Bills!Win! Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: Again, sounds a lot like yall are looking for reasons to be upset. He left after the game, and the season, were over. There was nothing left to do, except... what? Hold hands in the locker room and say "lets try again next year" after 99% of the team just acted like THEY didnt want to be there? Watching that Cincy game it is clear that Diggs is one of maybe 3 players that DID want to be there, and actually came to play. I'm more concerned with the rest of the team that quit on him. Are the other 2 Milano and Allen? Quote
Einstein Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, NewEra said: You put the same colored tint on every post you make. They’re all the same. You can pretend that you’re making sense but we all know this is just what you do in every post you make. Some people want to live in objective reality. What is actually happening. Others want to live in a reality they’ve made that is more comfortable to them. Roses and butterflies. Neither choice is wrong, but only one choice is true. 1 Quote
Aussie Joe Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 16 hours ago, MPL said: Diggs leaving Paris tomorrow. Diggs sad about it. Diggs potentially wanting to be traded to Paris Saint-Germain Football Club? It’s just business… don’t take it personal. Edited March 9, 2023 by Aussie Joe 2 Quote
NewEra Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Some people want to live in objective reality. What is actually happening. Others want to live in a reality they’ve made that is more comfortable to them. Roses and butterflies. Neither choice is wrong, but only one choice is true. What is happening: we traded for an elite WR that has an elite chip on his shoulder. A WR tends to react differently than most. A WR that has been outspoken in the past and hasn’t stopped since. A WR that has made it known that he won’t accept losing. we knew all of this. Nothing has changed. This is the guy that we traded for. A guy that has been a tremendous teammate, friend and leader. A guy that transformed our locker room and helped transform the team from playoff caliber to championship caliber. A guy that has had trouble dealing with his emotions in moments of defeat and pain. A guy that we know has had trouble dealing with his emotions in moments of defeat and pain. He did something that many expected him to do because that’s what he does….. it’s nothing new. It’s part of who he is. I’ve known this and accepted that that’s who Diggs is. That’s him. That’s always been him. Maybe you’re finally coming around to accepting the fact that he isn’t the perfect leader. Or maybe you already knew that but just wouldn’t feel right if you didn’t chime in with your ever present tint. He’s him. Always has been. Always will be. Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Einstein said: It sounds like you just want to make an excuse for anyone with a Buffalo on their helmet. What’s left to do is be a captain and a teammate. A leader doesn’t abandon their team after a season ending loss because they’re mad. They rise above and are there for their teammates. Reporters who have been following the team for decades said they’ve never seen a player do that before. This is the same guy that stood on the field after the Chiefs playoff loss and wanted to watch them celebrate so he would have extra motivation to win it all next year. He went from that, to now he’s leaving the stadium before the coaches even get to the locker room? You can make excuses if you want but it’s not normal and it’s not a captain move. I literally said 50 out of 53 of the Bills players didnt show up and I am condemning them. So nah, no excuses just because theyre Bills. I just look at this situation like any adult should and not through the lens of middle school social media. You all are reading too much into it. Way more than any of the actual players, who are the ones who really matter. 1 hour ago, Bills!Win! said: Are the other 2 Milano and Allen? Milano and Edmunds. I dont want to bash Josh, but we didnt get Focused Josh let alone Angry Josh who we saw in last year's Kansas City game. We got tired, dejected, over-it Josh. Dont read underneath Josh. Bomb-Bomb-Sack-Punt Josh. I dont put that all on him necessarily. I think he was being poorly advised to continue to only go deep. Whether that was Dorsey, or doctors based on elbow injury, or what, I dont know. But I'm pretty sure that is EXACTLY what Diggs was addressing when he told Josh "Stop listening to him!". The entire team was flat, tired, and over it. You can see it in the way Josh is sitting on that bench when Diggs was yelling to him. He was just done. Quote
Ga boy Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 Maybe Diggs has burnt some bridges in locker room. I can see him getting in guys faces about not being all in. As a leader that works sometimes in private conversations, but you can’t show guys up in front of others. If he’s done that more than a couple of times, he’s now toxic. If so, he needs to do some powerful repair work or move on. Leaders must be respectful. If he is traded it will be because he needs another new start. I hope all my conjecture is false. 1 Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Einstein said: It sounds like you just want to make an excuse for anyone with a Buffalo on their helmet. What’s left to do is be a captain and a teammate. A leader doesn’t abandon their team after a season ending loss because they’re mad. They rise above and are there for their teammates. Reporters who have been following the team for decades said they’ve never seen a player do that before. This is the same guy that stood on the field after the Chiefs playoff loss and wanted to watch them celebrate so he would have extra motivation to win it all next year. He went from that, to now he’s leaving the stadium before the coaches even get to the locker room? You can make excuses if you want but it’s not normal and it’s not a captain move. Geezus, you’re still in here ranting and whining about Diggs while full of panic? Lmao Dude go outside and get some fresh air. The Diggs situation may turn out to be nothing or turn out to be something. But damn dude, who he follows on IG means nothing. You realize he only uses his IG for fashion stuff right? You know he is way more active on Twitter right? You know he still follows Buffalo on Twitter right? You know his pic on Twitter is him as a Buffalo Bill right? You know he still follows Josh Allen and tons of other Bills players on both IG and Twitter right? Seriously dude, give it a rest until something actually meaningful comes out. All this nonsense from people in here and on social talking about impossible trades are ridiculous. Get some sun, come back when there is actually