Leslie Frazier "taking a year off from coaching" per Bills PR

[GunnerBill]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

So that's what, three coaches who have declined to return to the Bills staff this offseason?

 

Yea, albeit one was to take a promotion which is kinda more par for the course. It is two that have decided to walk away for non-promotions.

[Beck Water]

55 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

EXACTLY. In key moments in the playoffs it is about talent over scheme. Ex-*****-actly. Coaches coach. Players have to play. 

 

And yet, in terms of top draft picks and FA expenditure, the Bills D should have talent.

[ngbills]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

So that's what, three coaches who have declined to return to the Bills staff this offseason?

The talk the last few years of some problems behind the scenes could be true. . 

[Airseven]

7 minutes ago, PBF81 said:

 

Then they should say that.

 

Why? This kind of gentlemanly separation happens all the time. 

[BuffaninSarasota]

7 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Except what they have told you is the truth.

With all due respect, how do we know this is the truth?

 

This version of what's happened doesn't pass the smell test

[BillsFanSD]

1 hour ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Three games if we're being honest here:  Twice against KC and against the Bengals.  And the D wasn't exactly stellar against Indy in that playoff game either.  Came close to blowing a 24 - 10 4th quarter lead.

Our defense gave up 31 points to someone named Skylar Thompson.  

[FireChans]

23 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Apples and oranges. If I told you that the Bengals gained 30 first downs, had 412 yards in total Offense, rushed the ball for 172 yards, had 34 minutes TOP, had no turnovers and gave up only 1 sack what would you have thought?

 

If the Bengals had needed to score 40 points they could have. 

They didn’t though. They scored 14 points in the first Q and 13 the rest of the way.

 

The game was winnable if the offense showed up. 

[JerseyBills]

Why not inform them sooner? Alot of coordinators are gone. 

[FireChans]

14 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

The problem with that line of thinking is I'm convinced Cincy could've easily hung 40 on us had they wanted.  Instead, they simply decided to pound the rock and chew the clock in the second half because our defense couldn't stop it.

They pounded the rock and chewed clock before our offense couldn’t generate yards or points to put pressure on them.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Airseven said:

 

Why? This kind of gentlemanly separation happens all the time. 

It does when they don't want the guy back. Here it looks like they offered him a new contract and he declined.

[GunnerBill]

Just now, BuffaninSarasota said:

With all due respect, how do we know this is the truth?

 

This version of what's happened doesn't pass the smell test

 

See @HappyDays's post. 

 

And then hear what Brandon Beane told you.

 

So we have the GM's words and then a credible poster with links being told the same thing. 

1 minute ago, FireChans said:

They didn’t though. They scored 14 points in the first Q and 13 the rest of the way.

 

The game was winnable if the offense showed up. 

 

So I think the Bengals could have scored again if they needed to. But to win that game the Bills defense needed to keep Joe Burrow below 20 because the offense was even more horrific.

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, FireChans said:

They didn’t though. They scored 14 points in the first Q and 13 the rest of the way.

 

The game was winnable if the offense showed up. 

No it wasn't. They let Joe Mixon and his 3.9ypc regular season go for 105 on 20 carries. They were never even close to  winning that game.

[dave mcbride]

1 minute ago, GunnerBill said:

 

See @HappyDays's post. 

 

And then hear what Brandon Beane told you.

 

So we have the GM's words and then a credible poster with links being told the same thing. 

One does wonder if they lowballed him on the contract -- i.e., giving him an offer he could refuse. It's been 37 days since the end of the Bills' season, which is quite some time. But who really knows ...

[Solomon Grundy]

41 minutes ago, JoeF said:

Rex is still on the market....if Vance Joseph can go back to Denver..why not Rex...😉

 

Think McDermott would be using his hands for more than clapping 😎

[JerseyBills]

Let McD call plays

[holla83]

Does Al Holcomb become the DC?

[FireChans]

Just now, GoBills808 said:

No it wasn't. They let Joe Mixon and his 3.9ypc regular season go for 105 on 20 carries. They were never even close to  winning that game.

Agree to disagree.  IMO scoring 10 points made it a guaranteed loss.  If the Bills offense played well, it was a winnable game.

[nucci]

Just now, dave mcbride said:

One does wonder if they lowballed him on the contract -- i.e., giving him an offer he could refuse. It's been 37 days since the end of the Bills' season, which is quite some time. But who really knows ...

Beane , McDermott and Frazier

[Watching since 1964]

12 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Au contraire. The Panthers were absolutely dominant on D in 2013 and racked up 60 sacks. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/car/2013.htm

But did Sean get head coaching offers after 2013?
 

Point is McD benefited from Newton’s MVP season and the bright spotlight of the Super Bowl, which is how things work of course.

[FireChans]

5 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said:

Our defense gave up 31 points to someone named Skylar Thompson.  

our defense gave up a fumble six?