PBF81 Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 5:59 PM, Kiva said: Trade him for a 3rd. Guy is just average and slow for his size. Expand In the playoffs against KC in two games and Cinci, he's logged 3 TFL, 2 QB Hits, and a mere 1 sack. The Chiefs scored on the drive that he logged his sack on. Ironically, those are the highlights, and none of Beane's draft picks on our D has outperformed him in the playoffs, sadly. In 8 total playoff games he's logged 4 TFL, 5 QB Hits, and 2 Sacks. Oddly, to add some perspective, Basham, in his only four playoff games, has logged 2 TFL, 3 QB Hits, and 2 Sacks. on a per game basis that's the same number of TFLs, slightly more QB Hits, and double the sacks. As much as McBeane say that they're tried to create a team that can beat KC, and now presumably Cinci, they've done the exact opposite on D. It is what it is. 1 Quote
frostbitmic Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Has there ever been a player on the 5th year option that didn't say or twit "show me the money" ? 1 Quote
hjnick Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Honestly, I didn't want him anyways. Too light and wasn't dominate enough at Houston. Take his pick and protect Josh Allen... win 48-45 games for all I care. Build the offense. 2 Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 7:23 PM, Casey D said: Can't. It's guaranteed. Expand Can trade him though, that was what I meant 1 Quote
I'm Spartacus Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 The Bills shouldn't fear letting go of under performing players. They gave Darius the boot, and I think it was the right thing to do. 1 2 1 Quote
Simon Says Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 7:23 PM, Casey D said: Can't. It's guaranteed. Expand I assume he meant TRADE Quote
Malazan Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 7:55 PM, I'm Spartacus said: The Bills shouldn't fear letting go of under performing players. They gave Darius the boot, and I think it was the right thing to do. Expand ..but Darius went on to be a domin... err.. nm. 1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 5:48 PM, BillsDiehard said: Interesting...definitely more likely to be traded! Expand "Definitely," in the sense of "it's possible, but probably not"? Yeah, maybe in that sense. Quote
Victory Formation Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 7:19 PM, Magox said: The problem with a trade is value. What if he turns out to be a stud? He has shown stretches of his career that he can be dominant. Then again he’s shown to be rather inconsistent at times. If you trade him it would have to at least be a 2nd rounder, if you can’t get that I’d rather just roll with him another year and hope he has a breakout season in which you could re-sign him then. Expand I would take a 2nd for him but I’d also be willing to take two 3rds as well, even if it meant that we get a 3rd in 2023 and a third in 2024. Buffalo is paying Josh $45M/year and if we want to put a solid roster around him, we need to do a better job accumulating picks both short term and long term. That’s the approach New England took with Tom Brady, so why not do it ourselves? It worked for them. Play the compensation game too while you’re at it. 1 Quote
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Wait a minute. I don't know if it's the wrong tweet, or the wrong Oliver. 🤔 1 1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 7:38 PM, PBF81 said: In the playoffs against KC in two games and Cinci, he's logged 3 TFL, 2 QB Hits, and a mere 1 sack. The Chiefs scored on the drive that he logged his sack on. Expand You're blaming Oliver - or desperately trying, anyway - for the fact that the Chiefs scored on the drive that he got his sack? That says far more about you than about Oliver. It says you don't like the guy and you're willing to use even illogical arguments to attack him. Oliver's been one of the Bills top five or six players this year. He's also gotten better each year. Certainly not impossible, almost nothing is, but if it happens it will leave a massive hole they can't fill right now. 2 1 Quote
Momma Pecoraro Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Oliver is underwhelming. Move him along little doggie, and spend on body armor or ammo for Josh. scoring is the new improved defense. Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 6:55 PM, HappyDays said: My guess is his post had nothing to do with his contract at all and he only deleted it because his agent told him how it looks. Athletes have a life outside of football. Expand What else might he be talking about? Quote
Milanos Milano Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 9:46 PM, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Wait a minute. I don't know if it's the wrong tweet, or the wrong Oliver. 🤔 Expand Tweet, twist same difference. Quote
GolfandBills Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 6:55 PM, HappyDays said: My guess is his post had nothing to do with his contract at all and he only deleted it because his agent told him how it looks. Athletes have a life outside of football. Expand You’re probably right. I bet he was at the bank and got angry at a teller Quote
Goin Breakdown Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 He's not so good that we couldn't replace him with any middle of the road player that is going to be just as meh. Quote
HappyDays Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 9:55 PM, Mr. WEO said: What else might he be talking about? Expand Anything. Show me the money doesn't always literally mean "show me the money." He could be talking about a girl he's trying to hook up with. Young people post random crap on social media everyday. I don't even know what about his contract he could be upset about? It's a 5th year option, it can't be touched. 1 1 Quote
Airseven Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 Other than Allen and Milano, the entire roster could be shot out of a circus cannon at this point. 1 Quote
SCBills Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 10:05 PM, Airseven said: Other than Allen and Milano, the entire roster could be shot out of a circus cannon at this point. Expand Diggs nonstop commentary.. Oliver deleted tweets.. This is what happens when you keep falling short.. The culture is great, until it’s not. I still think it’s a great locker room, comparatively, but it certainly seems time for a shake up type of off-season. This group has fallen short 3x in a row. It’s time to shuffle the deck. 1 2 Quote
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 11, 2023 Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 10:14 PM, SCBills said: Diggs nonstop commentary.. Oliver deleted tweets.. This is what happens when you keep falling short.. The culture is great, until it’s not. I still think it’s a great locker room, comparatively, but it certainly seems time for a shake up type of off-season. This group has fallen short 3x in a row. It’s time to shuffle the deck. Expand I think yhe Bills are going to have a disappointing year this year. I am prepared for it. Poor dafting/fa capital has set the team back and its really starting to catch up with them now. Jmo of course Quote
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