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[Brand J]

8 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

I give Mahomes plenty of credit. He is a great QB and right now the best in the game. But Mahomes has one of the best OL's in the league with Allen having one of the worst. Josh deserves some blame here. He does turnover the ball over to much and he needs to clean up that part of his game. But at the same he is running for his life on many plays because of a weak OL. A better OL and Josh trying not to play "hero ball" as much as he does will help cut down on the turnovers.

Your post had made it sound like the two QBs were simply interchangeable, “put this guy here and this one here…” and I didn’t think that was the case. Josh’s turnovers have to get cleaned up, like you said hopefully a better OL won’t have him feeling pressure where there’s none. He did leave clean pockets and made things tougher on himself as well. Another aspect of Josh’s game that must improve is field vision. I don’t know what happened this last season, but it seemed he regressed a bit. Players were open, but he wasn’t seeing things clearly. Does that have to do with the OL as well? Possibly. Allen is his own worst critic and I loved seeing his was still visibly distraught talking about the season after a few weeks had gone by. He knows what needs to be improved and hopefully takes his game to an even higher level next year. 

[Gregg]

43 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

He was a favorite personality wish it could have worked out better here.

 

 

Future NYG.

1 minute ago, JayBaller10 said:

Your post had made it sound like the two QBs were simply interchangeable, “put this guy here and this one here…” and I didn’t think that was the case. Josh’s turnovers have to get cleaned up, like you said hopefully a better OL won’t have him feeling pressure where there’s none. He did leave clean pockets and made things tougher on himself as well. Another aspect of Josh’s game that must improve is field vision. I don’t know what happened this last season, but it seemed he regressed a bit. Players were open, but he wasn’t seeing things clearly. Does that have to do with the OL as well? Possibly. Allen is his own worst critic and I loved seeing his was still visibly distraught talking about the season after a few weeks had gone by. He knows what needs to be improved and hopefully takes his game to an even higher level next year. 

 

Maybe not having Daboll was a bigger loss for Josh then we thought?

[wppete]

31 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

With McK released, we should have about 11.5 in space. 

This should happens ASAP. I think OBJ is a very good bet if they release McKenzie and save $11.5million to use on OBJ. 

[Brand J]

2 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

Future NYG.

 

Maybe not having Daboll was a bigger loss for Josh then we thought?

A seasoned, veteran play caller versus a first year one can’t be understated. Daboll had his faults too, many on this board wanted him gone, but I like that Dorsey and Allen have an entire year of tape to pore over. They’ll get it right, I fully believe that. It’s on McD and the defense to get their side corrected. 

[Bobby Hooks]

1 minute ago, wppete said:

This should happens ASAP. I think OBJ is a very good bet if they release McKenzie and save $11.5million to use on OBJ. 

We need a mlb pretty badly. 

[wppete]

Just now, Bobby Hooks said:

We need a mlb pretty badly. 

Who’s left out there? Or do we go MLB in the draft? 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

1 minute ago, wppete said:

This should happens ASAP. I think OBJ is a very good bet if they release McKenzie and save $11.5million to use on OBJ. 

I think it has more to do with Harty being a better mid-deep range WR. McKenzie was most effective in the short range throws. 

[papazoid]

obj is one big distraction.....no way he joins this team

 

the only reason its even part of a conversation is out of respect for von miller who was pushing hard for him

[BeastMode54]

6 minutes ago, wppete said:

This should happens ASAP. I think OBJ is a very good bet if they release McKenzie and save $11.5million to use on OBJ. 

he'd take more than that. he's asking for 15-20M. And we need $ for rookies. We would need more restructures

If OBJ comes to the Bills, I don't really understand all the hate he gets. He's had his moments on the sideline with his outbursts, but his teammates love him and he seems like he's a good dude. I think he'd fit in well

[Bobby Hooks]

5 minutes ago, wppete said:

Who’s left out there? Or do we go MLB in the draft? 

Bobby Wagner. I thought we were getting Lavonte David. 

[SCBills]

Just now, BeastMode54 said:

he'd take more than that. he's asking for 15-20M. And we need $ for rookies. We would need more restructures

It makes all the sense in the world to extend Hyde to match Poyer, along with Daquan Jones so we can have literally one DT under contract for ‘24.  
 

As long as all parties are willing, I’d think we could see both happening at some point. 

[TheyCallMeAndy]

6 minutes ago, wppete said:

Who’s left out there? Or do we go MLB in the draft? 

I think it’s draft at this point. 

[KingBoots8]

6 minutes ago, wppete said:

Who’s left out there? Or do we go MLB in the draft? 

Wagner or draft Jack Campbell

[finn]

24 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

I give Mahomes plenty of credit. He is a great QB and right now the best in the game. But Mahomes has one of the best OL's in the league with Allen having one of the worst. Josh deserves some blame here. He does turnover the ball over to much and he needs to clean up that part of his game. But at the same he is running for his life on many plays because of a weak OL. A better OL and Josh trying not to play "hero ball" as much as he does will help cut down on the turnovers.

I think you're right that Mahomes' receiving corps weren't elite, but neither was Allen's. If you grant that Diggs and Kelsey are equivalent, who had the better receivers? At best it's a wash, but I would give Mahomes the edge. Plus, as you say, he had one of the best lines in the league and Allen the worst. So I can't agree with what has become the consensus view that Mahomes is better. Put him behind Allen's line and give him Dorsey calling his plays instead of Reid and we'll see who's better. 

[Draconator]

Just posted this in the Poyer thread, for all the capologists out there

 

 

[Airseven]

3 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:

Wagner or draft Jack Campbell

 

I'm warming to one of these ancient free agent vets. Mostly because they would still need OL, DL, and WR early in the draft.

[Franco_92]

6 minutes ago, KingBoots8 said:

Wagner or draft Jack Campbell

Now that is a classic MLB name 

[The Wiz]

47 minutes ago, clayboy54 said:

No, just about 2.5M.

They went over all the numbers this morning on Wgr.

 

It's about 2.5 for draft, 3 for injuries and settlements and another 3-4m for PS elevations.

 

I believe those were the numbers they listed.

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

They went over all the numbers this morning on Wgr.

 

It's about 2.5 for draft, 3 for injuries and settlements and another 3-4m for PS elevations.

 

I believe those were the numbers they listed.

Putting on my GM hat, if we have 11.5M currently, that accounts for about 9M of it.  
 

I’d probably be trying to work with Hyde and Jones with extensions that could free up another 3-4M this year. 
 

Would give us enough money for one more impact signing/trade and then it will be fill-out-the-roster time. 
 

Still hoping for an Ed Oliver trade so we can really make some moves, but not getting my hopes up. 

[papazoid]

as any of the rookies make the 53 ....an equal number leave, offsetting some of that cap space