TE? Darnell Washington

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

5 minutes ago, NeverOutNick said:

I drool over his potential but as of right now he would be nothing more than a 6th O lineman and red zone specialist because he’s not a natural pass catcher or route runner. I think he can develop and could be a top 10 TE in the league some day but for the next year or 2 when we’re in our Super Bowl prime I’m not sure we want to invest our first round pick on a great blocking TE. If he falls to us in the 2nd then heck ya I’m in

 

Our super bowl window will also be cracked up with Allen. If Washington takes 3-4 years to reach best tight end in the league status I don't see that being an issue at all. Would be a wise investment. 

[Dr. Who]

Just now, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

 

Our super bowl window will also be cracked up with Allen. If Washington takes 3-4 years to reach best tight end in the league status I don't see that being an issue at all. Would be a wise investment. 

I'm not sure how much room there is to grow as an offensive threat. He helps the oline and blocking immediately and that's no small thing. He's also a RZ threat out of the box.

[billsfan89]

I love Washington as a prospect but I think he would be a luxury pick for the Bills. I think the Bills would be better off going Oline or WR for more offensive impact at pick 27

[Dr. Who]

31 minutes ago, billsfan89 said:

I love Washington as a prospect but I think he would be a luxury pick for the Bills. I think the Bills would be better off going Oline or WR for more offensive impact at pick 27

The question is whether or not there will be an olineman or wr that merits the pick at 27. Does Washington help the blocking more than an OL prospect that likely doesn't see the field because he's not a day one starter? WR group is bad. I don't really like Hyatt at 27. If you end up with Washington and Matthew Bergeron in the second that would palpably help the oline imo. I am skeptical that Beane will spend the first two picks on offense, however.

[NewEra]

16 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

The question is whether or not there will be an olineman or wr that merits the pick at 27. Does Washington help the blocking more than an OL prospect that likely doesn't see the field because he's not a day one starter? WR group is bad. I don't really like Hyatt at 27. If you end up with Washington and Matthew Bergeron in the second that would palpably help the oline imo. I am skeptical that Beane will spend the first two picks on offense, however.

I’d be ok with it if our 1st 2 picks were Washington and Bergeron.  Giving Josh more protection.  While I don’t think Washington is a great receiving threat- I think he’s an amazing red zone chess piece-  and we need that.  He might be niche and a luxury, but if there’s a draft where you want to roll the dice on that, this is the one.  
 

He’d be valuable in the run game, pass game and in the red zone. He’s a matchup problem that can create a lot of confusion.  
 

that said- I understand why people wouldn’t want him. He’s not in my top 5 of hopefully picks, but I think he can be an asset

[Dr. Who]

1 minute ago, NewEra said:

I’d be ok with it if our 1st 2 picks were Washington and Bergeron.  Giving Josh more protection.  While I don’t think Washington is a great receiving threat- I think he’s an amazing red zone chess piece-  and we need that.  He might be niche and a luxury, but if there’s a draft where you want to roll the dice on that, this is the one.  
 

He’d be valuable in the run game, pass game and in the red zone. He’s a matchup problem that can create a lot of confusion.  
 

that said- I understand why people wouldn’t want him. He’s not in my top 5 of hopefully picks, but I think he can be an asset

I had both Bergeron and Washington slotted as fellas I would like in the second. If you want Washington, you'd have to trade up from 59. The way the mocks have played out, I've tilted Washington towards an outside consideration at 27. What I fear is that the two guards signed in FA are going to be the only substantial investment thrown at improving the oline and that Beane is counting on Brown playing much better. That's crazy talk, imo, and if that's his gambit and it doesn't work, he'll deserve all the grief that comes his way.

[Tipster19]

On 3/1/2023 at 2:00 PM, billvernsays said:

Based on Beane’s PC yesterday I’m thinking we may be considering the TE from Georgia, Darnell Washington.

He was saying to get playmakers and match up guys in the 1st round that make defenses second guess their personal.
 

Darnell Would do this for us and he’s a blocking stud in both the run game and passing game. 
 

I bring it up because I haven’t seen him projected to us at all and he may be someone we haven’t discussed much and overlooked but after thinking about it I think he would look great in our offense allowing Knox to be more of a receiving TE and steam stretcher like Ertz was in his prime. 

I’m glad that your post has been revived, I wanted to do it the other day but I didn’t know how. Anyways I believe that at pick #27 Washington is a very worthy candidate for the Bills. He would bring immediate help to the OL, provide a valid 2 TE set that would be very potent and it also allows some more flexibility for the following couple of rounds after the 1st round. I’d be very happy with the pick, I lived in Augusta, Ga for 3 years and still have a lot of connections up there and they are absolutely crazy about the guy, they have a rabid fan base for the Bulldogs up there.

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, NeverOutNick said:

he’s not a natural pass catcher 

 

Not a natural route runner, sure, but pass catcher? Dude has amazing hands.

 

 

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, billsfan89 said:

I love Washington as a prospect but I think he would be a luxury pick for the Bills. I think the Bills would be better off going Oline or WR for more offensive impact at pick 27

 

Immediate impact with a WR? I wouldn't be so sure, at all. 

 

Diggs & Davis are locked in at the top 2 spots. Shakir is #3. Hardy is locked in at slot. Only chance a WR gets on the field much is if we are in 4 or 5 WR sets.

