Firearm Deaths Are The Leading Cause Of Death Of Children In United States

[Tommy Callahan]

This only holds true due to gang violence and upping the age yo 19.  Why won't the Dems do anything about the gun violence on their strongholds.  Where they defund police and are soft on the criminals. 

[ArdmoreRyno]

2 hours ago, Chris farley said:

This only holds true due to gang violence and upping the age yo 19.  Why won't the Dems do anything about the gun violence on their strongholds.  Where they defund police and are soft on the criminals. 

 

Imagine if gang violence in cities like Chicago, St Louis, New Orleans (and area), Little Rock, Baltimore, Memphis, etc. managed to get rid of their presence? 

 

Our gun violence numbers in this country would go down by 80% (at least). But liberals turn a blind eye to all the gang shootings.

[Tiberius]

28 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Imagine if gang violence in cities like Chicago, St Louis, New Orleans (and area), Little Rock, Baltimore, Memphis, etc. managed to get rid of their presence? 

 

Our gun violence numbers in this country would go down by 80% (at least). But liberals turn a blind eye to all the gang shootings.

Rural communities are experiencing high rates of gun violence

From 2016 to 2020, the two U.S. counties to experience the most gun homicides per capita were rural:* (see Figure 1)

Phillips County, Arkansas: 55.45 age-adjusted homicides per 100,000 people

Lowndes County, Alabama: 48.36 age-adjusted homicides per 100,000 people**

From 2016 to 2020, 13 of the 20 U.S. counties with the most gun homicides per capita were rural: (see Figure 1)

80 percent of these 20 counties are in states that received an “F” grade for their weak gun laws, according to Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence’s 2021 annual state scorecard rankings.

In 2020, the total gun death rate for rural communities—when age-adjusted per 100,000 people—was 40 percent higher than it was for large metropolitan areas.

 

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-in-rural-america/

[ArdmoreRyno]

Just now, Tiberius said:

Rural communities are experiencing high rates of gun violence

From 2016 to 2020, the two U.S. counties to experience the most gun homicides per capita were rural:* (see Figure 1)

Phillips County, Arkansas: 55.45 age-adjusted homicides per 100,000 people

Lowndes County, Alabama: 48.36 age-adjusted homicides per 100,000 people**

From 2016 to 2020, 13 of the 20 U.S. counties with the most gun homicides per capita were rural: (see Figure 1)

80 percent of these 20 counties are in states that received an “F” grade for their weak gun laws, according to Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence’s 2021 annual state scorecard rankings.

In 2020, the total gun death rate for rural communities—when age-adjusted per 100,000 people—was 40 percent higher than it was for large metropolitan areas.

 

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-in-rural-america/

 

Phillips County, Arkansas (62% black)

Lowndes County, Alabama (69.3% black and there are WHITE gangs as well in that area)

 

[Tiberius]

4 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Phillips County, Arkansas (62% black)

Lowndes County, Alabama (69.3% black and there are WHITE gangs as well in that area)

 

And that makes it ok! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Southern and Midwestern states with loose gun laws and large rural populations have contributed to a rise in gun homicides

Southern and Midwestern states—such as Arizona, Arkansas, and Missouri—have drastically contributed to the more than 100-fold relative increase in gun homicide rates from 2014 to 2019:

Rural areas in Arizona and North Carolina have outpaced their large metropolitan counterparts; in fact, gun homicide rates in rural Arizona were 14 percent higher than they were in the state’s large metropolitan areas from 2016 to 2020. (see Figure 2)

Gun homicide rates in rural North Carolina were 76 percent higher than they were in large North Carolina metropolitan areas from 2016 to 2020. (see Figure 3)

[ArdmoreRyno]

3 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

And that makes it ok! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Southern and Midwestern states with loose gun laws and large rural populations have contributed to a rise in gun homicides

Southern and Midwestern states—such as Arizona, Arkansas, and Missouri—have drastically contributed to the more than 100-fold relative increase in gun homicide rates from 2014 to 2019:

Rural areas in Arizona and North Carolina have outpaced their large metropolitan counterparts; in fact, gun homicide rates in rural Arizona were 14 percent higher than they were in the state’s large metropolitan areas from 2016 to 2020. (see Figure 2)

Gun homicide rates in rural North Carolina were 76 percent higher than they were in large North Carolina metropolitan areas from 2016 to 2020. (see Figure 3)

 

Let me ask... if we could Thanos this and make gangs disappear overnight, where do you think our gun violence numbers would be for 2023? Say we are on pace for 20,000 gun murders. What do you think it would be w/o gang violence? 

 

 

 

 

[Tiberius]

7 minutes ago, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Let me ask... if we could Thanos this and make gangs disappear overnight, where do you think our gun violence numbers would be for 2023? Say we are on pace for 20,000 gun murders. What do you think it would be w/o gang violence? 

 

 

 

 

Gang violence is fueled by easy access to guns. 

 

Mexico banned guns but the country is awash in guns because it's so easy to get them here. Guns are wrecking Mexico. 

[ArdmoreRyno]

2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Gang violence is fueled by easy access to guns. 

 

Mexico banned guns but the country is awash in guns because it's so easy to get them here. Guns are wrecking Mexico. 

 

Didn't answer the question Tibs.

[Big Blitz]

Neither are guns.  

[Tiberius]

 

 

[aristocrat]

2 hours ago, SUNY_amherst said:

Ball rolls into the neighbors yard, a 6 year old and her dad go to get it and the neighbor comes out blasting… saw that on the news yesterday 

Felon in possession of handgun. He was black neighbors were white. Probably won’t see it on the news again 

12 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Rural communities are experiencing high rates of gun violence

From 2016 to 2020, the two U.S. counties to experience the most gun homicides per capita were rural:* (see Figure 1)

Phillips County, Arkansas: 55.45 age-adjusted homicides per 100,000 people

Lowndes County, Alabama: 48.36 age-adjusted homicides per 100,000 people**

From 2016 to 2020, 13 of the 20 U.S. counties with the most gun homicides per capita were rural: (see Figure 1)

80 percent of these 20 counties are in states that received an “F” grade for their weak gun laws, according to Giffords Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence’s 2021 annual state scorecard rankings.

