The Guardian Cap/ Much needed head protection/ Cleat design change

[Mr. WEO]

12 hours ago, Mango said:

It should start by being mandated by municipal leagues and pop warner teams. Also local school districts. 
 

Also college ball. 
 

At that point you’ll have a whole generation of kids who don’t know different. 
 

If it makes parents feel better about the game there’s likely a case (selling point) to be made that they can absorb the cost by increased membership dues. 

 

 

I agree kids should wear them for sure.   I just don't see the NFL making them mandatory. 

 

 

[Figster]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

 

I agree kids should wear them for sure.   I just don't see the NFL making them mandatory. 

 

 

When they already did last year during preseason in practices?

Edited February 28, 2023 by Figster

[Don Otreply]

14 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

players have no interest in this

Should this be true, it says something about football players…, 

[DasNootz]

OL will be the early adopters.  Hopefully Mitch will be one of them.

[T master]

Mark Kelso was a innovator of this type of thing & it worked very well for him i believe if nothing else they may be able to add the padding to the back of Tua's helmet or to the front of say a RB's helmet seeing as they usually lower their head or maybe have it made in the form of a mo hawk right down the center of the helmet 🤔 .

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, Figster said:

When they already did last year during preseason in practices?

 

so what?  Then where did they go?  It was only for linemen and LBs  and there's hardly any contact in those practices anyway so it's a bit cynical for them to have made a big deal about these things then.  

 

32 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Should this be true, it says something about football players…, 

 

They would prefer comfort and looks over improved safety.  But that's their choice

[BillsShredder83]

On 2/27/2023 at 10:50 AM, Gugny said:

 

Most stupid name and logo in the entire league.

I hate all the new names as much as anyone else, and Guardians is stupid, but I think the split finger logo is cool!

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

so what?  Then where did they go?  It was only for linemen and LBs  and there's hardly any contact in those practices anyway so it's a bit cynical for them to have made a big deal about these things then.  

 

 

They would prefer comfort and looks over improved safety.  But that's their choice

Likely not a comfort issue, it’s all about fashion over function, but hey, it’s not my brain 🧠…, 

[Figster]

34 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Likely not a comfort issue, it’s all about fashion over function, but hey, it’s not my brain 🧠…, 

Nothing has really been done to make the Guardian Cap less noticeable or more attractive IMO. So from a fashion standpoint its possible enough improvements could be made to make the cap acceptable to the players IMO.

[Don Otreply]

3 minutes ago, Figster said:

Nothing has really been done to make the Guardian Cap less noticeable or more attractive IMO. So from a fashion standpoint its possible enough improvements could be made to make the cap acceptable to the players IMO.

Not seeing how any of that is relevant to protecting one’s brain 🧠, I guess if the big guys wearing tight pants find a device that so obviously protects their brains from injury (in a sport that such injuries happen frequently) not fashionable enough well those snowflakes will just have to take their chances of getting CTE or worse now won’t they…, 

[Figster]

7 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Not seeing how any of that is relevant to protecting one’s brain 🧠, I guess if the big guys wearing tight pants find a device that so obviously protects their brains from injury (in a sport that such injuries happen frequently) not fashionable enough well those snowflakes will just have to take their chances of getting CTE or worse now won’t they…, 

Its relevant because NFL players are gladiators and entertainers. What they look like does matter. The modern day Gladiator needs better head protection so he can continue to entertain the world...

Edited February 28, 2023 by Figster

[Don Otreply]

1 minute ago, Figster said:

Its relevant because NFL players are gladiators and entertainers. What they look like does matter. The modern day Gladiator needs better head protection so he can continue to entertain the world...

Exactly why they will just have to take their chances with CTE or worse, it’s football not a bunch of fashionistas at the mall clothing stores…, 

[Mr. WEO]

13 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Not seeing how any of that is relevant to protecting one’s brain 🧠, I guess if the big guys wearing tight pants find a device that so obviously protects their brains from injury (in a sport that such injuries happen frequently) not fashionable enough well those snowflakes will just have to take their chances of getting CTE or worse now won’t they…, 

any supposed benefits of these helmets is theoretical.  There’s no known clinical benefit

[Figster]

21 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Exactly why they will just have to take their chances with CTE or worse, it’s football not a bunch of fashionistas at the mall clothing stores…, 

Setting an example for the younger generation and leading the pack is my hope. The exterior protection on helmets can help protect not only football players. All sports where head injury is possible IMO. It can also help protect bicyclist, motorcylclist, construction workers even IMO. The list goes on and on. Having been hit in the head myself working below other construction workers. I can tell you the extra outer hard hat protection would have clearly helped IMO.

Edited February 28, 2023 by Figster

[Figster]

25 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

any supposed benefits of these helmets is theoretical.  There’s no known clinical benefit

Its new technology so listen to some of the experiences in using the Guardian Cap from a coach that really cares like this one.

[Mr. WEO]

8 minutes ago, Figster said:

Its new technology so listen to some of the experiences in using the Guardian Cap from a coach that really cares like this one.

 

He doesn't have the HS kids where them during games, only practice.  It's a great idea for the little kids no doubt---the vast  majority of whom aren't going to play HS or college ball.

 

Reducing concussions is always a great goal.  This hasn't yet been proven to do so.   Also, CTE develops in the absence of concussions (known ones at least) as the result of hundreds of low impact/deceleration events involving the player's head.

 

 

[Figster]

20 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He doesn't have the HS kids where them during games, only practice.  It's a great idea for the little kids no doubt---the vast  majority of whom aren't going to play HS or college ball.

 

Reducing concussions is always a great goal.  This hasn't yet been proven to do so.   Also, CTE develops in the absence of concussions (known ones at least) as the result of hundreds of low impact/deceleration events involving the player's head.

 

 

I understand 

 

By reducing each helmet to helmet impact a minimum of 20% you can also see where cumulatively speaking it would help.

Edited February 28, 2023 by Figster

[Mr. WEO]

3 hours ago, Figster said:

I understand 

 

By reducing each helmet to helmet impact a minimum of 20% you can also see where cumulatively speaking it would help.

 

 

Possibly

[BillsShredder83]

6 hours ago, Figster said:

Its relevant because NFL players are gladiators and entertainers. What they look like does matter. The modern day Gladiator needs better head protection so he can continue to entertain the world...

Condoms, seat belts and bicycle helmets don't look very cool, yet every 20yr old wears those right? Riiiiiiiiiiiiighttttttttt

[Don Otreply]

7 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

any supposed benefits of these helmets is theoretical.  There’s no known clinical benefit

Could be, I certainly am not in the know,