posts that McKenzie doesn't.  Also have to believe with Gates' and McGovern's mobility we will see more WR screens using Harty as Saints used him for that too.  Also can run that little touch pass out of shotgun where WR comes across formation.  

 

So guessing Hines will do KO returns and Harty will be PR.

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Yeah, Hines KO, Harty PR sounds like the plan.  
 

his route tree is more advanced than most think.  He ran the deep skinny post to perfection.  That short area/stop and go explosion that he possesses is so difficult to defend on all 3 levels.  
 

His future in Buffalo is in the hands of Dorsey + him being healthy in the playoffs.
 

 

[newcam2012]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:51 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

He’s coming to play with an elite QB now, who’s gotten his WRs to elevate their play. 

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Hopefully, that will work out. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

His catch and drop % are both good 

Edited March 15, 2023 by TheyCallMeAndy

[Pecos Bills]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:37 PM, FrenchConnection said:

Somebody edited the wiki page in the last hour to make that change, claiming that a "source" said so.  From a little bit of research of my own, different sources report different times. Regardless, he plays fast.

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Yes, numerous sources reported in 2019 he ran a 4.35 at a Harvard pro day that year:

https://www.si.com/nfl/saints/news/saints-deonte-harris

(Edit: I see you have also located that same article, cheers)

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[Straight Hucklebuck]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:37 PM, The Jokeman said:

He's an above average kick/punt returnman so to call him borderline NFL/practice squad member to me  is undervalued statement.

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IN 2019

 

2019 

[newcam2012]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:53 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

His catch and drop % are both outstanding 

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All of the 20 balls thrown his  way? 

[LABILLBACKER]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:28 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

I could’ve swore he was a 4.35 guy, but he actually ran a 4.48

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Watch his tape. He looks like a sub 4.39 guy. 

[BillzFreak]

  On 3/15/2023 at 6:51 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said:

He’s coming to play with an elite QB now, who’s gotten his WRs to elevate their play. 

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Bingo!!! Alott of people are failing to take that into account. Guy has speed which is what this team is severely lacking. And has a pretty full route tree as well. Let's see what Josh can do with him before we throw him away already.