Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 14 hours ago, uticaclub said: Terrell Edmunds. Loose an Edmunds, add an Edmunds. Steelers fans in understand don’t like their Edmunds either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Josh Johnson please 9 minutes ago, boater said: When you account for total tax burden (Income Tax, Property Tax, Sales Tax, etc.) New York is the highest taxed state in the union. Yay, we're #1 in something. https://taxfoundation.org/tax-burden-by-state-2022/ You make up for it by paying $1000 less a month on your mortgage tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 3 hours ago, RG Murdock said: Poyer stating NY taxes take half his money is ludicrous..... Below is the top ten high state income tax list for earners making over $500K+ (The highest bracket) from Wiki for 2021. I don't see players bitching about going to the California teams, Pennsylvania teams, New Jersey teams, Green Bay, Minnesota etc. etc. Not everybody can go to Florida (BTW, a net "Taker" state that gets money from NY, NJ, CA etc. every year to help keep their taxes low!) Not an excuse. The top 10 highest income tax states for 2021 are: California 13.3% Hawaii 11% New Jersey 10.75% Oregon 9.9% Pennsylvania 9.8 Minnesota 9.85% Washington 8.95% New York 8.82% Iowa 8.53% Wisconsin 7.65% This chart is wrong. PA is only 3.07. https://www.revenue.pa.gov/Tax Rates/Pages/default.aspx Poyer is also likely accounting for county and other taxes. Meanwhile, NYS tax is higher than in the chart, and for Poyer, likely 9.65% https://www.thebalancemoney.com/new-york-personal-income-tax-3193284 3 hours ago, RG Murdock said: Poyer stating NY taxes take half his money is ludicrous..... Below is the top ten high state income tax list for earners making over $500K+ (The highest bracket) from Wiki for 2021. I don't see players bitching about going to the California teams, Pennsylvania teams, New Jersey teams, Green Bay, Minnesota etc. etc. Not everybody can go to Florida (BTW, a net "Taker" state that gets money from NY, NJ, CA etc. every year to help keep their taxes low!) Not an excuse. The top 10 highest income tax states for 2021 are: California 13.3% Hawaii 11% New Jersey 10.75% Oregon 9.9% Pennsylvania 9.8 Minnesota 9.85% Washington 8.95% New York 8.82% Iowa 8.53% Wisconsin 7.65% Not only is the above chart wrong (some states listed too high, others too low); but FL is not a net "taker". The state tax levels have zero impact on how federal taxes are distributed. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, RG Murdock said: Poyer stating NY taxes take half his money is ludicrous..... Below is the top ten high state income tax list for earners making over $500K+ (The highest bracket) from Wiki for 2021. I don't see players bitching about going to the California teams, Pennsylvania teams, New Jersey teams, Green Bay, Minnesota etc. etc. Not everybody can go to Florida (BTW, a net "Taker" state that gets money from NY, NJ, CA etc. every year to help keep their taxes low!) Not an excuse. The top 10 highest income tax states for 2021 are: California 13.3% Hawaii 11% New Jersey 10.75% Oregon 9.9% Pennsylvania 9.8 Minnesota 9.85% Washington 8.95% New York 8.82% Iowa 8.53% Wisconsin 7.65% he’s going to hate finding out federal tax was the issue and that half his game checks weren’t even taxed in NY Edited March 2, 2023 by NoSaint 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 Not to mention the Bills very likely could sign a guy who is currently a NB on another team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 53 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Steelers fans in understand don’t like their Edmunds either This one is cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 2, 2023 Share Posted March 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, NoSaint said: he’s going to hate finding out federal tax was the issue and that half his game checks weren’t even taxed in NY Pretty sure all of his bonuses which were close to 50% of his income last season are taxed at the state the team pays taxes to. Poyer earned $10.27 million or $10.01 depending on the source. $4.4-$4.6 million were bonuses all taxable by NYS $5.6 million was game day checks - half of those were played in NY so $2.8 million more was NYS taxable 4.4+2.8 = 7.2 4.6+2.8 = 7.4 either number you use, over 70% of his income was taxed by NYS income over $5m is taxed at 10.3% Its also not that hard to compare a game day check earned in NY, versus one earned in FL and see the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 5 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: Pretty sure all of his bonuses which were close to 50% of his income last season are taxed at the state the team pays taxes to. Poyer earned $10.27 million or $10.01 depending on the source. $4.4-$4.6 million were bonuses all taxable by NYS $5.6 million was game day checks - half of those were played in NY so $2.8 million more was NYS taxable 4.4+2.8 = 7.2 4.6+2.8 = 7.4 either number you use, over 70% of his income was taxed by NYS income over $5m is taxed at 10.3% Its also not that hard to compare a game day check earned in NY, versus one earned in FL and see the difference. Yes but 10% of 70% is not “half my check” status either if we are auditing claims 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Jordan is gone. He deleted all his Buffalo Bills pics and everything Bills related from his IG. See ya dude. Your time here was awesome, but your time as an elite player is over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Just get Harrison Smith, problem solved... