Bills reportedly interested in Jamaal Williams

[Solomon Grundy]

33 minutes ago, MWK said:

Hope this doesn’t mean the return of Singletary

It's appearing to be likely I'm afraid

[section122]

3 years 12 million.  Singletary is punching air right now.  Id imagine he will be back on a very team friendly deal now.

[BillsFanForever19]

52 minutes ago, MWK said:

Hope this doesn’t mean the return of Singletary

 

At this point with the guys who have been signed and what they've been signed for - i'd be shocked if Singletary wasn't brought back. Only way I see that happening is if he didn't want to come back.

 

He's absolutely adored in the locker room and with the emphasis the decision makers place on team chemistry I'd bet they prefer getting him back over other options.

[Kmart128]

Id really like James Robinson. Think he would be a great 1 2 punch with Cook. Very underrated reciever as well.

Edited March 15, 2023 by Kmart128

[Mopreme]

Oh man. Miles Sanders signed with Carolina too. Really wanted him. Need Damien Harris or D’Onta Foreman could be options? 

12 minutes ago, Kmart128 said:

Id really like James Robinson. Think he would be a great 1 2 punch with Cook. Very underrated reciever as well.

Like him too

[UmbrellaMan]

Kareem Hunt?

[Airseven]

Beane re-signs Singletary incoming.

[billieve420]

3 hours ago, Kmart128 said:

Id really like James Robinson. Think he would be a great 1 2 punch with Cook. Very underrated reciever as well.

Pats signed James Robinson 2yrs max 8 million dollar deal.

[CDogg20]

Please give me Damien Harris! I think he’d be a great fit on this team

3 hours ago, Kmart128 said:

Id really like James Robinson. Think he would be a great 1 2 punch with Cook. Very underrated reciever as well.

Think hes a Pat* now

[Beck Water]

4 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

Gone forever Aaron Hernandez 

 

 

 

 

[John from Riverside]

I just think spending that kind of money on a running back would be a bad allocation of resources
 

Find a banger in the draft

[Big Blitz]

I think given our needs and who’s in this draft (not a great WR draft) - I’m really beginning to think if he’s there and they can get him we’re going to draft Bijan.   

They know they screwed up Breece last year and they did.  We needed impact players in a SB year that could play and be elite and Hall was that.  5 years you get that guy cost controlled.   
 

I hope Elam makes me forget about him by mid season.  
 

Not saying I’d do it.  Depends who else is there.  But I think Bijan as at the top of their list.  

[John from Riverside]

4 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

I think given our needs and who’s in this draft (not a great WR draft) - I’m really beginning to think if he’s there and they can get him we’re going to draft Bijan.   

They know they screwed up Breece last year and they did.  We needed impact players in a SB year that could play and be elite and Hall was that.  5 years you get that guy cost controlled.   
 

I hope Elam makes me forget about him by mid season.  
 

Not saying I’d do it.  Depends who else is there.  But I think Bijan as at the top of their list.  

I don’t agree that they think that they screwed up with the hall situation

 

Given our circumstances from last year, there was a strong possibility of that first round pick was going to be a corner, and it was and it was not a mistake it took a while for tre to come back

 

Singleterry was playing good ball for the amount that we actually use a running back cook came on in the latter half of the year

 

Then, of course, hall ended up taking the injury and didn’t even finish the season

[Big Blitz]

15 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I don’t agree that they think that they screwed up with the hall situation

 

Given our circumstances from last year, there was a strong possibility of that first round pick was going to be a corner, and it was and it was not a mistake it took a while for tre to come back

 

Singleterry was playing good ball for the amount that we actually use a running back cook came on in the latter half of the year

 

Then, of course, hall ended up taking the injury and didn’t even finish the season

 

But it doesn’t mean he gets hurt here…..

[John from Riverside]

12 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

But it doesn’t mean he gets hurt here…..

Is that what you’re sticking with well if he would’ve been with us he wouldn’t have gotten hurt?

[ngbills]

2 hours ago, Airseven said:

Beane re-signs Singletary incoming.

Yep. And it’s sold as an upgrade positive move. 

[Warriorspikes51]

2 hours ago, Airseven said:

Beane re-signs Singletary incoming.

please NO NO NO. Nothing personal against Devin. He works hard. But Defenses don’t even have to gameplan for him at all.

 

This offense needs someone who strikes fear into opposing teams

[folz]

I'd be fine running it back with Motor, Cook, and Hines. It's not like we are going to turn into a run team all of a sudden. We are still going to live or die by the pass. And at this point, there isn't a significantly better player out there than Devin in FA.

 

Why would we pay more for Sanders or Williams? 

 

Devin: 4 years, 3,151 yards and 16 TDs on 672 carries (4.7 yards/carry); 971 receiving yards, 4 receiving TDs

Sanders: 4 years, 3,708 yards and 20 TDs on 739 carries (5.0 yards/carry); 942 receiving yards, 3 receiving TDs

Williams: 6 years, 3652 yards and 30 TDs on 915 carries (4.0 yards/carry); 1,191 receiving yards, 8 receiving TDs

 

And before you get too excited about Williams' TD total: he had 17 of those TDs this past season. 15 of those 17 TDs came inside the 7-yard line, 12 of 17 came within the 3-yard line (the other two were 13 yards and 51 yards). He wasn't scoring homeruns for Detroit, they were giving him the ball at the three-yard line and he was punching it in.

