Airseven Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Priority free agents: The rest: 1. Edmunds 2. Jackson 3. Dodson 4. Martin 5. Lawson 6. Keenum 7. Singletary 8. Poyer 9. Matakevich 10. Crowder 11. Lewis 12. Phillips 13. Klein 14. Jones 15. Johnson 16. Marlowe 17. Quessenberry 18. Kumerow 19. Hart 20. Boettger 21. Sweeney 22. Murray 23. Saffold 24. Van Roten Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Yikes…..That seems like a really long list. Does anyone know what the league average looks like? Or how this year’s number compares to recent Bills’ rosters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD716 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, SCBills said: This plan has us leveraging the future just to re-sign our own. Allen restructure gets us out of cap jail. Then we need pull a couple more levers to free up Edmunds money. We would need to restructure every candidate we have, and likely backload contracts/void years, just to bring back two core defenders on a defense that hasn't stepped up when it matters. So how do we replace all these starters. We have 1 safety under contract in Hyde. We saw what the lack of a starting slot looked like last year. We saw what Basham and Epenesa looked like( cut both) We need to bring back Lawson as a quality backup. Punter , we need one and he did great. We only have 5 OL signed for next year and we need depth/starters at left guard and right tackle. We saw what defense looked like without Poyer/Edmonds. Cut Hines ,Settle and McKenzie and then restructure some other contracts 2 hours ago, SCBills said: 2 hours ago, SCBills said: 2 hours ago, SCBills said: Edited February 22, 2023 by TD716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 I know many here despise PFF.... But I wonder what the PFF rankings are for our Free Agents? Please post if you have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, TD716 said: So how do we replace all these starters. We have 1 safety under contract in Hyde. We saw what the lack of a starting slot looked like last year. We saw what Basham and Epenesa looked like( cut both) We need to bring back Lawson as a quality backup. Punter , we need one and he did great. We only have 5 OL signed for next year and we need depth/starters at left guard and right tackle. We saw what defense looked like without Poyer/Edmonds. Cut Hines ,Settle and McKenzie and then restructure some other contracts We replace Edmunds with a vet MLB at a third of the cost, draft a Safety and/or bring back Marlowe to compete with Benford as we transition him to Safety. Trade Oliver and draft his replacement. Cut underperforming guys like Settle and Basham. Sign another pass rusher like Melvin Ingram. The Defense needs to shift and we can't do that by running it back... and even worse, mortgaging future years to bring back BOTH Edmunds and Poyer. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TD716 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 hours ago, SCBills said: This plan has us leveraging the future just to re-sign our own. Allen restructure gets us out of cap jail. Then we need pull a couple more levers to free up Edmunds money. We would need to restructure every candidate we have, and likely backload contracts/void years, just to bring back two core defenders on a defense that hasn't stepped up when it matters. I would love to get it all done thru the draft while throwing in the towel on 2 first round draft picks after their rookie deals are done. We will need starters at RT,LG,WR2, RB, DT,MLB,S ,slot WR and backups at LB,S,OL,DT,QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: Yikes…..That seems like a really long list. Does anyone know what the league average looks like? Or how this year’s number compares to recent Bills’ rosters? Given the Bills cap situation, it'll be another year of Beane filling out at least 1/3 of the roster with dumpster vets on one-year deals. Not sure if it's intentional or not, but it's become his methodology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Not a single one that’s actually tough to replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Here are the 18 guys I would draft to replace these free agents: (I traded down several times) 3 CBs 2 Centers 2 Guards 1 Tackle 3 WRs 2 LBs 1 S 2 DL 2 RBs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Airseven said: Given the Bills cap situation, it'll be another year of Beane filling out at least 1/3 of the roster with dumpster vets on one-year deals. Not sure if it's intentional or not, but it's become his methodology. ....and nothing screams SB like dumpster dive olineman. Beane hit homeruns with Josh & Stefon. But after them it's been mostly dribblers back to the mound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 4 hours ago, TD716 said: I would love to get it all done thru the draft while throwing in the towel on 2 first round draft picks after their rookie deals are done. We will need starters at RT,LG,WR2, RB, DT,MLB,S ,slot WR and backups at LB,S,OL,DT,QB. At least we have our QB and Kicker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 9 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Here’s the game: rank our 24 free agents from most likely to least likely to re-sign. Unrestricted free agents: OG Ike Boettger Re-sign back-up WR Jamison Crowder Walk LB Tremaine Edwards Tag & Trade OT Bobby Hart Re-sign back-up S Jaquan Johnson Walk RB Taiwan Jones Walk QB Case Keenum Walk LB A.J. Klein Re-sign and see how he looks in camp WR Jake Kumerow Walk DE Shaq Lawson Re-sign S Dean Marlowe Re-sign back-up P Sam Martin Walk LB Tyler Matakevich Walk OT Justin Murray Walk DT Jordan Phillips Walk S Jordan Poyer Bring back, but only of you get a good deal OG David Quessenberry Walk OG Rodger Saffold Walk RB Devin Singletary Walk TE Tommy Sweeney Walk OG Greg Van Roten Walk Restricted free agents: LB Tyler Dodson Re-sign CB Dane Jackson Re-sign CB Cam Lewis Walk Obviously you don’t have to do all 24, but I figured this is the perfect time since no one has been re-upped or tagged yet. 