ColoradoBills Posted March 6, 2023 Author Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 10:29 PM, BarleyNY said: That’s rough. I don’t think KC makes it to the SB without Clark. He was huge in the Cincy game. Expand @Zerovoltzhad a good reply. I think most people don't understand where I personally am coming from. I think the Chiefs are handling the cap (which is real) in a pretty good way the last few years. They are moving prominent guys in and out at what appears to be the right pace (and time). Something Bills fans will need to get used to. They also are taking advantage of their success to bring in some players that a trying to use them to get bigger contracts. The Juju move last year was real good. Not sure if they re-sign him. All these things I watch with some interest. After some of my discussions earlier today, let me end with this. The Chiefs (unfortunately) seem to have a good system. Beane no doubt is watching them closely. Teams Beane shouldn't be watching are teams like the Saints. They are flailing like two girls fighting in the school yard. 1 Quote
Zerovoltz Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 10:41 PM, ColoradoBills said: @Zerovoltzhad a good reply. I think most people don't understand where I personally am coming from. I think the Chiefs are handling the cap (which is real) in a pretty good way the last few years. They are moving prominent guys in and out at what appears to be the right pace (and time). Something Bills fans will need to get used to. They also are taking advantage of their success to bring in some players that a trying to use them to get bigger contracts. The Juju move last year was real good. Not sure if they re-sign him. All these things I watch with some interest. After some of my discussions earlier today, let me end with this. The Chiefs (unfortunately) seem to have a good system. Beane no doubt is watching them closely. Teams Beane shouldn't be watching are teams like the Saints. They are flailing like two girls fighting in the school yard. Expand I don't want to say 100 percent NO, but I beleive they are content to let JuJu move on...they have MVS under contract for 2 more seasons and I THINK...just my opinion, speculation ,that they feel like they could bring in another similar player to JuJu on a similar deal and get that same production. Nothing against JuJu...he was fine whille he was here...he's going to make some money and for the rest of his life, he is a super bowl champion...not bad. KC just doesn't need to pay him...he's not special is all. 1 Quote
ColoradoBills Posted March 6, 2023 Author Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 10:33 PM, BillsFan2313 said: He was cut because he didnt want to restructure Expand He was on his last year of his contract. He no doubt wanted longer terms that KC was unwilling to give. KC is probably smart just saying let's part ways instead of having a disgruntled player on his last year. Sometimes trying to get a trade is not worth it. They may get a comp pick for him next draft anyways. 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 I’m sure they’ll have a plan You can hate it and I do, but they know how to run an organization We need to be mimicking some of the moves that they have done Quote
MrEpsYtown Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 Side note but the bill is going to come due in Cincinnati too. And their owner is still a renowned cheapskate. The have yet to pay Burrow, Chase, Higgins. They are set maybe lose Mixon and maybe Perine. They have Hendrickson for 2 more years, Dj Reader for 1. Tyler Boyd, Awuzie, Collins have 1 more year. They are set to lose Germaine Pratt, Von Bell, Jessie Bates this year and Logan Wilson is a free agent after next year. They have to decide what to do with Jonah Williams. Their window is probably this year and maybe next. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted March 6, 2023 Author Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 10:45 PM, Zerovoltz said: I don't want to say 100 percent NO, but I beleive they are content to let JuJu move on...they have MVS under contract for 2 more seasons and I THINK...just my opinion, speculation ,that they feel like they could bring in another similar player to JuJu on a similar deal and get that same production. Nothing against JuJu...he was fine whille he was here...he's going to make some money and for the rest of his life, he is a super bowl champion...not bad. KC just doesn't need to pay him...he's not special is all. Expand My interest in all this (along with the Tyreek Hill trade) is some speculation on my part, but I'll say it. It seems to me they a following a bit of the Pats* scheme with Brady. Role the higher priced WR out and bring in the ring hunters or guys looking to put up number for a bigger contract. With Mahomes (and I personally believe Allen), this is not a bad thing to consider. Don't pay RBs big money and have a game changing TE. Put a decent line in front of your "elite" QB and let him play. FWIW. 2 3 Quote
Zerovoltz Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 10:50 PM, ColoradoBills said: My interest in all this (along with the Tyreek Hill trade) is some speculation on my part, but I'll say it. It seems to me they a following a bit of the Pats* scheme with Brady. Role the higher priced WR out and bring in the ring hunters or guys looking to put up number for a bigger contract. With Mahomes (and I personally believe Allen), this is not a bad thing to consider. Don't pay RBs big money and have a game changing TE. Put a decent line in front of your "elite" QB and let him play. FWIW. Expand I completely agree! 1 Quote
T master Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 9:33 PM, BADOLBILZ said: Clark is officially in the Jerry Hughes/Justin Houston/Melvin Ingram stage of his career............that's $5M for one year level........not anywhere close to the $21M. Speaking of Houston........wouldn't be surprised to see him return to KC. Expand Thats why they should bring Jerry back for 1 last year at a very good contract & he could retire a Bill - his stats last year 9 sacks, 2 FF, 1 INT, 35 Tackles that would be welcome on the Defense plus for a small contract . 1 Quote
