BritBill Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, boyst said: ... whats your point? you don't see the comedy in that and that there is no real plan on that based in reality? No, I saw the comedy in nearly all of it. Quote
gjv Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 Good trade for the Dolphins. Not too often that you get a starting DB in the 3rd round of the draft. 1 Quote
RiotAct Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 10 hours ago, boyst said: coach, we have a doofus as a HC, lost a hand wringer at DC to be replaced by... Some dude I don't know or care about yet. … the doofus Quote
Chicken Boo Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 Anyone who thinks the additions of Vic Fangio and Jalen Ramsey won't improve the Phins defense is kidding themselves. 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, HaldimandBills said: That Bills playoff game gave the Dolphins serious false hope as to how close they are. The Bills were running on fumes and likely would've lost to the Jets had the Jets been the 1st Round opponent. Miami still has a linebacker problem. A major oline problem and a QB and offensive system that was being figured out by every opposing defense outside our stupid Cover 2 Zone defense before suffering his second concussion. People forget that the Niners Chargers, and Packers had that Tua Offense locked down. That Miami win late during the regular season was when I knew things were not right with this Bills team. It was too difficult for us and our defense struggled way too much after the Niners and Chargers gave us a blue print on how to beat their offense. Heck the Packers used the exact same defensive blueprint a week after and took it to Miami. For some reason we just couldn't get out of our own way late last season. Miami has serious let down written all over them. They're trying to hard to be the 2022 SuperBowl Rams but don't have Aaron Donald, The Oline and Matthew Stafford and they play in a much more loaded AFC. I would agree with all of this except one thing: Miami was SHREDDING GB before Tua got his concussion. Had like 250 yards or something in the 1st half with 2 TDs, and this was against the number 1 pass defence Edited March 13, 2023 by BillsFan130 1 Quote
Doc Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 12 hours ago, Billl said: Sustainable? He was terrible, and they still scored 31. You’d be hard pressed to find a less capable QB than Skylar Thompson, and they still produced. That is one of the best rosters in football. When Tua is healthy, they’re at worst slight underdogs in every game. When he isn’t healthy, they’ve still got a puncher’s chance. Now they aren’t good enough to win a Super Bowl with a backup, but neither is anyone else. They’re perfectly capable of making the playoffs if Tua misses 4 games in the regular season. This move absolutely closes the gap a bit. I still think the Bills are the favorites to win the East even if NY signs Rodgers, but at this point I’d take the field. Sounds like last year when people thought adding Russell Wilson to the Broncos’ excellent defense was going to make them a Super Bowl contender or adding Davante Adams to the Raiders, would do the same for them. Quote
Nitro Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 19 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Great guy to get us to hate the Fins again. I have been so indifferent towards them for decades AMEN! Quote
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 11 hours ago, HaldimandBills said: That Bills playoff game gave the Dolphins serious false hope as to how close they are. The Bills were running on fumes and likely would've lost to the Jets had the Jets been the 1st Round opponent. Miami still has a linebacker problem. A major oline problem and a QB and offensive system that was being figured out by every opposing defense outside our stupid Cover 2 Zone defense before suffering his second concussion. People forget that the Niners Chargers, and Packers had that Tua Offense locked down. That Miami win late during the regular season was when I knew things were not right with this Bills team. It was too difficult for us and our defense struggled way too much after the Niners and Chargers gave us a blue print on how to beat their offense. Heck the Packers used the exact same defensive blueprint a week after and took it to Miami. For some reason we just couldn't get out of our own way late last season. Miami has serious let down written all over them. They're trying to hard to be the 2022 SuperBowl Rams but don't have Aaron Donald, The Oline and Matthew Stafford and they play in a much more loaded AFC. I think Chubbs overrated and they PAID him. Howard is overrated and overpaid. Phillips started to put it together a bit but he isn't anything to write home about. Wilkins is a good disrupter in the middle. Honestly their Safeties are really solid players too in Holland and Jones. It shores up a weak spot for them for sure, and between him and Chubb you've added some serious talent to the defense. But they're a team without depth, and they need to pay their QB next season so they're swinging for the fences. 1 1 Quote