🦬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 7 hours ago, T master said: Yah i know but 24 + players in one season seems a bit high . 5 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Yikes…..That seems like a really long list. Does anyone know what the league average looks like? Or how this year’s number compares to recent Bills’ rosters? Miami has 29, NYJ have 24 and the Patriots have 18. Spotrac has 712 FAs on the 32 teams. Comes to 22.25 per team. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 4 hours ago, TD716 said: I would love to get it all done thru the draft while throwing in the towel on 2 first round draft picks after their rookie deals are done. We will need starters at RT,LG,WR2, RB, DT,MLB,S ,slot WR and backups at LB,S,OL,DT,QB. It's quite scary with a tight cap and no extra picks. Epenesa could be moved for a 5th, but there's no one else under contract (and with value) who they'd realistically try to trade. Losing Oliver wouldn't be worth the return due to his contract. Harsh reality is that guys like Brown (RT) and Davis (WR2) will remain starters because there's no avenues for improvement. And they'll still have gaping holes at RB, WR3, OG, DE, MLB, and S among starters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Chaos said: Here are the 18 guys I would draft to replace these free agents: (I traded down several times) 3 CBs 2 Centers 2 Guards 1 Tackle 3 WRs 2 LBs 1 S 2 DL 2 RBs It's a little hard to read, but you were able to draft 18 players? That would be all-time record I suspect (since the draft went to just 7 rounds) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 4 hours ago, ColoradoBills said: Miami has 29, NYJ have 24 and the Patriots have 18. Spotrac has 712 FAs on the 32 teams. Comes to 22.25 per team. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/ Thanks Colorado Pretty amazing how much turnover there is year over year, and the vast majority comes in free agency. By the time they get to camp just about all of the roster spots are set in stone, with the infamous ‘camp battles’ coming down to just a couple of special team reserves who’ll rarely contribute much of anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 19 hours ago, Airseven said: Given the Bills cap situation, it'll be another year of Beane filling out at least 1/3 of the roster with dumpster vets on one-year deals. Not sure if it's intentional or not, but it's become his methodology. It’s every teams methodology 14 hours ago, Airseven said: It's quite scary with a tight cap and no extra picks. Epenesa could be moved for a 5th, but there's no one else under contract (and with value) who they'd realistically try to trade. Losing Oliver wouldn't be worth the return due to his contract. Harsh reality is that guys like Brown (RT) and Davis (WR2) will remain starters because there's no avenues for improvement. And they'll still have gaping holes at RB, WR3, OG, DE, MLB, and S among starters. There are not gaping holes at at least three of those positions. You would like to see work for improvement, but you could totally go into the season at running back Wide receiver Defensive end Middle linebacker unless Edmonds is gone Stop with the ***** hyper bole 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 2 hours ago, John from Riverside said: There are not gaping holes at at least three of those positions. You would like to see work for improvement, but you could totally go into the season at running back Wide receiver Defensive end Middle linebacker unless Edmonds is gone Stop with the ***** hyper bole You think that relying on players like Cook, McKenzie, Shakir, Epenesa, Basham, Dodson, and Bernard is a sound strategy for next season. Terrific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 17 hours ago, chongli said: It's a little hard to read, but you were able to draft 18 players? That would be all-time record I suspect (since the draft went to just 7 rounds) Yes. Without giving up players or future draft picks, simply trading down in this draft. While this is possible in PFF world I don't think it could happen in real life. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Airseven said: You think that relying on players like Cook, McKenzie, Shakir, Epenesa, Basham, Dodson, and Bernard is a sound strategy for next season. Terrific. We just did it on a 13 and three team But let’s dive a little deeper When you have to start paying a franchise QB, you have to start relying on your draft picks. You can’t have a solidified veteran at every position. James cook was taking reps away from Devon Singletary by the time that the season was over and he was doing well with it now I’m not saying that James Cook is in every down back so there’s gonna have to be another player there but we had Duke Johnson sitting on the practice squad never used him I have made it well known that my first round pick would be Bijan Robinson but that’s because he is probably the only guy that has a first round grade that might be available at 27 maybe I would bet that McKenzie is not going to be brought back for any amount of money that’s going to end up being shakurjob to lose There is absolutely no reason to believe that the bills are going to rely on Dodson or Benard that’s just you trying to push your ***** narrative on everybody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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