1st&ten Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 I've always thought comp picks were BS. If the NFL is going to have it, no team should get more then 2 picks & the higher you finished in the playoffs the lower the pick should be. 1 1 Quote
ROCBillsBeliever Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) On 3/10/2023 at 6:20 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: I’ll never understand compensatory picks. Expand It's simple: If you are the Buffalo Bills, subtract 25 from whatever number you should get, if the NFL followed its own rules, and that's how many we end up with. It's a system built in the TB12 lab, and baptized with certain fluids from a Jupiter, Florida establishment of ill repute... Edited March 10, 2023 by ROCBillsBeliever I'll repute is not a thing, Autoincorrect.... 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 7:22 PM, GunnerBill said: It is pretty simple. I did an explainer last year. Will try and dig it out. In its simplest form it is about the AAV of the deal your free agents sign (both incoming and outgoing). Expand If it’s simple how come we don’t know the picks awarded until the NFL announces them? Shouldn’t we be able to mathematically determine what picks each team is getting earlier? Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) On 3/10/2023 at 7:44 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: If it’s simple how come we don’t know the picks awarded until the NFL announces them? Shouldn’t we be able to mathematically determine what picks each team is getting earlier? Expand Yes you can have a general idea. The only real hold up is getting the financial thresholds for each round every year because it adjusts. The people who follow this stuff knew we weren’t going to get any months ago. Edited March 10, 2023 by gonzo1105 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 7:53 PM, gonzo1105 said: Yes you can have a general idea. The only real hold up is getting the financial thresholds for each round every year because it adjusts. The people who follow this stuff knew we weren’t going to get any months ago. Expand I always went off of lost vs gained and money spent vs money lost. I guess snaps gained and snaps lost also figures into it. I guess you can’t really predict snaps because of injuries. I still don’t understand the calculations fully but oh well. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 7:58 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: I always went off of lost vs gained and money spent vs money lost. I guess snaps gained and snaps lost also figures into it. I guess you can’t really predict snaps because of injuries. I still don’t understand the calculations fully but oh well. Expand There is no snaps played, Pro Bowls etc. Thsts folk lore from before people figured out compensatory picks and talking heads would just spout it as fact. It’s literally gained/lost not matter who the player. Contract negation on like average per year salaries. More lost than signed. Eligible for picks. What threshold do the eligible picks meet and comp picks Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 8:02 PM, gonzo1105 said: There is no snaps played, Pro Bowls etc. Thsts folk lore from before people figured out compensatory picks and talking heads would just spout it as fact. It’s literally gained/lost not matter who the player. Contract negation on like average per year salaries. More lost than signed. Eligible for picks. What threshold do the eligible picks meet and comp picks Expand So how does Von Miller’s monster contract only net a 5th? Quote
Milanos Milano Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 7:33 PM, nedboy7 said: We still suck? Expand Do you see a super bowl champ banner at the stadium? We suck until we bring it home. 13-3 is just a really good team that failed. Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) On 3/10/2023 at 8:06 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: So how does Von Miller’s monster contract only net a 5th? Expand I actually just read and learned that players with 10 accrued season who receive mega contracts like Millers can receive a maximum of a 5th round pick. Learned something new today Edited March 10, 2023 by gonzo1105 1 Quote
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 6:45 PM, IronMaidenBills said: That’s ok, neither does our Bills management. It’s why we have sucked for decades. Expand including the last 5 years, amirite? Quote
UConn James Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 6:20 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: I’ll never understand compensatory picks. Expand The only thing I truly understand about comp picks is that Buffalo never gets anything other than a 7th and it only happens every 17 years like the cicada life cycle. On 3/10/2023 at 7:31 PM, LABILLBACKER said: I don't understand compensatory picks. I don't understand dead cap. I don't understand what's a catch anymore. I don't understand how wind can be confused. I don't understand why we didn't pooch with :13. I really don't understand why we don't help Josh. Expand Quote
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 We never get comp pics. How does SF get 7 !?!? 1 1 Quote
Fan in Chicago Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 7:22 PM, GunnerBill said: It is pretty simple. I did an explainer last year. Will try and dig it out. In its simplest form it is about the AAV of the deal your free agents sign (both incoming and outgoing). Expand I want to read that. As an example, why did SF get so many picks for lost coordinators whereas we got none for losing Daboll. Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 8:36 PM, Fan in Chicago said: I want to read that. As an example, why did SF get so many picks for lost coordinators whereas we got none for losing Daboll. Expand Daboll is more black than Mike McDaniels! 3 Quote
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 I think they made a mistake and switched SF and Cheats comp picks... Also we lost Leslie Frasier should get a 1st next year Quote
pennstate10 Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 6:34 PM, gonzo1105 said: It’s not hard. If you gain more Free Agents then you lose you get nothing. If you lose more Free Agents and then you sign you’re eligible for that amount of comp picks. Then they take like salaries of players gained/lost and take them out of the equation leaving two guys you get picks on. Over the cap is like 95% accurate and make it very easy to learn Expand That’s not entirely true SF got 2 of their 3 3rd round picks for losing minority coaches to other teams. Saleh and McDaniel qualified as minority coaches. I’m sort of hoping that Bills ask Daboll to take a 23 and me test. I did and found out I’m 1.2% Native American. If Daboll turned out to be 1% minority, would Bills get a retroactive 3rd round pick? Quote
gonzo1105 Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 9:21 PM, pennstate10 said: That’s not entirely true SF got 2 of their 3 3rd round picks for losing minority coaches to other teams. Saleh and McDaniel qualified as minority coaches. I’m sort of hoping that Bills ask Daboll to take a 23 and me test. I did and found out I’m 1.2% Native American. If Daboll turned out to be 1% minority, would Bills get a retroactive 3rd round pick? Expand look at my previous post I said you can get up to 4 picks for PLAYERS. I then stated SF got 4 for players and 3 for coaches. All minority coaches are 3rds so figured it didn’t need to be explained Quote
chongli Posted March 10, 2023 Author Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) On 3/10/2023 at 8:32 PM, Buffalo Barbarian said: We never get comp pics. How does SF get 7 !?!? Expand IKR? They had three comp picks for minority hires. I am still.annoyed not a single team has hired Frazier, despite his highly-ranked defenses. Where are our picks? We sowed the seeds, but no reward. On 3/10/2023 at 7:22 PM, GunnerBill said: I did an explainer last year. Will try and dig it out. In its simplest form it is about the AAV of the deal your free agents sign (both incoming and outgoing). Expand Awesome. If you happen to find it, post the info or link here! People want to learn. Edited March 10, 2023 by chongli 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/10/2023 at 7:44 PM, Buffalo_Stampede said: If it’s simple how come we don’t know the picks awarded until the NFL announces them? Shouldn’t we be able to mathematically determine what picks each team is getting earlier? Expand We can. Over the cap does a tracker. On 3/10/2023 at 8:36 PM, Fan in Chicago said: I want to read that. As an example, why did SF get so many picks for lost coordinators whereas we got none for losing Daboll. Expand Ha that bit is simple. I hate that rule too. I don't think the Rooney rule is working but that change made it no better. Quote
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