Kirby Jackson Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: When does JSN run? Are the receivers today? I feel like testing is big for him. He doesn't look that fast on the field. I do see the Beasley comp, definitely. He is like an ultra Beasley. I wouldn't usually have any part of a guy I think is pretty much a slot only in the 1st round.... but man in this class... if JSN is there I'd pick him. I don't think he will be as it happens. He is running at the OSU pro day. The receivers are today though I believe. He will run in the 4.5’s IMO. JSN raises the floor of the offense and is ready to contribute day 1. For me that is important in this draft. The Bills “window” is open now. I am not sure that I need some high ceiling guy that may take 2-3 years to develop. I want a couple of day 1 contributors in this draft. To me JSN will be like 80 catches, 900 yards and 7 TDs as a rookie. If you stack that with the others it improves the offense. He will be a chain mover. He reminds me a little of a young Jarvis Landry. Edited March 4, 2023 by Kirby Jackson 1 Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 33 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: He is running at the OSU pro day. The receivers are today though I believe. He will run in the 4.5’s IMO. JSN raises the floor of the offense and is ready to contribute day 1. For me that is important in this draft. The Bills “window” is open now. I am not sure that I need some high ceiling guy that may take 2-3 years to develop. I want a couple of day 1 contributors in this draft. To me JSN will be like 80 catches, 900 yards and 7 TDs as a rookie. If you stack that with the others it improves the offense. He will be a chain mover. He reminds me a little of a young Jarvis Landry. I have the reverse bias against him because his brother Canaan was a top prospect in the Yankees organization and was always injured. Canaan was a QB in HS but is the type of baseball player that his younger bro is in football.........instincts, hand-eye coordination, fluid athlete. In small spaces he's probably always the best athlete in the room......which is what Olave and Wilson were talking about. It's just always another injury with Canaan and the length of time missed didn't seem to add up. Usually leg injuries, but always something. When JSN called it an entire season with a hamstring injury.........that was all too familiar. Not running the 40 after 6 months to recuperate? I know everyone prefers to run at their pro day but that's some diva sh!t after skipping the season to prepare. Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: I have the reverse bias against him because his brother Canaan was a top prospect in the Yankees organization and was always injured. Canaan was a QB in HS but is the type of baseball player that his younger bro is in football.........instincts, hand-eye coordination, fluid athlete. In small spaces he's probably always the best athlete in the room......which is what Olave and Wilson were talking about. It's just always another injury with Canaan and the length of time missed didn't seem to add up. Usually leg injuries, but always something. When JSN called it an entire season with a hamstring injury.........that was all too familiar. Not running the 40 after 6 months to recuperate? I know everyone prefers to run at their pro day but that's some diva sh!t after skipping the season to prepare. Ohio State is a notoriously fast track. His obligation is to post as low of a time as possible. He’s doing what’s best for his status. No one will blame him for that Edited March 4, 2023 by Kirby Jackson Quote
BADOLBILZ Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Ohio State is a notoriously fast track. His obligation is to pot as low of a time as possible. He’s doing what’s best for his status. No one will blame him for that That attitude is fine if you proved your ability and durability on the field and are just trying to hold your position. JSN says he should go top 5 in the draft. *Maybe* no one will have any pause about him opting out of the 2022 season with a national championship run a distinct possibility............but there is no question not playing has lessened his stock at this point. How could it not? Greg Rousseau went thru a similar thing. He didn't skip the whole season because of a hamstring injury.....he opted out for Covid.....but if he had repeated his 2019 season in 2020 instead of opting out........ his modest workout numbers wouldn't have kept him out of the top 10. Quote
BillsFan619 Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 Pretty awesome to have such elite (and consistent) talent on our team that young up and comers dream of playing with them. Would you guys be happy with one of these WRs at pick 27? If so, do you have a preference of which one? Go Bills! Quote
