C.Biscuit97 Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 At first, it seemed like no big deal and something almost everyone has done. But I didn’t know it got someone killed, which could happen any time. Don’t think it hurts his stock that bad but it’s a really bad look. also, because of the defensive talent around him, imo, this guy is a bit overrated as it is. 2 2 Quote
78thealltimegreat Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 I’m going to let the legal process play out but if he’s involved I doubt he gets drafted now 4 Quote
Beck Water Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, CountDorkula said: Well, that speaking won't happen if Carter's legal defense team has anything to do with it. 33 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: At first, it seemed like no big deal and something almost everyone has done. But I didn’t know it got someone killed, which could happen any time. Don’t think it hurts his stock that bad but it’s a really bad look. also, because of the defensive talent around him, imo, this guy is a bit overrated as it is. Seriously, driving 104 mph in the opposite lane of traffic (edit: in a suburban area, no less) seems like "something almost everyone has done" to you? Edited March 1, 2023 by Beck Water 10 7 2 1 3 Quote
MJS Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: At first, it seemed like no big deal and something almost everyone has done. But I didn’t know it got someone killed, which could happen any time. Don’t think it hurts his stock that bad but it’s a really bad look. also, because of the defensive talent around him, imo, this guy is a bit overrated as it is. Almost everyone has drag raced down a busy street, swerving between lanes of traffic and even oncoming traffic? You really think that? 11 Quote
FireChans Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: At first, it seemed like no big deal and something almost everyone has done. But I didn’t know it got someone killed, which could happen any time. Don’t think it hurts his stock that bad but it’s a really bad look. also, because of the defensive talent around him, imo, this guy is a bit overrated as it is. Noted "I'm a good guy" C.Biscuit. Lmao. 1 Quote
Mark80 Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) Sad. Who the hell races an Expedition and Trackhawk? Stupid and sad. Edited March 1, 2023 by Mark80 4 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 Who hasn't raced and sped. My only real problem here, as far as a character concern, is if he knew the teammate was drunk. That changes things for me. Sad story, kids mistake no doubt. We're there prev character concerns? 1 1 Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Well, that speaking won't happen if Carter's legal defense team has anything to do with it. Seriously, driving 104 mph in the opposite lane of traffic seems like "something almost everyone has done" to you? I have done it and know about 100 people that have done it....several times. Boys get competitive and adrenaline, you'll have a guy trying to pass you in the other lane....hit the gas and talk trash with the windows down to your buddy in the next car. We did it heading home from college probably every time. The roads on the state lines between Alabama and Georgia are usually empty....long country roads. We would hit stretches of 100 mph. This is 20 year old thinking that you're invincible. This is why when I hear stories about this, even as bad as it is, I get more heartbroken than angry. Someone died that shouldn't and someone made a terrible a mistake. A mistake I've made and several others but we were lucky. I obviously don't do it anymore, people (most) mature and understand reality. 20 year old make stupid mistakes because they don't understand the reality yet. Edited March 1, 2023 by Royale with Cheese 4 3 Quote
PetermansRedemption Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 Who races in a Ford Expedition? That thing is as bulky as an old Bronco. And isn’t very fast at all. Quote
Mark80 Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Who hasn't raced and sped. My only real problem here, as far as a character concern, is if he knew the teammate was drunk. That changes things for me. Sad story, kids mistake no doubt. We're there prev character concerns? Not a teammate. Chandler was a woman staffer. The teammate that died was a passenger. 1 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 8 minutes ago, FireChans said: Noted "I'm a good guy" C.Biscuit. Lmao. I’m a great guy. I was being humble! 😉 I’m also honest. Did a lot of regrettable things, especially when I was younger, like speeding and worse. I got lucky that things didn’t end up worse. Looking back it was pretty stupid but I would be a total hypocrite to crush this guy. 2 1 Quote
