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I've always thought comp picks were BS. If the NFL is going to have it, no team should get more then 2 picks & the higher you finished in the playoffs the lower the pick should be.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’ll never understand compensatory picks.

 

It's simple: If you are the Buffalo Bills, subtract 25 from whatever number you should get, if the NFL followed its own rules, and that's how many we end up with. 

 

It's a system built in the TB12 lab, and baptized with certain fluids from a Jupiter, Florida establishment of ill repute...

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I'll repute is not a thing, Autoincorrect....
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20 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is pretty simple. 

 

I did an explainer last year. Will try and dig it out. In its simplest form it is about the AAV of the deal your free agents sign (both incoming and outgoing). 

If it’s simple how come we don’t know the picks awarded until the NFL announces them? Shouldn’t we be able to mathematically determine what picks each team is getting earlier?

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9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

If it’s simple how come we don’t know the picks awarded until the NFL announces them? Shouldn’t we be able to mathematically determine what picks each team is getting earlier?


Yes you can have a general idea. The only real hold up is getting the financial thresholds for each round every year because it adjusts. The people who follow this stuff knew we weren’t going to get any months ago. 

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Just now, gonzo1105 said:


Yes you can have a general idea. The only real hold up is getting the financial thresholds for each round every year because it adjusts. The people who follow this stuff knew we weren’t going to get any months ago. 

I always went off of lost vs gained and money spent vs money lost. I guess snaps gained and snaps lost also figures into it.

 

I guess you can’t really predict snaps because of injuries.


I still don’t understand the calculations fully but oh well.

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Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I always went off of lost vs gained and money spent vs money lost. I guess snaps gained and snaps lost also figures into it.

 

I guess you can’t really predict snaps because of injuries.


I still don’t understand the calculations fully but oh well.


There is no snaps played, Pro Bowls etc. Thsts folk lore from before people figured out compensatory picks and talking heads would just spout it as fact. It’s literally gained/lost not matter who the player. Contract negation on like average per year salaries. More lost than signed. Eligible for picks. What threshold do the eligible picks meet and comp picks 

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1 minute ago, gonzo1105 said:


There is no snaps played, Pro Bowls etc. Thsts folk lore from before people figured out compensatory picks and talking heads would just spout it as fact. It’s literally gained/lost not matter who the player. Contract negation on like average per year salaries. More lost than signed. Eligible for picks. What threshold do the eligible picks meet and comp picks 

So how does Von Miller’s monster contract only net a 5th?

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11 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

So how does Von Miller’s monster contract only net a 5th?


I actually just read and learned that players with 10 accrued season who receive mega contracts like Millers can receive a maximum of a 5th round pick. Learned something new today 

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2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

I’ll never understand compensatory picks.


The only thing I truly understand about comp picks is that Buffalo never gets anything other than a 7th and it only happens every 17 years like the cicada life cycle.

 

52 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I don't understand compensatory picks. I don't understand dead cap. I don't understand what's a catch anymore. I don't understand how wind can be confused. I don't understand why we didn't pooch with :13.  I really don't understand why we don't help Josh.


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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It is pretty simple. 

 

I did an explainer last year. Will try and dig it out. In its simplest form it is about the AAV of the deal your free agents sign (both incoming and outgoing). 

I want to read that. 

As an example, why did SF get so many picks for lost coordinators whereas we got none for losing Daboll. 

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2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said:


It’s not hard. If you gain more Free Agents then you lose you get nothing. If you lose more Free Agents and then you sign you’re eligible for that amount of comp picks. Then they take like salaries of players gained/lost and take them out of the equation leaving two guys you get picks on. 
 

Over the cap is like 95% accurate and make it very easy to learn 

That’s not entirely true

 

SF got 2 of their 3 3rd round picks for losing minority coaches to other teams. 
 

Saleh and McDaniel qualified as minority coaches. 
 

I’m sort of hoping that Bills ask Daboll to take a 23 and me test. I did and found out I’m 1.2% Native American. If Daboll turned out to be 1% minority, would Bills get a retroactive 3rd round pick?
 

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Just now, pennstate10 said:

That’s not entirely true

 

SF got 2 of their 3 3rd round picks for losing minority coaches to other teams. 
 

Saleh and McDaniel qualified as minority coaches. 
 

I’m sort of hoping that Bills ask Daboll to take a 23 and me test. I did and found out I’m 1.2% Native American. If Daboll turned out to be 1% minority, would Bills get a retroactive 3rd round pick?
 


look at my previous post I said you can get up to 4 picks for PLAYERS. I then stated SF got 4 for players and 3 for coaches. All minority coaches are 3rds so figured it didn’t need to be explained 

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1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

We never get comp pics.

 

How does SF  get 7 !?!?

 

IKR? They had three comp picks for minority hires. I am still.annoyed not a single team has hired Frazier, despite his highly-ranked defenses. Where are our picks? We sowed the seeds, but no reward. 

2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I did an explainer last year. Will try and dig it out. In its simplest form it is about the AAV of the deal your free agents sign (both incoming and outgoing). 

 

Awesome. If you happen to find it, post the info or link here! People want to learn.

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1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

If it’s simple how come we don’t know the picks awarded until the NFL announces them? Shouldn’t we be able to mathematically determine what picks each team is getting earlier?

 

We can. Over the cap does a tracker. 

1 hour ago, Fan in Chicago said:

I want to read that. 

As an example, why did SF get so many picks for lost coordinators whereas we got none for losing Daboll. 

 

Ha that bit is simple. I hate that rule too. I don't think the Rooney rule is working but that change made it no better.

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