Aussie Joe Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: What about a short to medium term injury? You want a guy who can keep you at least .500 or better so your season isn’t donezo. They have paid Mitch T and Case $2-3M the last two years.. who do you expect to come here for that money? Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: They have paid Mitch T and Case $2-3M the last two years.. who do you expect to come here for that money? Expect? Kyle Allen. That doesn’t mean I agree with not spending more there. If Spotrac’s market value of $5.4 million for Brissett is correct I’d happily find the extra $2-3M to pay that. Quote
Aussie Joe Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, JohnBonhamRocks said: Expect? Kyle Allen. That doesn’t mean I agree with not spending more there. If Spotrac’s market value of $5.4 million for Brissett is correct I’d happily find the extra $2-3M to pay that. Will Kyle Allen keep us at 0.500 ? Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Aussie Joe said: Will Kyle Allen keep us at 0.500 ? 1 1 Quote
DCofNC Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Feel like Mayfield gets or competes for a starting job. Wentz either competes or is a bridge QB for a team drafting a rookie QB high. Brissett is by far the best option followed by Rush, Minshew, Mariota, and Bridgewater, in that order imho. QB2 is important for this team, too, with Allen’s style of play plus coming off his UCL injury. Brissett is going to be paid very well, look at the guys that weren’t as good as him, 5+ a year for back ups, no way we can waste that on a back up. Quote
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, DCofNC said: Brissett is going to be paid very well, look at the guys that weren’t as good as him, 5+ a year for back ups, no way we can waste that on a back up. I’d pay $5-6M for him maybe $7M but past that it’s tough to allocate that much money there Quote
Aussie Joe Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: I’d pay $5-6M for him maybe $7M but past that it’s tough to allocate that much money there Its way too much this year... I wouldnt even be totally surprised if we go with Barkley as the backup in 2023.. They have very limited money to spend on QB2 this year... They still have to replace Edmonds and Poyer.. Maybe also bring in a cheap RT to put up some type of challenge to Brown... Edited March 15, 2023 by Aussie Joe 1 Quote
BBFL Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 18 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: What about a short to medium term injury? You want a guy who can keep you at least .500 or better so your season isn’t donezo. Totally agree. I say this point as a Bills fan when discussing MVP’s… I love Josh. He is the man but in terms of neutrality, Mahomes edges him due to the accolades and success post-season (Coaching plays a huge part in that). Josh however is undoubtably more valuable to the franchise he plays than most QB’s out there… Without Josh this team is barely scraping 6/7 wins. Donezo without Josh period. However, you would like to remain competitive to at least stand a chance… What about Minshew? 1 Quote
DrPJax Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 14 hours ago, uticaclub said: We shouldn't pay anything more than the vet min. It's hard to imagine this team doing anything at all without Allen. Get another lineman or WR and a JAG backup. Ask polian, you don’t want to lose your job being unprepared. But the real issue is you don’t want to lose the whole season if Allen is out a half or a game. You owe it to the entire team to be prepared for short term issues with josh. Every team goes down without your 1, except for the amazing 49ers last year with mr irrelevant at qb. Home field can come down to one game , so if josh is out for just a game or two, your gm better be prepared or you waste another year, millions of $, and its an inexcusable mistake as a gm to think a qb will play every down, every year. You are paying miller 120 mil $, to win now, not be set up to just blow a year off. Man, the AFC is murder this year. Mahomes, Burrows,Allen, Rodgers probably (He is stupid coming to this conference), Watson, Jackson, Tua, jimmy G in Los Vegas, Herbert, Russel Wilson in Denver. This conference is absolutely loaded with qb talent. Beane cant ignore the backup qb position , again ask polianm who lost his job when manning was out unexpectedly. I would try to get someone like jocoby brisett if he is free. He can at least win a couple of games. Mitch looked really much worse than i ever expected and lost his job to a rookie from PITT! That’s bad! Has to be someone , dalton is going to the Panthers , but I don’t think Barkley is enough and if Beane ignores it , you just know it will bite us! Hey, maybe bring in the qb from the winning team in the xfl, or something creative. Maybe Matt Ryan would humble himself which might be a decent guy on the sideline as well since the colts cut him. Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 9 hours ago, SoMAn said: Sounds like you believe 6th (and later) are just throw-a-ways to be used as camp fodder. Do the names Tom Brady or Terrell Davis ring a bell? Plenty of 6th, 7th, and undrafted players make NFL active rosters. There will be numerous FA options better than Bennett that wouldn’t cost a precious draft pick. You’re giving me two players who checks notes where 6th round picks over 20 years ago Quote
