SirAndrew Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: $500 million. I understand. But we’re talking about the NFL. That’s $500 million for the next 50 years! The Bills worth will triple over that time. The state and the Pegulas can afford the extra $500 million over 50 years for a closed roof NFL stadium. If the community demanded a dome we’d have a dome. The problem is the community thinks football should be played outdoors. I get your point, but think you’re giving too much credit to what the community wants as being a consideration. The Pegulas and New York State had no interest in shelling out more cash, so the fan “research” simply provided justification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 3 hours ago, SirAndrew said: I get your point, but think you’re giving too much credit to what the community wants as being a consideration. The Pegulas and New York State had no interest in shelling out more cash, so the fan “research” simply provided justification. Why would they? There is literally no push back at all. If we had a vote I’m pretty sure open air stadium would win the vote. Most likely for the dumbest reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 He'll play for whoever pays him what he wants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 On 2/25/2023 at 7:54 AM, balln said: Ooof. I always wonder. Do the bills have to overpay bc of New York taxes. Why isn’t there an adjustment for teams for cap. Seems like a competitive advantage for teams in states w forgiving tax laws It’s not the NFL’s responsibility to assess the tax implications in those states. Besides, the game checks are taxed in the state they play in so when the Bills play in FL or TX, there is no state tax. It would be impossible to manage. In addition, I work in medical sales. Now it’s not NFL$, but it’s for many of us multiple six figures. I’ve never worked for a company that adjusts for sales people and mgrs that reside in NYC, Boston, and San Fran. No company cares in my industry. The bottom line is these players need to know how to wisely invest so they have $ for the rest of their lives. More don’t than do and why they are broke 10 years after finishing their football career. It’s also silly they don’t take their off season to finish their degrees as now they can almost always do on line. On line has exploded in colleges since COVID. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 That’s his wife talking. She has seemed to be more interested in his contract then he has over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 On 2/25/2023 at 8:02 AM, GunnerBill said: I don't think that is what is happening with Poyer, but the general point is one I have wondered about too. I don't know enough about the US tax system though to really understand whether it is significant. NY has an 8% state income tax, so 80K of each million goes to the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 For those who don't think taxes matter in NY. ProFootballTalk on Twitter: "Jordan Poyer on free agency: I would love a state that doesn't take half my money. https://t.co/iqpVN7HN9U" / Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Article in the news https://www.foxbusiness.com/sports/nfl-free-agent-jordan-poyer-isnt-fan-states-that-take-half-my-money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 If the Bills gave Poyer the money and term he wanted at the beginning of the season, he would appear perfectly content. The problem is, at his age, and with the Bills' cap situation, signing him at that money and term is a poor investment. Poyer does deserve it. He was fantastic here and played through a lot of ouchies. Love the player and his place in the history of this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNPAID BILLS Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 At least Waddle and Hill won't be flying past him if he leaves.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 3 hours ago, May Day 10 said: If the Bills gave Poyer the money and term he wanted at the beginning of the season, he would appear perfectly content. The problem is, at his age, and with the Bills' cap situation, signing him at that money and term is a poor investment. Poyer does deserve it. He was fantastic here and played through a lot of ouchies. Love the player and his place in the history of this team. Jordan was great for us and a true warrior. Had a chance to meet uncle and mother at 13 sec game and they were good people. The Bills and community though were also great to him in terms of comp in grand scheme of things and supporting him through his personal battles. Really wish he just stayed quiet in comments as we all know he is likely leaving. I guess I will still kinda root for him but a little less and a lot less when Bills are playing and if he is with the stinky fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 7 hours ago, GreggTX said: He'll play for whoever pays him what he wants. Yep, at this point in an NFL career guys who can still play become mercenaries. Bruce/ Thomas/ Reed/ Bennett all did. Even QBs like Montana and Favre did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 5 hours ago, BananaB said: That’s his wife talking. She has seemed to be more interested in his contract then he has over the years. More vocal about it, certainly, but at the end of the day Poyer will listen to his agents and not his wife. But yeah, Poyer knows he's coming to the end of his career. Buffalo sweetened his contract in 2022 as a "thank you", but he's gotta go for the best guaranteed $$ he can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Gregg said: For those who don't think taxes matter in NY. ProFootballTalk on Twitter: "Jordan Poyer on free agency: I would love a state that doesn't take half my money. https://t.co/iqpVN7HN9U" / Twitter 5 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Article in the news https://www.foxbusiness.com/sports/nfl-free-agent-jordan-poyer-isnt-fan-states-that-take-half-my-money First this is false - the highest tax rate is 10% or so. That is not even close to 50%. And that is before all the accounting tricks to pay much less than that. We all have to pay taxes, millionaires pay less % wise than most because they can afford to use tax strategies Second you sound like a Jacka$$ complaining about paying taxes on a $10M/yr contract. Player salaries have gone up so much that average fans cant even go to games anymore and your complaining about taxes. People buying your jerseys pay them too. And a ton of public resources go to having pro sports so if anyone should pay taxes its you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 “I gotta feed my family”…Latrell Sprewell cant do that on just $21m i gotta pay taxes on my Millions….Poyer Bad look for a player on the downside after a City embraced him and he made Millions upon Millions. And a city where he didn’t have to spend 5M on a house to live in a great neighborhood. Still love what he did for us but time to move on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 poyer has outperformed his contracts with buffalo.....only a few can say that. its time to move on, he's old, lost a step and that playoff game vs cincy he was awful. his comments about taxes.....he aint wrong.....big advantage for teams in states with low taxes hope he lands a big contract somewhere....just not with us....i want that money invested in the Oline tip of the hat to poyer....a great bill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, papazoid said: poyer has outperformed his contracts with buffalo.....only a few can say that. its time to move on, he's old, lost a step and that playoff game vs cincy he was awful. his comments about taxes.....he aint wrong.....big advantage for teams in states with low taxes hope he lands a big contract somewhere....just not with us....i want that money invested in the Oline tip of the hat to poyer....a great bill He was playing through multiple injuries in the Cincy game though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: He was playing through multiple injuries in the Cincy game though Plenty of players were. He was totally lost out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 9 hours ago, BananaB said: That’s his wife talking. She has seemed to be more interested in his contract then he has over the years. See I don’t get this take at all. Why, because she wants her husband to make as much money as possible? Because she wants a say in where he plays next? Because they live in Florida and god forbid she would like it if he was there? Sound like pretty much every other wife of every other player. yes she has made comments about his contract in the past, but she’s never bashed Buffalo, in fact has spoken highly of it. She supports the team and wants what is best for her and her family. why aren’t people in every thread calling out the wives or girlfriends of players who might go and play somewhere else? We all know why, but is anyone actually able to admit it? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, papazoid said: lost a step and that playoff game vs cincy he was awful. He's sad that his likely last game with the Bills was his worst. I have to think he was injured as he had never played so bad. Whatever his intent for the future, I'm sure he was all in while he was here, and would have wanted a SB win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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