 

Look how little we used Shakir last year.

 

 

[Warriorspikes51]

37 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Immediate impact with a WR? I wouldn't be so sure, at all. 

 

Diggs & Davis are locked in at the top 2 spots. Shakir is #3. Hardy is locked in at slot. Only chance a WR gets on the field much is if we are in 4 or 5 WR sets.

 

Look how little we used Shakir last year.

 

 

that really depends on who the WR is and how mini camp + training camp go

 

if you get JSN, Flowers or Addison they are immediately the #3

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

I had both Bergeron and Washington slotted as fellas I would like in the second. If you want Washington, you'd have to trade up from 59. The way the mocks have played out, I've tilted Washington towards an outside consideration at 27. What I fear is that the two guards signed in FA are going to be the only substantial investment thrown at improving the oline and that Beane is counting on Brown playing much better. That's crazy talk, imo, and if that's his gambit and it doesn't work, he'll deserve all the grief that comes his way.

Agreed.  If Brown is terrible and we come up short, it could cost Beane his job.  It won’t…. But it should be considered.  
 

I’m really hoping that we’re the idiots and Brown will be much improved .  All signs point to Brown, Doyle and Quess being our only options.  😢 

[machine gun kelly]

I’ve been vocal that I want a draft day trade for Oliver to Hopkins.  They get a talent maybe next years 4th RD pick.  Then one of the top WR in the draft and then a TE like this one in the 2nd.

 

I know it’s a lot, but that is a lot of weapons to our score opponents.  I know MLB is important, but I’ll take a decent one plus maybe Klein as well.  Maybe we drop from top 3 defense to maybe top 7-8, but and a #1 offense.

How fun would that be?  10, 11, 12 personnel options, and Josh just having a ball out there.

[billvernsays]

5 hours ago, Tipster19 said:

I’m glad that your post has been revived, I wanted to do it the other day but I didn’t know how. Anyways I believe that at pick #27 Washington is a very worthy candidate for the Bills. He would bring immediate help to the OL, provide a valid 2 TE set that would be very potent and it also allows some more flexibility for the following couple of rounds after the 1st round. I’d be very happy with the pick, I lived in Augusta, Ga for 3 years and still have a lot of connections up there and they are absolutely crazy about the guy, they have a rabid fan base for the Bulldogs up there.

Yeah I’ve gone from being lukewarm on this idea to this potential pick being one of my favorites. 
 

I believe he wasn’t asked to do much in the passing game because he’s such a stud in the blocking game and Brock Bowers is such a stud as a receiving threat. We’d ask him to do the same. 
 

Added bonus the more 12 personnel we run the fresher our WRs will be, leading to less drops (looking at you Gabe) and the less hits Allen will be taking. 

[nosejob]

3 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

I’ve been vocal that I want a draft day trade for Oliver to Hopkins.  They get a talent maybe next years 4th RD pick.  Then one of the top WR in the draft and then a TE like this one in the 2nd.

 

I know it’s a lot, but that is a lot of weapons to our score opponents.  I know MLB is important, but I’ll take a decent one plus maybe Klein as well.  Maybe we drop from top 3 defense to maybe top 7-8, but and a #1 offense.

How fun would that be?  10, 11, 12 personnel options, and Josh just having a ball out there.

It would have to be a 3 way trade. The Cards won't want Ed's 11 mil. salary and they pick 3rd in each rd.

[Einstein]

5 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

that really depends on who the WR is and how mini camp + training camp go

 

if you get JSN, Flowers or Addison they are immediately the #3

 

With those coaching staff, I don’t see it.

 

We were decimated at CB last year and there were stretches where Elam struggled to see the field more than 1/3rd of the time.

 

[Chaos]

7 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

I love Washington as a prospect but I think he would be a luxury pick for the Bills. I think the Bills would be better off going Oline or WR for more offensive impact at pick 27

Bills offense punts less than any team in the league. This means we move the ball better than anyone else between the 20's. Bills redzone was ninth in the NFL last year. Which ever offensive player improves that Redzone result the most, should be the target.  That seems like online to me.  But it could be TE just as easily as WR. 

[stinky finger]

4 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

I’ve been vocal that I want a draft day trade for Oliver to Hopkins.  They get a talent maybe next years 4th RD pick.  Then one of the top WR in the draft and then a TE like this one in the 2nd.

 

I know it’s a lot, but that is a lot of weapons to our score opponents.  I know MLB is important, but I’ll take a decent one plus maybe Klein as well.  Maybe we drop from top 3 defense to maybe top 7-8, but and a #1 offense.

How fun would that be?  10, 11, 12 personnel options, and Josh just having a ball out there.

 

I couldn't care less about where we'd rank defensively. It need only be opportunistic. It needs to get to the QB at key times and come up with that "one stop".

 

If this draft doesn't scream offense (ie. protect and provide for JA), then BB needs to look over his shoulder.

[Warriorspikes51]

It would be funny to see him lined up next to Harty

[NeverOutNick]

7 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

Not a natural route runner, sure, but pass catcher? Dude has amazing hands.

 

 

Looks like he has amazing hand not hands lol but it just doesn’t look like he’s a natural hands catcher but there also isn’t a lot of tape of him catching balls so maybe I’m wrong

[Dr. Who]

37 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

It would be funny to see him lined up next to Harty

Now they've got to draft him.