PetermansRedemption Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: The girl he was racing had the 0.197 BAC level was involved in the crash that killed the football player and herself. The bad thing that he did was leave the scene of the crime and came back 2 hours later. Perhaps if he stayed he could have rendered some type of aid to the crash victims. He very likely knew that if he stayed, he would be charged with DUI. Ignoring the morality of it, legally, when all the sentences are handed out, it may work out better for him having left. Edited March 1, 2023 by PetermansRedemption 2 Quote
freddyjj Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 Jalen might as sell have just changed his first name to Rubin.... Quote
BillsFan2313 Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I have done it and know about 100 people that have done it....several times. Boys get competitive and adrenaline, you'll have a guy trying to pass you in the other lane....hit the gas and talk trash with the windows down to your buddy in the next car. We did it heading home from college probably every time. The roads on the state lines between Alabama and Georgia are usually empty....long country roads. We would hit stretches of 100 mph. This is 20 year old thinking that you're invincible. This is why when I hear stories about this, even as bad as it is, I get more heartbroken than angry. Someone died that shouldn't and someone made a terrible a mistake. A mistake I've made and several others but we were lucky. I obviously don't do it anymore, people (most) mature and understand reality. 20 year old make stupid mistakes because they don't understand the reality yet. 1 1 Quote
Augie Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 6 hours ago, LEBills said: Chiefs and Bengals 👋 Heck, the Browns might even trade up to get him now. 😋 I drove stupidly fast to keep up with a friend on a straight empty road once in my life. It was one time too many (and it was nowhere near those speeds). I was a passenger with two different guys who took off like that hitting about 100 while I protested. One I literally never got in a car with again, and the other it was years before I’d let him drive again. It’s a stupid thing to do, so I had to find different stupid things to do. Things with lesser potential consequences. 1 Quote
Thrivefourfive Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 For you non-racers and weavers, I’ve never felt adrenaline like smashing the gas in my 68 Camaro and whooping a 67 Camaro down a known street ‘drag strip’. Dozens were there to watch. Just a different rush. Alls I’m saying. Quote
Chaos Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 12 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said: For you non-racers and weavers, I’ve never felt adrenaline like smashing the gas in my 68 Camaro and whooping a 67 Camaro down a known street ‘drag strip’. Dozens were there to watch. Just a different rush. Alls I’m saying. and if your were drunk, and crashed and someone died, your life would have likely been ruined. 2 Quote
Sherlock Holmes Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Augie said: Heck, the Browns might even trade up to get him now. 😋 I drove stupidly fast to keep up with a friend on a straight empty road once in my life. It was one time too many (and it was nowhere near those speeds). I was a passenger with two different guys who took off like that hitting about 100 while I protested. One I literally never got in a car with again, and the other it was years before I’d let him drive again. It’s a stupid thing to do, so I had to find different stupid things to do. Things with lesser potential consequences. Augie, something tells me you hit 75 mph in a 65 mph zone... Quote
Augie Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said: Augie, something tells me you hit 75 mph in a 65 mph zone... Funny you say that! I probably just had my permit at the time, and the head of traffic for Amherst told my class they will never pull you over for less than 10 over. In 30 some years he’d only seen it twice, and both times they just wanted to pull them over for any old reason. Is that wise to tell a bunch of 16 year old kids? I was a bit over 75, and it was a bit under 65. But it was wide, empty streets with 5 lanes. That’s all you’ll get out of me! 1 Quote
Bob Jones Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 51 minutes ago, Thrivefourfive said: For you non-racers and weavers, I’ve never felt adrenaline like smashing the gas in my 68 Camaro and whooping a 67 Camaro down a known street ‘drag strip’. Dozens were there to watch. Just a different rush. Alls I’m saying. Try getting on a superbike, like an R1 or ZX-10 or GSXR-1000 and going WOT from 0 to 180mph in about 20 seconds. Now THAT is adrenaline rush! We always used to say that it was the most fun you could have with your clothes on. LOL Sadly, for me, it looks like those days are over, as at this moment, I'm bikeless. I do remember one night in the late 70s going back home to the southtowns after a Saturday night at Ohio St, hitting 130mph in my 69 Dodge Charger on the thruway (late at night, no cars in front of me for a good distance...didn’t "blow by" anybody). Took a little while to get it up there though, as that car was pretty much a heavy sled. Good times...😃 Quote
3rdand12 Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 3 hours ago, BillsFan2313 said: Do you all know what a Jeep Trackhawk is is exactly ?Much less how much they cost. vs a ford expedition. This kids was driving a super SUV with 700HP if not modified. they get to 1100HP with a tune. No one was going to come close to keeping up. not even Lambos etc Kids being kids ? With 100k car vs a 250 horse car with NO handling or braking upgrades is inviting disaster. He should never have pushed the "Hey lets Race" button knowing what might happen to the expedition. Trackhawk, how does a kid get one of these. 8 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: Try getting on a superbike, like an R1 or ZX-10 or GSXR-1000 and going WOT from 0 to 180mph in about 20 seconds. Now THAT is adrenaline rush! We always used to say that it was the most fun you could have with your clothes on. LOL Sadly, for me, it looks like those days are over, as at this moment, I'm bikeless. I do remember one night in the late 70s going back home to the southtowns after a Saturday night at Ohio St, hitting 130mph in my 69 Dodge Charger on the thruway (late at night, no cars in front of me for a good distance...didn’t "blow by" anybody). Took a little while to get it up there though, as that car was pretty much a heavy sled. Good times...😃 any body die ? Quote
