Looks like the thug mentality of the Bengals comes from the top down

[Draconator]

 

[JoPoy88]

well that’s nuts.

[SCBills]

Bengals fans are losing it on Twitter.
 

Obviously not an ideal email to have sent out right before Free Agency starts.  

[Saxum]

Ohio state law requires all employers to provide workers compensation benefits to their employees, either through self-insurance or the state fund so likely Bengals owners believe they can pay less than Ohio charges but this would affect other athletes as well.  But if they have option to self-insure there is no need to change law for them to do it.

[MrEpsYtown]

Ownership have always been cheap. That’s why their window will be very small. 

[Mango]

This feels like much ado about nothing.

 

I worked for an employer that changed our ability go in the red on PTO by 2 days instead of 5. Normally not the biggest deal. But we could not roll time over and our PTO reset on our start date. 
 

So if you started in October, November, December you basically could never take off for the holidays. 
 

Anyways HR always said “blame Cuomo for changing state law”. When they’d bring it up in company meetings I would always ask “does the state prevent you from providing more than the bare minimum, or is that a choice you’ve made?”.

 

Anyways, I have to imagine the CBA has its own language around workers comp right? RIGHT?!

[SCBills]

8 minutes ago, Mango said:

This feels like much ado about nothing.

 

I worked for an employer that changed our ability go in the red on PTO by 2 days instead of 5. Normally not the biggest deal. But we could not roll time over and our PTO reset on our start date. 
 

So if you started in October, November, December you basically could never take off for the holidays. 
 

Anyways HR always said “blame Cuomo for changing state law”. When they’d bring it up in company meetings I would always ask “does the state prevent you from providing more than the bare minimum, or is that a choice you’ve made?”.

 

Anyways, I have to imagine the CBA has its own language around workers comp right? RIGHT?!

Probably is, but an email blast like that about a franchise notorious for not paying players isn’t ideal for them.  

[chongli]

 

[boyst]

Wow this seems like fair reporting 🤣🤣

[chongli]

Agree with this tweet:

 

LOL:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 12, 2023 by chongli

[Mango]

15 hours ago, SCBills said:

Probably is, but an email blast like that about a franchise notorious for not paying players isn’t ideal for them.  

Terrible. The Bengals are getting pretty good and their ownership lacks free cash flow compared to the rest of the league. Perfect timing for a (well deserved) public shaming

 

14 hours ago, chongli said:

 

Jesus. That’s bonkers. I’m legitimately shocked the NFLPA doesn’t have a comprehensive plan in place of state funded workers comp. 
 

Shame on the league. I know care for retired players has been tough to come by.  But I didn’t realize it was this tough.
 

 

Edited March 12, 2023 by Mango

[chongli]

 

 

[Mango]

26 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

 

I actually think this should be enough for the other owners to force Brown to sell. 

[Inigo Montoya]

Mike Brown is about to write a check and put $150mm into an escrow account when he extends Burrow.  Things must be tight around the Brown house, and after looking under couch cushions for $150mm with no luck, he decided to try and save a buck on worker's comp insurance premiums instead.

[JoPoy88]

54 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said:

Mike Brown is about to write a check and put $150mm into an escrow account when he extends Burrow.  Things must be tight around the Brown house, and after looking under couch cushions for $150mm with no luck, he decided to try and save a buck on worker's comp insurance premiums instead.

as hilarious as this sounds on its face, given that we’re talking about an NFL owner, this ABSOLUTELY tracks and I would be unsurprised if true.

[stuvian]

Are Pro athletes considered "workers" under labour law? 

[JoPoy88]

19 minutes ago, stuvian said:

Are Pro athletes considered "workers" under labour law? 

is that a serious question? Why wouldn’t they be?

[ProcessTruster]

Workman's Comp coverage for an athlete making more than $100k per game is kind of ridiculous.  WC wasn't meant for application to the NFL or  highly paid workers in general.  Take the WC fund and use it for workers that really need  to tap that fund when injured on the job .  In the abstract,  I actually can see where the Bengals are coming from.   The WC fund is not a bottomless pool of $$.   The optics of this are really bad for the team and they should have considered that, but fundamentally their position makes some sense.   An NFL type workplace injury could drain the fund unnecessarily (bc the team/player has more than enough dough to pay) and the fund is designed/meant for the quadriplegic phone company worker making $20/hr with 4 kids 

Edited March 12, 2023 by ProcessTruster

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, ProcessTruster said:

Workman's Comp coverage for an athlete making more than $100k per game is kind of ridiculous.  WC wasn't meant for application to the NFL or  highly paid workers in general.  Take the WC fund and use it for workers that really need  to tap that fund when injured on the job .  In the abstract,  I actually can see where the Bengals are coming from.   The WC fund is not a bottomless pool of $$.   The optics of this are really bad for the team and they should have considered that, but fundamentally their position makes some sense.   An NFL type workplace injury could drain the fund unnecessarily (bc the team/player has more than enough dough to pay) and the fund is designed/meant for the quadriplegic phone company worker making $20/hr with 4 kids 

 

 

Yeah the important optics are that it's something that ownership has to pay for though.    NYSIF charges a figure based on per $100 paid to employee.......so essentially a tax rate.    It's significant........it's in the millions in annual contributions that an NFL team has to make and I'd expect it to be more like 8 figures given the high risk nature of the job.   You have to offer an alternative privately funded option if you are taking it away though.   

 

I've been perplexed how this notoriously frugal franchise has been able to steal some free agents that the Bills were also interested in.    DJ Reader in particular.   Why do players sign on with that team?

[Don Otreply]

Typical behavior of one percenters to do what they can to make others lives more difficult,