SectionC3 Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Its way too much this year... I wouldnt even be totally surprised if we go with Barkley as the backup in 2023.. They have very limited money to spend on QB2 this year... They still have to replace Edmonds and Poyer.. Maybe also bring in a cheap RT to put up some type of challenge to Brown... The Brown challenge probably is in the draft or on the roster (Tommy Doyle). Benford replaces Poyer, so long as Dane Jackson returns. Edmunds replacement probably is in FA. QB2 is starting to look like Kyle Allen or someone (Mariota, maybe Matt Ryan) willing to work cheap (think $2m/year). Quote
T master Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/14/2023 at 9:28 AM, boyst said: I am surprised this is not a conversation already being had because it is an important decision. We have seen next to nothing on links and possibilities. Does anyone have any ideas? I would love to see Mitch cut and come back. Isn't Barkley still under contract with the team ? I would like to see another better QB come in but i would like it to be 1 that is a bit more cap friendly than either Mitch or Case . Is Tyrod available 😎 ?? Quote
Spiderweb Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/14/2023 at 10:57 AM, 78thealltimegreat said: WGR was speculating just keep Matt Barkley and then take a late round flyer on a QB…might be a spot for Stetson Bennett like in the 6th Absolutely pass on Bennett. Shame to all who even mention his name and the Bills in the same breath.. 😁 Quote
Ben Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Spiderweb said: Absolutely pass on Bennett. Shame to all who even mention his name and the Bills in the same breath.. 😁 Remind you too much of Jake fromm? Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ben said: Remind you too much of Jake fromm? Jake is actually younger than Bennett. Quote
SoMAn Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 4 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: You’re giving me two players who checks notes where 6th round picks over 20 years ago I’m not that into this debate that I’m going to research it, but I’m sure there are plenty of day 3 picks who are tenured on NFL rosters. Not the 6th round, but just before in round 5 are 2 more recent names you might recognize: Tyreek Hill, Stefon Diggs. Some prospects are late bloomers. Some suffered injuries in college that knocked them down a few notches. Some were in bad systems or small schools. Some needed a higher level of coaching. Hopefully, our personnel dept will recognize potential that can be developed. Bennett doesn’t have the physical traits needed for NFL football. It would be a huge gamble and probably a waste of a draft pick- a valuable commodity when building and maintaining a roster. Quote
Ben Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: Jake is actually younger than Bennett. Good point. Quote
billsfan_34 Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 On 3/14/2023 at 10:28 AM, boyst said: I am surprised this is not a conversation already being had because it is an important decision. We have seen next to nothing on links and possibilities. Does anyone have any ideas? I would love to see Mitch cut and come back. Did you not see Trubisky play in Pittsburgh last season? Dude was horrible- hard pass. Quote
boyst Posted March 15, 2023 Author Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, billsfan_34 said: Did you not see Trubisky play in Pittsburgh last season? Dude was horrible- hard pass. i saw him play in buffalo under daboll. which... maybe the giants hsould go after him. Quote
The Jokeman Posted March 15, 2023 Posted March 15, 2023 14 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: They have paid Mitch T and Case $2-3M the last two years.. who do you expect to come here for that money? Mariota was making $3.5 million as a backup to the Raiders, I saw give him a base $3m offer and incentives to earn more based on playing time. Quote
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