K D Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 These are probably the slowest cars on the team. Begs the question, is it a good idea for 18-21 yr olds to be paid NIL deals and given free cars? Are they mature enough to have some of these faster cars as their first car? Seems like a bad idea 1 Quote
Augie Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: These are probably the slowest cars on the team. Begs the question, is it a good idea for 18-21 yr olds to be paid NIL deals and given free cars? Are they mature enough to have some of these faster cars as their first car? Seems like a bad idea What if he’s a golf or tennis prodigy? Or a software savant? If they are 18 what is to be done about it? Quote
3rdand12 Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 7 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: We just always competed. Something random like we would be leaving a restaurant and someone would say "last ones get the second game of Madden". So we all ran to the cars get and go. This is the mind of a 17 year old. It wasn't every single time....just random times we wanted to be stupid. I got one speeding ticket in HS. It wasn't just driving we would compete at. its fine in your Moms 225CI 73 Duster or My parents 244 Volvo that both took about an hour to hit sixty and no one was around to see the embarassing fun. Yes we raced everything 1st time I owned a v8 , 318 dodge dart i almost killed myself and learned to respect automobiles much more and quickly. and that hardly compares to today speed merchants 1 Quote
K D Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Augie said: What if he’s a golf or tennis prodigy? Or a software savant? If they are 18 what is to be done about it? I don't think 16 year olds should drive at all and 18 year olds should not have Ferraris. Your brain isn't fully developed until 25 and you can't rent a car until that age Quote
Bob Jones Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: any body die ? 40+ years of going really fast and thankfully, none of my speed addicted friends have "bought the farm." And obviously, I'm still here. Lots of skill, and of course, some luck too, was involved. LMAO I mean, getting on a litre bike and going WOT (wide open throttle) up to 160-180 mph is about as exhilarating as life can get. Don't knock it until you try it! 😉 Of course you have to be VERY selective as to when and where you can even do that (if you're not at a sanctioned track). Quote
Augie Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said: I don't think 16 year olds should drive at all and 18 year olds should not have Ferraris. Your brain isn't fully developed until 25 and you can't rent a car until that age Nobody knows the bold better than I do, but what exactly are you going to do about it. Enact a new law? If they have the money, and are of legal age, there is nothing you can do about it. Other than tell them to get off your lawn, I suppose. 2 Quote
nosejob Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 10 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I have done it and know about 100 people that have done it....several times. Boys get competitive and adrenaline, you'll have a guy trying to pass you in the other lane....hit the gas and talk trash with the windows down to your buddy in the next car. We did it heading home from college probably every time. The roads on the state lines between Alabama and Georgia are usually empty....long country roads. We would hit stretches of 100 mph. This is 20 year old thinking that you're invincible. This is why when I hear stories about this, even as bad as it is, I get more heartbroken than angry. Someone died that shouldn't and someone made a terrible a mistake. A mistake I've made and several others but we were lucky. I obviously don't do it anymore, people (most) mature and understand reality. 20 year old make stupid mistakes because they don't understand the reality yet. So your point is what?.... 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: These are probably the slowest cars on the team. Begs the question, is it a good idea for 18-21 yr olds to be paid NIL deals and given free cars? Are they mature enough to have some of these faster cars as their first car? Seems like a bad idea My point . Thank you. 6 minutes ago, Bob Jones said: 40+ years of going really fast and thankfully, none of my speed addicted friends have "bought the farm." And obviously, I'm still here. Lots of skill, and of course, some luck too, was involved. LMAO I mean, getting on a litre bike and going WOT (wide open throttle) up to 160-180 mph is about as exhilarating as life can get. Don't knock it until you try it! 😉 Of course you have to be VERY selective as to when and where you can even do that (if you're not at a sanctioned track). It takes great skill and respect of what you are responsible for. btw Done that Quote
Chicken Boo Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 Beyond stupid, given what's at stake - mainly your freedom, but that's alcohol and youth for ya. Quote
nosejob Posted March 2, 2023 Posted March 2, 2023 5 minutes ago, Augie said: Nobody knows the bold better than I do, but what exactly are you going to do about it. Enact a new law? If they have the money, and are of legal age, there is nothing you can do about it. Other than tell them to get off your lawn, I suppose. Oh so if you're under 25 at a party and you pants some chick out back, it's ah well......? Quote
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