Mikie2times Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 Mahomes was drafted in 2017 and didn't start a full season until 2018, an MVP year. He lost in an epic AFC championship game to the Patriots which would be the last main run of the Patriot era. Patriots would beat the Rams that year in a snoozer. The Rams were considered to be one of the best teams in football going into that year. A couple years later the Rams would eventually get the title in another year where most people had them as a Super Bowl favorite. Other NFC teams to make it include a defensive juggernaut in the 49ers, a very good Tampa team that just needed quality QB play, and an Eagles team that perhaps benefited from the luckiest SOS in recent Super Bowl history. A theme in the NFC is defense does matter. All of these teams, while having quality offense, had elite defenses. The NFC also seems much more open to variation in who makes it just based on the decline in QB play. In the AFC it has been much more of an arms race. 4 out of 5 years you ran into Mahomes or Burrow just shy of being 5 out of 5. Both teams seem to play defense that can step up when it matters. Beating either in the regular season seems to mean very little. This is especially true of Mahomes. I hope enough time has passed for people to understand that the Bills are not doomed. They're playing in a conference with a hall of fame QB who is 27 years old with 3 SB appearances and another who is 26 years old with one SB appearance. Until we break through this wall, under no condition do we ever deserve to be considered the favorites. In fact, the year we weren't the overwhelming favorite was the year we seemed to come the closest. Allen is not chopped liver and despite how this past year ended this team will be contending for a long time to come. When will it be our time? You won't know. You will never be able to know when your competition is this good. In fact, if you want to place a bet on when it's most likely to be our time? Pick the time you think it's least likely. Say, right about now. Let's critique, debate, be fans, but don't be a person that doesn't know when the times are good. Times are very good right now and our time will come. You just won't know when. 10 3 1 Quote
HOUSE Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 Time, it's flowing like a river To the sea, to the sea... 4 5 1 Quote
Don Otreply Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 Like sands through the hour glass, goes the days of our lives…, 7 1 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 It definitely feels more like our time to me now that our DC is gone. I was basically just at a dead end mentally knowing this was going to be the same story on repeat…so glad that’s not the case 1 1 1 1 Quote
Mikie2times Posted March 3, 2023 Author Posted March 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: It definitely feels more like our time to me now that our DC is gone. I was basically just at a dead end mentally knowing this was going to be the same story on repeat…so glad that’s not the case I was falling victim to this thinking and while I'm happy we are moving on, our time could have just as easily been in 2021 with Frazier. Nothing went our way this year, literally. I wish the way the ball bounces or the knee bends didn't play a role, but it's a huge factor in a championship run. 3 Quote
ToGoGo Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 When you detach yourself from the outcome. Allen better be studying the Tao this off-season. 1 Quote
NickelCity Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 4 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: It definitely feels more like our time to me now that our DC is gone. I was basically just at a dead end mentally knowing this was going to be the same story on repeat…so glad that’s not the case I hate to admit that for me, it's Dorsey. Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 To prove a point.... 2022 was the least hyped or picked Chiefs team since Mahomes was drafted. Almost everyone had them to take a small step back. Plenty were predicting they would need a wildcard to even make the playoffs. They ended up the 1 seed and Superbowl champions. I agree with the OP. Winning a championship requires lots of ingredients coming together at the same time, including a stroke of luck. Knowing when that moment will strike is harder. 1 2 Quote
