Shanahan's Horseshoe Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 16 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Dawkins-Bates-Morse-McGovrn-Brown If Brown takes a step with his first healthy offseason, Bills could be much improved from a pass blocking perspective. Yeah except Brown is awful. If he improves he’s still he bottoms tier Quote
Process Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 I have serious doubts that the Bills are ready to move on from Brown at RT. So it looks like we have our starting OL for next year. It's impossible to be worse than Saffold, so we've upgraded. But is Dawkins - Bates - Morse - McGovern - Brown good enough? Blahh. Still need to draft multiple guys for the pipeline and depth. 1 Quote
MAJBobby Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 good way to look at value here. A late 5/6th round compensatory value based on this contract. I will do that all day long for a consistent 26 year old OG. 1 Quote
Saxum Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 34 minutes ago, BigBadBills said: Totally overpaid for a dude who had a 52 PFF score. Yikes So he did not bribe PFF. Big deal. 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Like this one. Wonder if they cut Morse for space now and move Bates to C? Morse is playing this year. The time to move on is next March. I have to admit I'm not sold on Bates at C. I want to see how McGovern does in camp. 1 Quote
JaCrispy Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 42 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: We will see how it plays out but right now I feel like its an overpay. I don’t trust Beane with talent evaluation… 2 Quote
HaldimandBills Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 Don't know anything about this guy. Don't care that he's played Fullback, Center, and Tightend. I just want freaking guards who are above average and won't get Josh Killed. NFC East had a lot of nasty Dtackle last year so hopefully he works out and isn't shell shocked by what he sees in the AFC East. 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 13, 2023 Author Posted March 13, 2023 36 minutes ago, BigBadBills said: Totally overpaid for a dude who had a 52 PFF score. Yikes He must’ve whiffed on every run block because they grade him very high as a pass blocker. Quote
HappyDays Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) It's the kind of signing Beane makes when we have a glaring hole on the roster. Now we don't have to force a guard pick in the draft, but if we happen to draft a good one I'm sure it's easy to move on from McGovern after this year. A solid middle of the road starter that upgrades Saffold and gives us a reasonable floor at the position. I'm good with it. Edited March 13, 2023 by HappyDays 2 4 Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 Just now, HaldimandBills said: Don't know anything about this guy. Don't care that he's played Fullback, Center, and Tightend. I just want freaking guards who are above average and won't get Josh Killed. NFC East had a lot of nasty Dtackle last year so hopefully he works out and isn't shell shocked by what he sees in the AFC East. He only gave up 2 sacks in 1,005 snaps and only took 1 penalty. That's a start. 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 13, 2023 Author Posted March 13, 2023 Wouldn’t it be funny if they actually signed the other Connor McGovern. 1 Quote
Success Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Process said: I have serious doubts that the Bills are ready to move on from Brown at RT. So it looks like we have our starting OL for next year. It's impossible to be worse than Saffold, so we've upgraded. But is Dawkins - Bates - Morse - McGovern - Brown good enough? Blahh. Still need to draft multiple guys for the pipeline and depth. I don't think they should move on from Brown yet. He has so much potential, and he has played well at times. I would guess their thinking is let's see how he does with a full offseason & no injury to deal with. I think the line you post there is very solid, but I do expect them to draft a guard in one of the 1st couple of rounds (maybe a tackle to compete w/ Brown, who they feel could convert if Brown plays well). Quote
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 could the Bills surprise and also sign Risner or Seumalo? 2 Quote
HaldimandBills Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Process said: I have serious doubts that the Bills are ready to move on from Brown at RT. So it looks like we have our starting OL for next year. It's impossible to be worse than Saffold, so we've upgraded. But is Dawkins - Bates - Morse - McGovern - Brown good enough? Blahh. Still need to draft multiple guys for the pipeline and depth. Absolutely they still need to upgrade. Bates right now should be your back up interior lineman and replace Morse at center eventually. Right Tackle absolutely needs an upgrade. Can't have guys coming around clean like last season. Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 13, 2023 Author Posted March 13, 2023 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: It's the kind of signing Beane makes when we have a glaring hole on the roster. Now we don't have to force a guard pick in the draft, but if we happen to draft a good one I'm sure it's easy to move on from McGovern after this year. A solid middle of the road starter that upgrades Saffold and gives us a reasonable floor at the position. I'm good with it. I don’t hate the signing but they went with an upside signing similar to Tim Settle last year. I would rather they spent a little more on a Dalton Risner, someone with more experience. I honestly can’t say with confidence that this guy will solve our OG problem. So I don’t like that. Quote
Bruffalo Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 Eh, it's better than nothing. I still think it's a draft need. 4 Quote
SCBills Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, HappyDays said: It's the kind of signing Beane makes when we have a glaring hole on the roster. Now we don't have to force a guard pick in the draft, but if we happen to draft a good one I'm sure it's easy to move on from McGovern after this year. A solid middle of the road starter that upgrades Saffold and gives us a reasonable floor at the position. I'm good with it. Yup.. Bills have a serviceable, with potential, starting OL with Boettger and Doyle as depth, if no other moves are made before the draft. At the very least, at least this time they signed a younger RG (Bates can play LG now) who’s good at pass pro, suspect at run blocking … as opposed to an older LG (forces Bates to RG) who’s supposed to be a good run blocker, suspect at pass pro. I much prefer this approach. Edited March 13, 2023 by SCBills Quote
WMDman Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 I like it, still in the draft Torrance camp, line next year could be Dion, McGovern, Morse, Torrance, Brown 1 1 Quote
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