McBean Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 They play offense, not defense. We don’t draft playmakers. Only rotational mediocre defensive guys. 2 1 1 Quote
Kirby Jackson Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 20 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: That attitude is fine if you proved your ability and durability on the field and are just trying to hold your position. JSN says he should go top 5 in the draft. *Maybe* no one will have any pause about him opting out of the 2022 season with a national championship run a distinct possibility............but there is no question not playing has lessened his stock at this point. How could it not? Greg Rousseau went thru a similar thing. He didn't skip the whole season because of a hamstring injury.....he opted out for Covid.....but if he had repeated his 2019 season in 2020 instead of opting out........ his modest workout numbers wouldn't have kept him out of the top 10. I don’t disagree, at all. That’s the only reason that JSN is even a possibility at 27. If he built off of the end of 2021 he was a top 10 lock. It’ll be interesting to see how this year plays out for Marvin Harrison JR. (who is a better prospect than any of them IMO). 1 Quote
NewEra Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: His name is Zay and he has bad hair Sorry Hahaha, was thinking the same thing. But I’ll take him. Not my first choice- but I think he’d fit nicely 1 Quote
BUFFALOTONE Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 What are guys supposed to say when asked that question? It’s all a job interview. Who want to play with Carson Wentz? Ask them and I’m sure they would say they’d love it. 1 2 Quote
The Firebaugh Kid Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 Flowers is small, no? Don't see him as a WR 1/2. 2 Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 39 minutes ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Flowers is small, no? Don't see him as a WR 1/2. The dude can play. I'd be pretty pleased if he was the pick. Quote
GunnerBill Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 4 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: He is running at the OSU pro day. The receivers are today though I believe. He will run in the 4.5’s IMO. JSN raises the floor of the offense and is ready to contribute day 1. For me that is important in this draft. The Bills “window” is open now. I am not sure that I need some high ceiling guy that may take 2-3 years to develop. I want a couple of day 1 contributors in this draft. To me JSN will be like 80 catches, 900 yards and 7 TDs as a rookie. If you stack that with the others it improves the offense. He will be a chain mover. He reminds me a little of a young Jarvis Landry. If he is there I wouldn't hate it. I doubt there is a possible pick I'm gonna love at #27 tbh. The more of this class I watch, the less I like it. Does make me more inclined towards guys you think can come in and be good early even if their ceiling is lower. Cos I don't think this draft is gonna kick out too many all pros when it is all said and done. 1 Quote
starrymessenger Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 1 hour ago, The Firebaugh Kid said: Flowers is small, no? Don't see him as a WR 1/2. He's short, 5'9". But he just put on some weight (12 LBs) so he's up to 182 LBs. Weight wise that puts him in the same class as most of the rest of this generally smaller class. I think he'd be a great # 2. Still prefer Addison. One of those guys will probably be there. Quote
balln Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: He's short, 5'9". But he just put on some weight (12 LBs) so he's up to 182 LBs. Weight wise that puts him in the same class as most of the rest of this generally smaller class. I think he'd be a great # 2. Still prefer Addison. One of those guys will probably be there. addison just ran a 4.55 flowers ran 4.42 ehhhh average. theyre both small and thin. NAH. PASSSSS Quote
OldTimer1960 Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 Jordan Addison ran only a 4.55 40 today. Might that cause him to drop enough to make it to the Bills? I think 4.55 is still acceptable provided his slight frame isn't too much of an additional detraction. He is certainly quick, productive and seems to have very good hands. Quote
NewEra Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 39 minutes ago, TheBeaneBandit said: The dude can play. I'd be pretty pleased if he was the pick. Think TY Hilton imo. Quote
starrymessenger Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 7 minutes ago, balln said: addison just ran a 4.55 flowers ran 4.42 ehhhh average. theyre both small and thin. NAH. PASSSSS Confess I'm a little surprised by these times. Flowers thought he'd run in the low 4.3s. If this pushes them down great. Quote
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