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Who hasn't raced and sped. My only real problem here, as far as a character concern, is if he knew the teammate was drunk. That changes things for me. Sad story, kids mistake no doubt. Were their prev character concerns? I would bet the majority of college kids won’t even think about someone being drunk and racing. Sadly. 1 minute ago, HOUSE said: Cleveland or Kansas City Maybe Las Vegas I mean Vegas can’t pick him right? 1 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I have done it and know about 100 people that have done it....several times. Boys get competitive and adrenaline, you'll have a guy trying to pass you in the other lane. We did it heading home from college probably every time. The roads on the state lines between Alabama and Georgia are usually empty....long country roads. We would hit stretches of 100 mph. This is 20 year old thinking that you're invincible. This is why when I hear stories about this, even as bad as it is, I get more heartbroken than angry. Someone died that shouldn't and someone made a terrible a mistake. A mistake I've made and several others but we were lucky. I obviously don't do it anymore, people (most) mature and understand reality. 20 year old make stupid mistakes because they don't understand the reality yet. Thank you. i fully expect consistent pearl clutching here.... stupid decisions, but no doubt something most HS, college, and adult guys have done... but he didnt "kill his teammate". hes going to have a big fine, and carry this for life mentally, sad for all parties involved. white kid does this and its the good ol boy routine, black kd does it and im reading "thug" all over twitter. im so against the way race card gets thrown around now, its lost all meaning, but this fits it to a T 6 1 1 Quote
Beck Water Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I have done it and know about 100 people that have done it....several times. Good grief 11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: Boys get competitive and adrenaline, you'll have a guy trying to pass you in the other lane. We did it heading home from college probably every time. The roads on the state lines between Alabama and Georgia are usually empty....long country roads. We would hit stretches of 100 mph. This is 20 year old thinking that you're invincible. I get what you're saying about teenage/early 20s "invincible" thinking and testosterone-fueled pursuit of the "danger zone" But Barnett State Road just outside Athens is not a deserted straight long country road. It's suburban, heading into another town, where the crash occurred. It has a center turn lane (which they were reported to be using) and they were reported to be passing other motorists. Edited March 1, 2023 by Beck Water 2 1 Quote
gobills404 Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I have done it and know about 100 people that have done it....several times. Boys get competitive and adrenaline, you'll have a guy trying to pass you in the other lane. We did it heading home from college probably every time. The roads on the state lines between Alabama and Georgia are usually empty....long country roads. We would hit stretches of 100 mph. This is 20 year old thinking that you're invincible. I've done the same thing too, but that's not what Carter was (allegedly) doing. Going 100+ down a long empty road and going 100+ through an area with other cars on the road and likely people on the sidewalks are 2 completely different things. 1 3 Quote
BillsShredder83 Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I would bet the majority of college kids won’t even think about someone being drunk and racing. Sadly. I mean Vegas can’t pick him right? Didnt even think of this, 100% no they cant. yikes Quote
CountDorkula Posted March 1, 2023 Author Posted March 1, 2023 Just now, gobills404 said: I've done the same thing too, but that's not what Carter was (allegedly) doing. Going 100+ down a long empty road and going 100+ through an area with other cars on the road and likely people on the sidewalks are 2 completely different things. I feel like we are also ignoring the BAC levels that were reported. Did he bolt because he was also heavily intoxicated? Quote
Royale with Cheese Posted March 1, 2023 Posted March 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, gobills404 said: I've done the same thing too, but that's not what Carter was (allegedly) doing. Going 100+ down a long empty road and going 100+ through an area with other cars on the road and likely people on the sidewalks are 2 completely different things. I've done it more than on long empty roads. I've done it in the city. I never got it up to 100 mph in the city but in the 55 mph sections at 2:00 am....we would hit 90 mph driving home. 6 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Good grief I get what you're saying about teenage/early 20s male "invincible" thinking and testosterone-fueled pursuit of the "danger zone" But Barnett State Road just outside Athens is not a deserted straight long country road. It's suburban. It has a center turn lane (which they were reported to be using) and they were reported to be passing other motorists. I've done it several times not on long country roads. One spot in particular I know is known for it. It's 55 mph and people will race down at 2:00 am. Quote
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