Saxum Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 5:14 PM, 4merper4mer said: Jackson takes up cricket and moves to India? Expand Only if they will give his mother a coaching job. Quote
Doc Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 3:45 PM, FireChans said: Or, third option, LJ is sitting out an entire year and hoping he can swing a Watson deal next season. Expand No chance. The NFL will ensure he doesn't get a Watson-type deal next year if he sits out. 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 6:33 PM, Doc said: No chance. The NFL will ensure he doesn't get a Watson-type deal next year if he sits out. Expand It's not even nefarious collusion. It's just smart business, and most teams being far smarter than the Browns. 1 4 Quote
purple haze Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 1:28 PM, FireChans said: What do you mean they could trade him for 2 picks already? Who is negotiating with Lamar right now? Expand His rights still belong to the Ravens. I believe they can trade those rights. The Ravens are trying to play things out with the non-exclusive tag but Jackson has no intention of playing for the Ravens. Quote
Scott7975 Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 3:30 PM, TheFunPolice said: If Lamar is determined not to play there anymore then the Ravens should cash in now while his price would be highest. Don't be the Packers and let it become personal and petty. Do what is good for business. You don't want to be the team holding a young, superstar QB's career hostage from either a PR or business standpoint. If they announced that they were willing to do a traditional trade then there would be suitors and they could get a huge haul. Expand If another team wanted him they could get him. There is no interest in him for 2 first round picks and a contract better than Watson. That should be clear to you by now. He isnt good enough for that deal plus injury worries. 1 Quote
TheFunPolice Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 7:03 PM, Scott7975 said: If another team wanted him they could get him. There is no interest in him for 2 first round picks and a contract better than Watson. That should be clear to you by now. He isnt good enough for that deal plus injury worries. Expand IMO teams feel that the Ravens would just match anyway, making it a waste of their (the new team's) time 1 Quote
purple haze Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 6:33 PM, Doc said: No chance. The NFL will ensure he doesn't get a Watson-type deal next year if he sits out. Expand They’re already ensuring it. But if he really doesn’t want to be in Baltimore sitting out is his option. He couldn’t trust they’ll work out a deal to trade him if he shows up. After his tweets today, the Ravens better start plan B. On 3/27/2023 at 4:33 PM, DrDawkinstein said: Sounds like you are on to something. However, I have to ask. Why do you think they'd be able to pull off this far more complex process when no one could make the simplest processes work? Do you really think there is a team out there willing to pay him $270M guaranteed, but not give up two 1sts for a QB who they think is worth $270M? JMO, but I dont think the two 1sts are the thing that is holding this all up. Expand He’ll take less elsewhere, but not from the Ravens. That’s the way things look at this point. I think there is bad blood between Jackson and the organization. Quote
Scott7975 Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 7:04 PM, TheFunPolice said: IMO teams feel that the Ravens would just match anyway, making it a waste of their (the new team's) time Expand I dont think so. The dude flat wants a contract better than Watson and wont budge. Thats the waste of time. No one is paying him that even without the picks. If he was worth that much to a team then the picks would be worth it too. If the Ravens were willing to match a contract that Lamar would sign then they would already have given him that contract. 2 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 7:04 PM, TheFunPolice said: IMO teams feel that the Ravens would just match anyway, making it a waste of their (the new team's) time Expand Doubtful. Since Lamar is very clear in what he wants and the Ravens already said no. If he found a team that was willing to pay him $270M, the Ravens arent stealing that deal. They couldve done that a year ago. Quote
FireChans Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 5:00 PM, Virgil said: How do you mean. Until the tag is signed, the Ravens could trade him for a 7th round pick if they wanted. Am I incorrect? Expand Yes On 3/27/2023 at 6:33 PM, Doc said: No chance. The NFL will ensure he doesn't get a Watson-type deal next year if he sits out. Expand I don’t think he will either but he may think he will. Quote
Mango Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 I never thought I would say this, but I think that Lamar could more or less negotiate himself out of the league. 3 Quote
HerdMenatlity1 Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 9:00 PM, FireChans said: Yes I don’t think he will either but he may think he will. Expand He hasn’t signed the tender yet, so he can’t be traded. Per Scheffler on ESPN. On 3/27/2023 at 9:13 PM, Dopey said: On 3/27/2023 at 7:02 PM, purple haze said: His rights still belong to the Ravens. I believe they can trade those rights. The Ravens are trying to play things out with the non-exclusive tag but Jackson has no intention of playing for the Ravens. Expand He hasn’t signed the tender yet, so he can’t be traded. Per Scheffler on ESPN just a few minutes ago Expand 1 Quote
DrDawkinstein Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 9:04 PM, Mango said: I never thought I would say this, but I think that Lamar could more or less negotiate himself out of the league. Expand The problem is he isnt negotiating. He has a single demand, take it or leave it. He's gonna have quite the shocked pikachu face when the NFL decides "leave it". 4 1 Quote
FireChans Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 9:13 PM, Dopey said: He hasn’t signed the tender yet, so he can’t be traded. Per Scheffler on ESPN. Expand I know. He was was wrong. I answered his question. 1 Quote
Saxum Posted March 27, 2023 Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 6:33 PM, Doc said: No chance. The NFL will ensure he doesn't get a Watson-type deal next year if he sits out. Expand Maybe he has to do what Browns QB did - assault women and get a year off paid. Quote
Scott7975 Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 11:42 PM, DrDawkinstein said: what the actual ***** lamar Expand Yeah like BB is going to give that guy a 250+mil fully guaranteed contract. They paid Brady peanuts. 1 1 Quote
Doc Posted March 28, 2023 Posted March 28, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 12:02 AM, Scott7975 said: Yeah like BB is going to give that guy a 250+mil fully guaranteed contract. They paid Brady peanuts. Expand That. Not to mention also giving the hated Ravens 2-1st rounders. 1 Quote
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