something of substance on a Diggs issue to discuss, if ever. 1 Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Einstein said: It sounds like you just want to make an excuse for anyone with a Buffalo on their helmet. What’s left to do is be a captain and a teammate. A leader doesn’t abandon their team after a season ending loss because they’re mad. They rise above and are there for their teammates. Reporters who have been following the team for decades said they’ve never seen a player do that before. This is the same guy that stood on the field after the Chiefs playoff loss and wanted to watch them celebrate so he would have extra motivation to win it all next year. He went from that, to now he’s leaving the stadium before the coaches even get to the locker room? You can make excuses if you want but it’s not normal and it’s not a captain move. I'm the biggest Diggs fan going and at times I do definitely think he is misunderstood and his motives are misunderstood. But on the bolded, there is absolutely no debating that. He is a leader on this team and he lost control of his emotions in that moment and it is not a good look for a leader. The same as an OC trashing a booth is not a good look for a leader. Leaders control their emotions and as much as I love Stef in that moment his emotions overtook him and he wasn't thinking about those around him. Not a captain move. 1 1 Quote
Einstein Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Geezus, you’re still in here ranting and whining about Diggs while full of panic? Lmao Dude go outside and get some fresh air. The Diggs situation may turn out to be nothing or turn out to be something. But damn dude, who he follows on IG means nothing. You realize he only uses his IG for fashion stuff right? You know he is way more active on Twitter right? You know he still follows Buffalo on Twitter right? You know his pic on Twitter is him as a Buffalo Bill right? You know he still follows Josh Allen and tons of other Bills players on both IG and Twitter right? Seriously dude, give it a rest until something actually meaningful comes out. All this nonsense from people in here and on social talking about impossible trades are ridiculous. Get some sun, come back when there is actually something of substance on a Diggs issue to discuss, if ever. If anyone is ranting, it’s you. I just give my opinion. Calmly and rationally. I get that you love Diggs. I love him too. And Allen. But calling a spade a spade is not a bad thing. People change and situations change. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/7/2023 at 12:30 PM, Buffalo03 said: I doubt that. I'm 37, I believe there are probably some 20 something Gen Z'ers on here somewhere. There are people that are idiots and douchebags of all ages but I hate being blamed as a Millennial for certain things by a Gen X'er that's only 5-10 years older than me. I saw someone post on Twitter last week about how Gen X is the last "non woke" generation and when I mentioned I would put early to mid Millennials into that category as well, I got told by a woman born in 1979 "sorry, you didn't make the cut". If she was born 2 years later, she would have been a Millennial herself lol. That's the stuff I find annoying but me personally. But I definitely think there are 20 something posters here Yes us soft bleeding heart millenials raised on South Park, Bevis & Butthead, and dial up internet erotica, are certainly soft 😆 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/7/2023 at 1:11 PM, Back2Buff said: What if he doesn't show up? Or causes issues once he decides to report? He wont. His bestfriend is his qb, and he has no leverage. Youre not going to strong arm your way out with a 30m dead cap hit overhead. Besides those two, I absolutely believe he still loves it here. He's frustrated over a rookie OC, and a way beyond normal stressful 12mos. Neither one of those repeats next year. He'll be fine 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/7/2023 at 3:41 PM, Alphadawg7 said: You address those issues when they happen. You don’t kill your teams cap and Super Bowl chances on something that might happen (and probably won’t happen) 6 months from now. He wasn’t happy in Minnesota and yet never once did that and still gave his all to the team. It would unbelievably stupid for the Bills to take on $40M in dead cap space between this year and next year because he unfollowed their IG page. I mean come on. And for what? Out of fear of things that haven’t happened yet and didn’t happen either when he was unhappy with his previous team? He will be a Buffalo Bill and major player this year and next year too. Only thing that changes that if something catastrophically changes, and even then it’s a long shot the team would trade him and take on that much dead cap hit. Who he does or doesn’t follow on IG is not that catastrophic event. More important IG question: Wonder if he follows Rachel Bush's IG...... I know he's certainly taken a peak lol but does he actually follow it? Great follow, headed there now that i think about it... her... no, it 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 10:00 AM, Back2Buff said: This makes me sad. I dont even think it means anything past that moment, but just makes me sad to see thats to where this team was brought by the end of the season from hell. Quote
Alphadawg7 Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Einstein said: I get that you love Diggs. I love him too. And Allen. But calling a spade a spade is not a bad thing. Geezus talk about tone deaf yikes Quote
Einstein Posted March 9, 2023 Posted March 9, 2023 15 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Geezus talk about tone deaf yikes Agreed. Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 10 hours ago, Mango said: A few months ago I was in the “WR be WR” camp around Diggs and a couple of the sideline moments he had. Where I think we diverge here is his actions post game. I cannot separate his sideline moments from his bailing on his teammates. Then blaming it on “his competitiveness” which implies others failed him. Then not showing back up. Diggs knows the rumors around him and this team and has months to quiet them. Instead he chooses to troll. Which is much more in line with him being a wiener than it is him acting as some motivational speaker. I want Diggs here. But more than that I want him to want to be here. And I right now I don’t see that. He must've read your post 1 hour ago, Einstein said: Agreed. He meant you dork 1 Quote
Einstein Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: He meant you dork 1 Quote
Mango Posted March 10, 2023 Posted March 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: He must've read your post He meant you dork Quote
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