 

Why should we overpay for either of those guys over keeping Devin? Sanders' stats are marginally better than Motor's, and Williams' stats are worse than Devin's overall. Now, if one of them comes significantly cheaper than Devin, I'm fine making the switch, but otherwise, no thanks.

 

The hope would be that Cook is ready to take the next step and takes over as the #1, Devin is #2, and get Hines more involved (3rd downs, certain packages, etc.). All three of these backs are good catching out of the backfield. I think Dorsey could get creative with these guys, using them more in the passing game (even splitting them out wide at times, etc.). If Cook turns out not to be ready, then Motor is the guy (that we know has a decent floor), with Hines helping more in the passing game.

 

If we bring in Sanders or Williams (at a decent contract) there will probably be a need to make them the #1 or at least make sure to get them their touches. Could this impede Cook's trajectory? Whereas Cook and Devin have known each other since they were kids, Devin is a team-first guy and good mentor. Devin knows our team and offense. That's a lot of pluses, imo, to Motor. And if he comes cheaper (not sure what each guy is expecting), seems a no-brainer to me.

 

Now if Barkley, Jacobs, or Pollard didn't re-sign with their teams, I'd be up for talking free agent running backs. But those guys would obviously be an upgrade. I don't see any upgrades with what is left in free agency.

 

 

P.S. And to add Zeke into the equation. Last 4 years:

                 Zeke (yds/carry; yds/rec)                  Devin (yds/carry; yds/rec)

2019                 4.5; 7.8                                                     5.1; 6.7

2020                 4.0; 6.5                                                    4.4; 7.1

2021                 4.2; 6.1                                                     4.6; 5.7

2022                 3.8; 5.4                                                    4.6; 7.4

Edited March 16, 2023 by folz

[JoPoy88]

1 hour ago, folz said:

I'd be fine running it back with Motor, Cook, and Hines. It's not like we are going to turn into a run team all of a sudden. We are still going to live or die by the pass. And at this point, there isn't a significantly better player out there than Devin in FA.

 

Why would we pay more for Sanders or Williams? 

 

Devin: 4 years, 3,151 yards and 16 TDs on 672 carries (4.7 yards/carry); 971 receiving yards, 4 receiving TDs

Sanders: 4 years, 3,708 yards and 20 TDs on 739 carries (5.0 yards/carry); 942 receiving yards, 3 receiving TDs

Williams: 6 years, 3652 yards and 30 TDs on 915 carries (4.0 yards/carry); 1,191 receiving yards, 8 receiving TDs

 

And before you get too excited about Williams' TD total: he had 17 of those TDs this past season. 15 of those 17 TDs came inside the 7-yard line, 12 of 17 came within the 3-yard line (the other two were 13 yards and 51 yards). He wasn't scoring homeruns for Detroit, they were giving him the ball at the three-yard line and he was punching it in.

 

Why should we overpay for either of those guys over keeping Devin? Sanders' stats are marginally better than Motor's, and Williams' stats are worse than Devin's overall. Now, if one of them comes significantly cheaper than Devin, I'm fine making the switch, but otherwise, no thanks.

 

The hope would be that Cook is ready to take the next step and takes over as the #1, Devin is #2, and get Hines more involved (3rd downs, certain packages, etc.). All three of these backs are good catching out of the backfield. I think Dorsey could get creative with these guys, using them more in the passing game (even splitting them out wide at times, etc.). If Cook turns out not to be ready, then Motor is the guy (that we know has a decent floor), with Hines helping more in the passing game.

 

If we bring in Sanders or Williams (at a decent contract) there will probably be a need to make them the #1 or at least make sure to get them their touches. Could this impede Cook's trajectory? Whereas Cook and Devin have known each other since they were kids, Devin is a team-first guy and good mentor. Devin knows our team and offense. That's a lot of pluses, imo, to Motor. And if he comes cheaper (not sure what each guy is expecting), seems a no-brainer to me.

 

Now if Barkley, Jacobs, or Pollard didn't re-sign with their teams, I'd be up for talking free agent running backs. But those guys would obviously be an upgrade. I don't see any upgrades with what is left in free agency.

 

 

P.S. And to add Zeke into the equation. Last 4 years:

                 Zeke (yds/carry; yds/rec)                  Devin (yds/carry; yds/rec)

2019                 4.5; 7.8                                                     5.1; 6.7

2020                 4.0; 6.5                                                    4.4; 7.1

2021                 4.2; 6.1                                                     4.6; 5.7

2022                 3.8; 5.4                                                    4.6; 7.4

good breakdown 👍. Honestly I don’t know what the answer is at RB. i am hoping it’s a combination of Cook and Hines so they can focus on WR and OL. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

I think we get used by agents because we always flirt with RBs. The thing is Beane has yet to really pull the trigger.