Potential Number 1 pick Jalen Carter Arrest Warrant

[Goin Breakdown]

If it were our family member or child that was killed Would we be saying "ohh well we've all done it". Speeding is one thing racing is another. I'm am also not at all saying he's a bad kid. We all make mistakes but we can't downplay when someone's life was lost. Wrong is wrong. 

[RiotAct]

so, he’s going to the Chiefs.  Great.

[DaBillsFanSince1973]

1 minute ago, Beck Water said:

 

We seem to be infantalizing early-20s kids these days and acting as though that's the norm. 

 

If we're gonna go all "meta" here: maybe that should stop.

 

 

 

I mean, Durrrr, but is that supposed to be a problem or something?  Or does it hit a "soft spot" in you?  In other words, What's Your Point?

not at all, I'm not from the weak culture of the 21st century. again, are you that dense. read the thread and you can clearly see many judging the young man for his awful decision. 

 

 

[US Egg]

20 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

He didn't get a DUI and he wasn't in an accident.  The car he was racing was in an accident, and they were far over the legal limit.  You don't have a toxicology report so you can't charge him with a DUI, and stretching it to anything beyond reckless driving is challenging since you know the other driver was inebriated and driving recklessly.  

Similar to what happened to my kid’s friend at around the same age. Seemed like a decent kid from a sound family. He did two years. Lifes and families ruined forever.

That there are those who can mock the situation is typical. 

 

Edited March 1, 2023 by I am the egg man

[Bob Jones]

51 minutes ago, Mark80 said:

Sad.  Who the hell races an Expedition and Trailhawk?  Stupid and sad.

Drunk people! LOL

[947]

The Jeep Trackhawk Carter was driving has over 700 Horsepower & costs $91K. I'll assume this was part of his NIL deal with Georgia, and all the big NIL deals include fancy cars, but why give a top prospect a 700HP vehicle? There are tons of 300HP fancy car options less likely to result in needing to show off that speed.

[chongli]

11 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

If it were our family member or child that was killed Would we be saying "ohh well we've all done it". Speeding is one thing racing is another. I'm am also not at all saying he's a bad kid. We all make mistakes but we can't downplay when someone's life was lost. Wrong is wrong. 

 

No one is downplaying anything. Jalen Carter did not kill anyone. The other driver is responsible for racing the car in the crash. It could have been Jalen's car that crashed, but it wasn't.

[TheyCallMeAndy]

13 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said:

If it were our family member or child that was killed Would we be saying "ohh well we've all done it". Speeding is one thing racing is another. I'm am also not at all saying he's a bad kid. We all make mistakes but we can't downplay when someone's life was lost. Wrong is wrong. 

Racing drunk on top of that. We’ve all raced.

[Bob Jones]

1 minute ago, 947 said:

The Jeep Trackhawk Carter was driving has over 700 Horsepower & costs $91K. I'll assume this was part of his NIL deal with Georgia, and all the big NIL deals include fancy cars, but why give a top prospect a 700HP vehicle? There are tons of 300HP fancy car options less likely to result in needing to show off that speed.

Wow, I didn’t realize that. Knowing this now, it's crazy that the Jeep wasn't just able to absolutely run away from the tank/Expedition, unless he's just a young &  unskilled driver (likely), or was just playing with the tank.

 

Someone upthread mentioned taking responsibility....apparently he fled the scene and then came back to it 90 minutes later, and of course lied to the cops aboit his involvement in incident.

[Billsflyer12]

I know my life has never been the same since I was 8 years old and an 18 year old drunk, recklessness driver T-Boned and killed my mother less than 2 minutes after dropping my sister and I at school in Rochester.

 

My heart and life miss her every fu*king day.

[Solomon Grundy]

1 hour ago, CountDorkula said:

 

What's the deal with these big guys and car racing?? 

[Bob Jones]

46 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I've done it more than on long empty roads.  I've done it in the city.  I never got it up to 100 mph in the city but in the 55 mph sections at 2:00 am....we would hit 90 mph driving home.  

 

I've done it several times not on long country roads.

 

One spot in particular I know is known for it.  It's 55 mph and people will race down at 2:00 am.

Downtown Buffalo, on Ohio Street in the late 70s? LOL I was there. It was somewhat controlled, but years later when I was long gone from WNY, I read that somebody crashed, car got cut in half, and some spectators....which lined both sides of the one-way, 4-lane street....as well as people in the car died. I think the cops finally shut it down after that, but like I said, I was gone by then, so who knows?

 

We never raced through suburban streets though....that would have been crazy! LOL

[Nextmanup]

Ever notice that elite football players and automobiles just don't go together?

 

 

[C.Biscuit97]

4 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Ever notice that elite football players and automobiles just don't go together?

 

 

Considering car accidents are like the 4th leading cause of death, I’d argue a lot of people and cars don’t go together. 
 

I actually would bet the % of football players involved in car crash/ violations is lower than the general population. Check you local news and you will see a bunch of terrible car related stuff.

14 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said:

I know my life has never been the same since I was 8 years old and an 18 year old drunk, recklessness driver T-Boned and killed my mother less than 2 minutes after dropping my sister and I at school in Rochester.

 

My heart and life miss her every fu*king day.