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 10 hours ago, SCBills said: I think the draft piece has to depend on what McBeane truly think of Benford, no? I'd let Poyer walk, sign a vet S, transition Benford and bring back Marlowe. That gives us Hyde - Vet Safety, with Benford and Marlowe as depth. Hamlin, we'll see how that goes. Then draft a CB on Day 3 to compete with Dane Jackson for depth behind White and Elam. I don't know actually. Is this Benford "our" idea, or has Beane talked about it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 13 hours ago, freddyjj said: John Johnson if cut by Browns could be a 2nd wave signing. Problem being he is a deep field cover guy which is primarily Hyde's gig. Replace a safety from Browns for safety from Browns? People will start talking. One thing we will never get like we got with Jordan Poyer is a safety who would go one-on-one on an offense lineman and push him back. I was in a bar and and was asked who that LB was and I told him it was our safety pushing the lineman whose reaction was "Who the F are you?" (Lesley pulled a DL around end in a blitz and Poyer was supposed to occupy lineman and he did more) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 7 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: $4.4-$4.6 million were bonuses all taxable by NYS If this figure includes signing bonus prorated for the year, then maybe not. Someone posted an article by sports accountants and it said that signing bonuses could be taxable by state of residence. Not sure his state of residence. Now if some of this includes other bonuses, I'm not sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffblue Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 13 hours ago, Bruffalo said: Probably an unpopular opinion: With all of the injury concerns he showed this season combined with his age I think it's better to let him walk. Fortunately it seems the Bills agree with this line of thinking. As productive as Poyer has been, you don't spend significant money for a 32 year old player at a non premium position given our limited resources Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 On 3/1/2023 at 11:28 PM, uticaclub said: Terrell Edmunds. Lose an Edmunds, add an Edmunds. Do you think the Edmunds Brothers try to team up? Buffalo? Pittsburgh? Or? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 21 hours ago, RG Murdock said: Poyer stating NY taxes take half his money is ludicrous..... Below is the top ten high state income tax list for earners making over $500K+ (The highest bracket) from Wiki for 2021. I don't see players bitching about going to the California teams, Pennsylvania teams, New Jersey teams, Green Bay, Minnesota etc. etc. Not everybody can go to Florida (BTW, a net "Taker" state that gets money from NY, NJ, CA etc. every year to help keep their taxes low!) Not an excuse. The top 10 highest income tax states for 2021 are: California 13.3% Hawaii 11% New Jersey 10.75% Oregon 9.9% Pennsylvania 9.8 Minnesota 9.85% Washington 8.95% New York 8.82% Iowa 8.53% Wisconsin 7.65% Not sure where you are getting your info from, but New York's highest rate is 10.9%. This is third highest state in the nation behind California and Hawaii. Federal is what does the most damage, though, with a 37% bracket. So Poyer is likely paying half his money to taxes, but the bulk is federal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 22 hours ago, somnus00 said: With payroll so top heavy, this team needs an injection of young cheap talent. The pro and college scouting depts have their work cut out this offseason. Well thought out point. We need a hit in this years draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saxum Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 13 hours ago, Bubba Gump said: Jordan is gone. He deleted all his Buffalo Bills pics and everything Bills related from his IG. See ya dude. Your time here was awesome, but your time as an elite player is over. Hope he realizes that when he does that fans are less likely to donate to his charity as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 On 3/1/2023 at 10:14 PM, 78thealltimegreat said: I’d love to have Jordan back but hey it’s the market… someone like Duron Harmon or Adrian Amos I wouldn’t exactly hate the Bills signing to pair with Micah https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2023-free-agent-rankings-safety What about bringing the Edmunds in and keeping the brothers together. I think 49 has his best years ahead of him and I honestly wasn’t very impressed his first few seasons. But I believe the youngster is coming along Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 Get someone younger and cheaper. Spend the difference on the OL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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