In 2020, the total gun death rate for rural communities—when age-adjusted per 100,000 people—was 40 percent higher than it was for large metropolitan areas.

 

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/gun-violence-in-rural-america/

phillips county has 16k people and the Alabama county has 10,000 people.

 

https://www.kark.com/crime/phillips-county-deputies-searching-for-man-in-murder-case/amp/

 

https://katv.com/amp/news/local/arrest-made-in-2017-phillips-county-homicide-second-suspect-sought

 

they have a couple murders and the percentages sky rockets

[Andy1]

There is a strong correlation between gun violence and poverty. Most people think of poverty in urban areas, but rural poverty is real too. It’s just not as visible to most people.
https://cepr.net/poverty-correlates-with-the-recent-increase-in-gun-violence/

 

[Tommy Callahan]

6 hours ago, Andy1 said:

There is a strong correlation between gun violence and poverty. Most people think of poverty in urban areas, but rural poverty is real too. It’s just not as visible to most people.
https://cepr.net/poverty-correlates-with-the-recent-increase-in-gun-violence/

 

It's a think tank arguing for more social spending to poor areas.  NY kinda proves that doesn't work as we have been doing it for decades 

[Irv]

Total lie. 

[Tommy Callahan]

12 hours ago, SUNY_amherst said:

Ball rolls into the neighbors yard, a 6 year old and her dad go to get it and the neighbor comes out blasting… saw that on the news yesterday 

you wont see much of it now cause it doesn't fit the narrative.  and they finally coughs him in Florida.

 

 

Edited April 21, 2023 by Chris farley

[All_Pro_Bills]

8 hours ago, Andy1 said:

There is a strong correlation between gun violence and poverty. Most people think of poverty in urban areas, but rural poverty is real too. It’s just not as visible to most people.
https://cepr.net/poverty-correlates-with-the-recent-increase-in-gun-violence/

 

That'd an interesting observation.  But why is there a correlation?  A while back I researched the topic of poverty as it relates to providing specific social services to the poor.  And insights I derived from the study was simple yet very impactful.  First, its not all about income level.  Poor people do not think about life or process information in the same way as people that might be categorized as the middle class.  No more than a middle class person processes like the same way a wealthy person would view things.  That's one reason why programs designed by a middle or upper class person generally fail to deliver the program in a manner that will be receptive to people in poverty.

 

I'd say the biggest factor correlating gun violence with poverty is not a lack of money but rather the poor don't think about the future too much or the consequences of actions.  Like shooting somebody or knocking up their girlfriend.  The reasons for this are pretty clear.  When you live day to day or paycheck to paycheck or on public assistance the future is irrelevant.  Planning to send your kids to college 15 years from now?  That isn't even a thought.  Survival and getting through today is all that matters.  Programs that just hand out money to people in poverty without changing their basic mindset and thought processes about how to succeed in life are not going to have any impact on lowering levels of violence.  And programs rarely if ever even acknowledge the person's thought process might be a problem too.  

 

 

 

[Tommy Callahan]

2 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:

That'd an interesting observation.  But why is there a correlation?  A while back I researched the topic of poverty as it relates to providing specific social services to the poor.  And insights I derived from the study was simple yet very impactful.  First, its not all about income level.  Poor people do not think about life or process information in the same way as people that might be categorized as the middle class.  No more than a middle class person processes like the same way a wealthy person would view things.  That's one reason why programs designed by a middle or upper class person generally fail to deliver the program in a manner that will be receptive to people in poverty.

 

I'd say the biggest factor correlating gun violence with poverty is not a lack of money but rather the poor don't think about the future too much or the consequences of actions.  Like shooting somebody or knocking up their girlfriend.  The reasons for this are pretty clear.  When you live day to day or paycheck to paycheck or on public assistance the future is irrelevant.  Planning to send your kids to college 15 years from now?  That isn't even a thought.  Survival and getting through today is all that matters.  Programs that just hand out money to people in poverty without changing their basic mindset and thought processes about how to succeed in life are not going to have any impact on lowering levels of violence.  And programs rarely if ever even acknowledge the person's thought process might be a problem too.  

 

 

 

good points. would also add the amount of research involving one parent households and the same correlation to crime.   And agree that in poverty areas, the mindset is surviving. Its not even in the psych to think of the future as many don't believe they have any.  Mariage or two parent households are a fine at that level.

Mariage shows the income of both parents and disqualifies people for subsidized housing, HEAP, SNAP, Child Care connections and so many other programs.  And if you are married but at that income, one doesn't get those benefits and just moves into the working poor demographic.  where one makes to much for any help, but not enough to get out of week to week living.

 

 

 

 

[LeviF]

8 hours ago, Andy1 said:

There is a strong correlation between gun violence and poverty. Most people think of poverty in urban areas, but rural poverty is real too. It’s just not as visible to most people.
https://cepr.net/poverty-correlates-with-the-recent-increase-in-gun-violence/

 

 

 

Cue Jaws music

[Tiberius]

On 4/20/2023 at 9:41 AM, ArdmoreRyno said:

 

Didn't answer the question Tibs.

About gangs just simply disappearing? Wonder why I didn't answer...huh...

[ArdmoreRyno]

7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

About gangs just simply disappearing? Wonder why I didn't answer...huh...

 

Yea, do you think our gun violence numbers would decrease by 50% or more?