I’m really sorry to hear that. Another issue this country sucks with is DWI laws. In some countries, you lose your license after one. Here, we have people with like 5 or 6 or get a slap on the wrist for killing someone.
 

sorry again. Can’t imagine that feeling . 

[TheFunPolice]

1 hour ago, MJS said:

Almost everyone has drag raced down a busy street, swerving between lanes of traffic and even oncoming traffic? You really think that?

 

Jeez, I get a bit of a rush at just the idea of going 5 MPH over the limit on the expressway. 

Edited March 1, 2023 by TheFunPolice

[Royale with Cheese]

45 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I doubt that there are sidewalks in that particular area, but otherwise, Thank You. 

This.

 

This was not a long empty straight deserted country road.

 

There were other cars on the road, a road busy enough to have a center turn lane, and they were passing them.

 

 

Then I don't even know what to say to you. 

 

Yes I do - you were an ####### when you did it, you were putting innocent bystanders at almost as much risk as if you were twirling around shooting a gun, and you really need to quit normalizing this as something just "everybody does".

 

https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/teen-volleyball-player-from-tennessee-critically-injured-in-downtown-st-louis-crash/

 

This kind of thing.  There's a young lady - a young lady who entered the weekend with a full ride volleyball scholarship to college - who just lost both her legs and whose life will never be the same (if she lives) because #######s think that traffic laws don't apply to them.  The driver and the other car are fine, of course -the car and its engineering protected them, but not the young lady who was walking down the sidewalk minding her own business.

 

You did it, you don't do it now, Good for You, but don't normalize it. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not normalizing it....I'm just giving you the reality that this is very common with young men.  This isn't just a Jalen Carter thing, this is a 16-24 year old thing.

I'm not proud of it but myself along with the crowds I hung out with as they've gotten older realized they were stupid.

 

You can get pissy all you want with me but this the reality.  It's on your roads at 2:00 am when you're sleeping.

 

 

13 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

Downtown Buffalo, on Ohio Street in the late 70s? LOL I was there. It was somewhat controlled, but years later when I was long gone from WNY, I read that somebody crashed, car got cut in half, and some spectators....which lined both sides of the one-way, 4-lane street....as well as people in the car died. I think the cops finally shut it down after that, but like I said, I was gone by then, so who knows?

 

We never raced through suburban streets though....that would have been crazy! LOL

 

It was suburban streets by like neighborhoods, its those long stretches of roads by malls or restaurants or bars.

By me, it was Barrett Parkway.  Once you leave the well lit areas and go down the roads heading towards the suburbs, there's a few mile stretch of 55 mph in which we would floor it.  It wasn't like we were doing 90 for like 15 minutes....these are 15-30 seconds and then slow down.

[TheBrownBear]

1 hour ago, CountDorkula said:

I feel like we are also ignoring the BAC levels that were reported. 
 

Did he bolt because he was also heavily intoxicated?

We'll likely never know unless they have witnesses who can attest to his drinking that night, but he was almost certainly impaired as well.  No one drives like that on residential streets at 2:30AM if they're sober.  That blows right past adrenaline fueled risky behavior to death wish territory.

[PetermansRedemption]

1 hour ago, Teddy KGB said:

Meh, terrible outcome but what do you think young boys who all of a sudden have money for sport cars are gonna do. 
 

Hit him with a misdemeanor and let’s move along.  

It wasn’t sports cars. The deceased was driving a ford expedition. The other car was a Jeep Cherokee. 

[TheBrownBear]

I'm kind of shocked by the "we all raced" comments in this thread.  My friends and I have never "raced" in our entire lives as far as I've known, and we weren't dweebs locked in our parents basements or anything.  We were jocks and frat guys - the typical, "young, dumb, testosterone fueled" demographic.  I know there were "car scenes" and street racers, but I thought that was a fairly small sliver of dudes.  Maybe street racing got a big bump from those stupid Fast & Furious movies?  

5 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said:

It wasn’t sports cars. The deceased was driving a ford expedition. The other car was a Jeep Cherokee. 

It was a $100,000 Jeep Tomahawk racing SUV.

[DrDawkinstein]

43 minutes ago, Bob Jones said:

Downtown Buffalo, on Ohio Street in the late 70s? LOL I was there. It was somewhat controlled, but years later when I was long gone from WNY, I read that somebody crashed, car got cut in half, and some spectators....which lined both sides of the one-way, 4-lane street....as well as people in the car died. I think the cops finally shut it down after that, but like I said, I was gone by then, so who knows?

 

We never raced through suburban streets though....that would have been crazy! LOL

 

My father, uncle, and all their teenage/college friends in Lackawana were big into the hot rod culture of the 60s (and into the 70s) and absolutely built cars and drag raced often on Fuhrmann or whatever that street is in front of the old Pier site.

 

It's part of American culture going back to the 50s.

 

It's just different now since populations are bigger, races have moved into more populated areas, and it's easier to get fast cars.

 

Not excusing it or normalizing it. But it isnt something new, or specific to the current generation.

 

It's tragic for everyone involved. And you'd think these kids in these positions would make better decisions. But at the same time, theyre still working on fully developing their prefrontal cortex at that age.