John from Riverside Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 8 hours ago, KzooMike said: Mahomes was drafted in 2017 and didn't start a full season until 2018, an MVP year. He lost in an epic AFC championship game to the Patriots which would be the last main run of the Patriot era. Patriots would beat the Rams that year in a snoozer. The Rams were considered to be one of the best teams in football going into that year. A couple years later the Rams would eventually get the title in another year where most people had them as a Super Bowl favorite. Other NFC teams to make it include a defensive juggernaut in the 49ers, a very good Tampa team that just needed quality QB play, and an Eagles team that perhaps benefited from the luckiest SOS in recent Super Bowl history. A theme in the NFC is defense does matter. All of these teams, while having quality offense, had elite defenses. The NFC also seems much more open to variation in who makes it just based on the decline in QB play. In the AFC it has been much more of an arms race. 4 out of 5 years you ran into Mahomes or Burrow just shy of being 5 out of 5. Both teams seem to play defense that can step up when it matters. Beating either in the regular season seems to mean very little. This is especially true of Mahomes. I hope enough time has passed for people to understand that the Bills are not doomed. They're playing in a conference with a hall of fame QB who is 27 years old with 3 SB appearances and another who is 26 years old with one SB appearance. Until we break through this wall, under no condition do we ever deserve to be considered the favorites. In fact, the year we weren't the overwhelming favorite was the year we seemed to come the closest. Allen is not chopped liver and despite how this past year ended this team will be contending for a long time to come. When will it be our time? You won't know. You will never be able to know when your competition is this good. In fact, if you want to place a bet on when it's most likely to be our time? Pick the time you think it's least likely. Say, right about now. Let's critique, debate, be fans, but don't be a person that doesn't know when the times are good. Times are very good right now and our time will come. You just won't know when. This is my own opinion, but this is where I’m standing on it We will be ready whenever we build a team that Josh Allen does not have to be behind center in order to win Kansas City has that they can insert Patrick Mahomes back up into the game and that team still drive right down the field and score and then they are so much better with Patrick Mahomes We need that we need to be able to run the ball effectively not using Josh Allen we need receivers to make plays they don’t have the ball perfectly thrown to them. We need to be able to insert a back up QB and still win games and then whenever we have Josh Allen weird that much better. Build a better team We have a team that isn’t allowing us to throw the ball effectively fine build a line that will push people around and allow us to run the ball right down their throats. Our defense can’t stop anybody in a given game fine put an office on the field that will keep their office off of it. 1 2 Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 it'll never be our time. simple as. 1 1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Momma Pecoraro said: Yup, Time Won't Let Me and this one are probably my two favorite time tunes. Quote
Thurman#1 Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: This is my own opinion, but this is where I’m standing on it We will be ready whenever we build a team that Josh Allen does not have to be behind center in order to win Kansas City has that they can insert Patrick Mahomes back up into the game and that team still drive right down the field and score and then they are so much better with Patrick Mahomes We need that we need to be able to run the ball effectively not using Josh Allen we need receivers to make plays they don’t have the ball perfectly thrown to them. We need to be able to insert a back up QB and still win games and then whenever we have Josh Allen weird that much better. Build a better team We have a team that isn’t allowing us to throw the ball effectively fine build a line that will push people around and allow us to run the ball right down their throats. Our defense can’t stop anybody in a given game fine put an office on the field that will keep their office off of it. We've got that team. Have had for years. Matt Barkley won a game in 2018. The problem isn't winning without Allen. It's winning tough games without Allen. And realistically, KC can't do that either with any consistency. That's my opinion on it. Anyone should feel free to disagree on that too. If you want to lose your QB for the season, you ought to try to do it with about four games left and a damn good record, letting the backup lose a few games get warmed up, letting your coaches figure out how to use the backup as well as possible so they get it by the playoffs. That's the Brady-Hostetler-Foles way. You get a chance to figure out what he does best but defenses haven't seen enough film to figure out the best way to take him away. Edited March 3, 2023 by Thurman#1 Quote
Thurman#1 Posted March 3, 2023 Posted March 3, 2023 9 hours ago, KzooMike said: I was falling victim to this thinking and while I'm happy we are moving on, our time could have just as easily been in 2021 with Frazier. Nothing went our way this year, literally. I wish the way the ball bounces or the knee bends didn't play a role, but it's a huge factor in a championship run. Yes, very much so. 1 Quote
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