BarleyNY Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 10:41 PM, ColoradoBills said: @Zerovoltzhad a good reply. I think most people don't understand where I personally am coming from. I think the Chiefs are handling the cap (which is real) in a pretty good way the last few years. They are moving prominent guys in and out at what appears to be the right pace (and time). Something Bills fans will need to get used to. They also are taking advantage of their success to bring in some players that a trying to use them to get bigger contracts. The Juju move last year was real good. Not sure if they re-sign him. All these things I watch with some interest. After some of my discussions earlier today, let me end with this. The Chiefs (unfortunately) seem to have a good system. Beane no doubt is watching them closely. Teams Beane shouldn't be watching are teams like the Saints. They are flailing like two girls fighting in the school yard. Expand Yup. I was speaking to the realities of the business side of the NFL. Cold blooded move. Of course we knew KC had the wherewithal to operate that way after the Tyreek trade. Quote
ColoradoBills Posted March 6, 2023 Author Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 11:00 PM, BarleyNY said: Yup. I was speaking to the realities of the business side of the NFL. Cold blooded move. Of course we knew KC had the wherewithal to operate that way after the Tyreek trade. Expand I can see that from one perspective it's "cold blooded" BUT in a way I'm sure Frank Clark (who is still 29) is glad he is now able to find a team he feels comfortable with (instead of being traded to one he doesn't) and gets one more good-paying contract. I for one do not believe this bull that he has "lost his game" and is done in the NFL. They mutually parted ways due to both having different objectives. Quote
NewEra Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 10:29 PM, BarleyNY said: That’s rough. I don’t think KC makes it to the SB without Clark. He was huge in the Cincy game. Expand He really had a great playoff- again. I think he has 13.5 sacks in something like 17 or so playoff games! 1 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 10:58 PM, T master said: Thats why they should bring Jerry back for 1 last year at a very good contract & he could retire a Bill - his stats last year 9 sacks, 2 FF, 1 INT, 35 Tackles that would be welcome on the Defense plus for a small contract . Expand Houston has him on a favorable deal in 2023.........and Houston is home for him so I don't think he's going anywhere. 1 Quote
T master Posted March 6, 2023 Posted March 6, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 11:33 PM, BADOLBILZ said: Houston has him on a favorable deal in 2023.........and Houston is home for him so I don't think he's going anywhere. Expand Oh got you I didn't know he had a multi year deal . I just always liked Jerry & thought he was actually playing good but there wasn't any body else to really worry about but with him on one side & Von on the other it could be like when he played opposite Mario . By getting 9 sacks it says he's not terrible that's 1 better than Groot last season . I know it's a pipe dream but he gave the Bills a lot of good years i'd like to see him win some with this team seeing as he gave so much to it in the time he was here . 1 Quote
John from Riverside Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 Bringing Justin Houston give him a little bit of a sweetener so that he picks us over another team like the Chiefs. He’s still productive and would fit great into our rotation. Quote
Success Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 It's interesting - I actually think the team that won the SB this past year was the weakest of their "dynasty" era. But the stars aligned at the right time for them. Of course, they'll continue to be a force - but I'm more worried about Cincy this coming season, and even a team like the Jets if they get a good QB. Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 Can you imagine if the Bills let their top OL test the market? Quote
Zerovoltz Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 On 3/7/2023 at 1:13 AM, TheyCallMeAndy said: Can you imagine if the Bills let their top OL test the market? Expand If you are implying that Orlando Brown is Kc's top OLineman, then you've made a mistake. He's 4 out of 5. Quote
Solomon Grundy Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 10:58 PM, T master said: Thats why they should bring Jerry back for 1 last year at a very good contract & he could retire a Bill - his stats last year 9 sacks, 2 FF, 1 INT, 35 Tackles that would be welcome on the Defense plus for a small contract . Expand Was Jerry Hughes released?? Quote
The Jokeman Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 9:27 PM, ColoradoBills said: Every team has issues with cap. Even the SB winners. https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/chiefs-frank-clark-expected-to-be-released-by-chiefs/ Heard the Orland Brown news on NFLN. Expand And Chris Jones wants to be at least the 2nd highest DT in the NFL. https://nfltraderumors.co/chris-jones-seeking-to-be-no-2-highest-paid-dt/ Quote
Mr. WEO Posted March 7, 2023 Posted March 7, 2023 On 3/6/2023 at 9:39 PM, Zerovoltz said: I am excited to see what they do....it will be hard to put 2 new guys in worse than the 2 they are moving on from at OT Expand You mean they didn't have the best O-line in the NFL? On 3/6/2023 at 10:29 PM, BarleyNY said: That’s rough. I don’t think KC makes it to the SB without Clark. He was huge in the Cincy game. Expand We read that a lot here last year about Tyreek Hill Quote
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