Warriorspikes51 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I'm not a big fan of him. Glad the Bills didn't do that 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: I'm not a big fan of him. Glad the Bills didn't do that Not that it means anything, but Jets fans hate him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 (edited) 34 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Soo they’re not good at drafting because they’ve drafted to fit scheme and the scheme helps players succeed which results in winning games? I don’t follow. More often than not those two realities are mutually exclusive. If you don’t draft well… it’s hard to win. So what’s going to give? That’s correct. They are not good at drafting. They’ve just recently spent three top round picks on the D Line and still don’t have much of a pass rush to speak of. What draft picks are you watching? Now, this isn’t to say that those young guys can’t eventually become top players but they definitely aren’t there yet. And yes, the scheme papers over those deficiencies. You can maintain its egg and chicken. I’m sticking with chicken and egg. 😉 Edited March 16, 2023 by SoCal Deek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Recency bias, he was hurt all year, but you could do a lot worse with a piece of clay like Jack. He wouldn't be my favorite choice, but outside of Wagner, Tranquill, he's probably next in the pipeline for me. Maybe he follows Flores to Minnesota. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 8 hours ago, BillsFanForever19 said: It's only been rough if you were expecting some kind of crazy spending spree happening and big names coming in when we were going into it 18.7 over the cap and had 24 players to re-sign or replace. Rodgers to Jets MIA making a number of upgrades KC and CIN both making significant moves Meanwhile we spend money that could have been used elsewhere on Hines, Harty, Mata, Martin, Lewis, Dotson 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, ngbills said: Rodgers to Jets MIA making a number of upgrades KC and CIN both making significant moves Meanwhile we spend money that could have been used elsewhere on Hines, Harty, Mata, Martin, Lewis, Dotson Miami, KC and Cincy have all lost players, too. I'm not sure why anyone expected us to be "big players" in FA this year. Our cap is in a different situation than most teams, largely because we made the biggest splash last year. Adding a starting guard and speedy receiver, and retaining role players who know our system? I'd say we're doing okay. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, ngbills said: Rodgers to Jets MIA making a number of upgrades KC and CIN both making significant moves Meanwhile we spend money that could have been used elsewhere on Hines, Harty, Mata, Martin, Lewis, Dotson And still the team to beat in the AFCE 4 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaggersEOD Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 39 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Now wait a minute… if this was Beane people would be upset. “He botched fixing the OL last year so he had to let our S tandem walk to try and fix it again.” Oddly sounds like “He botched the DL situation with Rousseau/Epenesa/Basham and had to go give Von Miller a big contract.” You can’t have your cake and eat it too. To me, the difference is one is trying to create pass rush and the other is trying to protect the future HOF player that currently determines the fortunes of the team. There’s always a market for “extra” linemen. Not much of a market for underperforming DL. Makes the “misses” less painful. IMO the frustration is the failed investment on the wrong side of the ball. Not that he failed as no one is perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I'm not a big fan of him. Glad the Bills didn't do that Absolutely brutal drops in key spots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: That’s correct. They are not good at drafting. They’ve just recently spent three top round picks on the D Line and still don’t have much of a pass rush to speak of. What draft picks are you watching? Now, this isn’t to say that those young guys can’t eventually become top players but they definitely aren’t there yet. And yes, the scheme papers over those deficiencies. You can maintain its egg and chicken. I’m sticking with chicken and egg. 😉 You’re right. Most teams turn picks in the 24-28 range into instantaneous superstars. I mean look at KC with HOFers like Clyde Edwards-Helaire. I don’t know what Beane is thinking. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Come on Beane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 minute ago, 4merper4mer said: You’re right. Most teams turn picks in the 24-28 range into instantaneous superstars. I mean look at KC with HOFers like Clyde Edwards-Helaire. I don’t know what Beane is thinking. And Cincinnati, the current king of the good drafting mountain, drafted Billy Price and Jonah Williams in the first round in back to back years. You think Cody Ford was a bust? Go check out Billy Price. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Stating the obvious - but OBJ is asking for WAY too much, considering all of the circumstances. I wonder if any team will pick him up at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: You’re right. Most teams turn picks in the 24-28 range into instantaneous superstars. I mean look at KC with HOFers like Clyde Edwards-Helaire. I don’t know what Beane is thinking. Teams like Pittsburgh and Baltimore turned those picks into great players all the time. I understand it's not the norm but that's what the good teams do. Cam Heyward, Pouncy, Reed, Lewis the list is long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 49 minutes ago, clayboy54 said: You know the old saying, "You can't please Bills fans on TSW anytime." It’s easy to please me, show me the baby and it all goes away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dje85 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Success said: Stating the obvious - but OBJ is asking for WAY too much, considering all of the circumstances. I wonder if any team will pick him up at this point. I bet any contract he gets will be heavily incentivized. That said I bet the max he can earn will be in that range. But he will have to do a lot to earn it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Do a 15m with incentives sprinkled in just get one of the big 3 being floated around in here. Hop, Jeudy, or OBJ in that order let's go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: And Cincinnati, the current king of the good drafting mountain, drafted Billy Price and Jonah Williams in the first round in back to back years. You think Cody Ford was a bust? Go check out Billy Price. Historically one of the worst drafting franchises of all time. Burrow will be the new Anthony Munoz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: It’s easy to please me, show me the baby and it all goes away. The baby better not be wearing those God-awful blue helmet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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