HaldimandBills Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 49 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said: I would agree with all of this except one thing: Miami was SHREDDING GB before Tua got his concussion. Had like 250 yards or something in the 1st half with 2 TDs, and this was against the number 1 pass defence My memory failed me but you're right. I still stand by the fact that, that Miami team was rolling before the Niners and Chargers. I just think their offense will not be as explosive next season and they'll run into issues. They're pouring all their resources into their defense and neglecting their oline. Will see if Waddle and Hill go off again for the same amount of yards. History suggests without stud QB play it will be hard to repeat. I am still not crazy about their defense given their linebackers are average. Edited March 13, 2023 by HaldimandBills 1 Quote
BillsFan130 Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, HaldimandBills said: My memory failed me but you're right. I still stand by the fact that, that Miami team was rolling before the Niners and Chargers. I just think their offense will not be as explosive next season and they'll run into issues. They're pouring all their resources into their defense and neglecting their oline. Will see if Waddle and Hill go off again for the same amount of yards. History suggests without stud QB play it will be hard to repeat. I am still not crazy about their defense given their linebackers are average. Yes sir I agree with you. One more concussion to Tua and their season is basically over as well. Quote
Bruffalo Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 The lack of O-Line investment tells me they're running Tua for one more year and one more year only. I can't say I disagree with the premise. Tua has major concussion concerns, I wouldn't build around him long term either. Quote
boyst Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 2 hours ago, BritBill said: No, I saw the comedy in nearly all of it. so you think it's an actual viable plan and that this front office actualyl is goign to go forward with letting Dorsey wing it with Josh? this team is not going to get to the super bowl any time soon. they won't even have a chance in the AFCC. Quote
May Day 10 Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 That team will always be a Tyreek Hill pulled hamstring away from complete disaster. If they can hold it all together, gel, and get fortunate with injuries, they are absolutely in the top class. Quote
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, foreboding said: They aren't cutting their best CB. Ramsey doesn't worry me at all. He's just gonna chew up cap and burn the Dolphins itty-bitty window out even quicker. Xavien Howard was awful last year…could be injury related though. People should pump the breaks on them having two great corners until X potentially returns to form I don’t really understand the dolphins…resource wise they’re all in but the odds of tua winning 4 straight playoff games is extremely low. He’s good at what he likes to do but he’s not gonna win a shootout with mahomes and playoff caliber defenses are going to take away the middle of the field. They’re in danger of not being able to resign some great young players coming off rookie deals the next few years and are likely going to be in the qb market after next season. Edited March 13, 2023 by Generic_Bills_Fan Quote
Einstein Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 13 hours ago, QLBillsFan said: Trey is one year removed from his, Von will be back mid year. I think it's fair to wonder whether Trey or Von are ever the same player again. There was a study that showed how NFL players show reduced play after ACL injuries and both of our players coming off ACL's are near 30 or in their 30's. 1 Quote
Malazan Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 This is the best move made for the Bills passing offense so far this offseason. I don't know how Beane convinced them to do it. Quote
Kwai San Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 On 3/12/2023 at 1:56 PM, Bill51390 said: Sounds done. Well God has delivered him to a Tax free state......but thats about it. Now JA17 will feast!!!! Quote
billsfan89 Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 Ramsey was graded out well by PFF in 2022 despite the Rams down season but I have always found Ramsey to be overrated, a very good player at times but not the elite player he is often stated to be. I am not really concerned about this, the Fins should have spent their resources on the O-line as opposed to their defense. Quote
TampaBillsJunkie Posted March 13, 2023 Posted March 13, 2023 On 3/12/2023 at 1:58 PM, Andy1 said: Jets and fins are looking to be aggressive to overtake the Bills. Bean better have a plan. They do. It's called Connor McGovern 2.0 Quote
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