Rank our 24 Free Agents

[Airseven]

Priority free agents:

 

The rest:

1. Edmunds

2. Jackson

3. Dodson

4. Martin

5. Lawson

6. Keenum

7. Singletary

8. Poyer

9. Matakevich

10. Crowder

11. Lewis

12. Phillips

13. Klein

14. Jones

15. Johnson

16. Marlowe

17. Quessenberry

18. Kumerow

19. Hart

20. Boettger

21. Sweeney

22. Murray

23. Saffold

24. Van Roten

[SoCal Deek]

Yikes…..That seems like a really long list. Does anyone know what the league average looks like? Or how this year’s number compares to recent Bills’ rosters? 

[TD716]

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

 

This plan has us leveraging the future just to re-sign our own.  

 

Allen restructure gets us out of cap jail. 

 

Then we need pull a couple more levers to free up Edmunds money.   

 

We would need to restructure every candidate we have, and likely backload contracts/void years, just to bring back two core defenders on a defense that hasn't stepped up when it matters.  

So how do we replace all these starters. We have 1 safety under contract in Hyde. We saw what the lack of a starting slot looked like last year. We saw what Basham and Epenesa looked like( cut both) We need to bring back Lawson as a quality backup. Punter , we need one and he did great. We only have 5 OL signed for next year and we need depth/starters at left guard and right tackle. We saw what defense looked like without Poyer/Edmonds. Cut Hines ,Settle and McKenzie and then restructure some other contracts 

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Edited February 22, 2023 by TD716

[Yantha]

I know many here despise PFF....

 

But I wonder what the PFF rankings are for our Free Agents?  Please post if you have it.

[SCBills]

12 minutes ago, TD716 said:

So how do we replace all these starters. We have 1 safety under contract in Hyde. We saw what the lack of a starting slot looked like last year. We saw what Basham and Epenesa looked like( cut both) We need to bring back Lawson as a quality backup. Punter , we need one and he did great. We only have 5 OL signed for next year and we need depth/starters at left guard and right tackle. We saw what defense looked like without Poyer/Edmonds. Cut Hines ,Settle and McKenzie and then restructure some other contracts 

 

We replace Edmunds with a vet MLB at a third of the cost, draft a Safety and/or bring back Marlowe to compete with Benford as we transition him to Safety. 

 

Trade Oliver and draft his replacement.  Cut underperforming guys like Settle and Basham.  Sign another pass rusher like Melvin Ingram.  

 

The Defense needs to shift and we can't do that by running it back... and even worse, mortgaging future years to bring back BOTH Edmunds and Poyer. 

[TD716]

2 hours ago, SCBills said:

 

This plan has us leveraging the future just to re-sign our own.  

 

Allen restructure gets us out of cap jail. 

 

Then we need pull a couple more levers to free up Edmunds money.   

 

We would need to restructure every candidate we have, and likely backload contracts/void years, just to bring back two core defenders on a defense that hasn't stepped up when it matters.  

I would love to get it all done thru the draft while throwing in the towel on 2 first round draft picks after their rookie deals are done. We will need starters at RT,LG,WR2, RB, DT,MLB,S ,slot WR and backups at LB,S,OL,DT,QB. 

[Airseven]

1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said:

Yikes…..That seems like a really long list. Does anyone know what the league average looks like? Or how this year’s number compares to recent Bills’ rosters? 

 

Given the Bills cap situation, it'll be another year of Beane filling out at least 1/3 of the roster with dumpster vets on one-year deals. Not sure if it's intentional or not, but it's become his methodology.

[DCofNC]

Not a single one that’s actually tough to replace.

[Chaos]

Here are the 18 guys  I would draft to replace these free agents: (I traded down several times)

3 CBs

2 Centers

2 Guards

1 Tackle

3 WRs

2 LBs

1 S

2 DL
2 RBs

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, Airseven said:

 

Given the Bills cap situation, it'll be another year of Beane filling out at least 1/3 of the roster with dumpster vets on one-year deals. Not sure if it's intentional or not, but it's become his methodology.

....and nothing screams SB like dumpster dive olineman.  Beane hit homeruns with Josh & Stefon.  But after them it's been mostly dribblers back to the mound.

[frostbitmic]

4 hours ago, TD716 said:

I would love to get it all done thru the draft while throwing in the towel on 2 first round draft picks after their rookie deals are done. We will need starters at RT,LG,WR2, RB, DT,MLB,S ,slot WR and backups at LB,S,OL,DT,QB. 

At least we have our QB and Kicker.

[Mark Vader]

9 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said:

Here’s the game: rank our 24 free agents from most likely to least likely to re-sign. 
 

Unrestricted free agents:

OG Ike Boettger   Re-sign back-up

WR Jamison Crowder  Walk

LB Tremaine Edwards  Tag & Trade

OT Bobby Hart  Re-sign back-up

S Jaquan Johnson   Walk

RB Taiwan Jones   Walk

QB Case Keenum   Walk

LB A.J. Klein   Re-sign and see how he looks in camp

WR Jake Kumerow   Walk

DE Shaq Lawson   Re-sign

S Dean Marlowe   Re-sign back-up

P Sam Martin    Walk

LB Tyler Matakevich    Walk

OT Justin Murray    Walk

DT Jordan Phillips   Walk

S Jordan Poyer     Bring back, but only of you get a good deal

OG David Quessenberry    Walk

OG Rodger Saffold    Walk

RB Devin Singletary   Walk

TE Tommy Sweeney   Walk

OG Greg Van Roten    Walk

 

Restricted free agents:

LB Tyler Dodson   Re-sign

CB Dane Jackson   Re-sign

CB Cam Lewis    Walk 

 

Obviously you don’t have to do all 24, but I figured this is the perfect time since no one has been re-upped or tagged yet.

 

🦬

 

[ColoradoBills]

7 hours ago, T master said:

 

 

Yah i know but 24 + players in one season seems a bit high .

 

5 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Yikes…..That seems like a really long list. Does anyone know what the league average looks like? Or how this year’s number compares to recent Bills’ rosters? 

 

Miami has 29, NYJ have 24 and the Patriots have 18.

 

Spotrac has 712 FAs on the 32 teams.  Comes to 22.25 per team.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

 

 

[Airseven]

4 hours ago, TD716 said:

I would love to get it all done thru the draft while throwing in the towel on 2 first round draft picks after their rookie deals are done. We will need starters at RT,LG,WR2, RB, DT,MLB,S ,slot WR and backups at LB,S,OL,DT,QB. 

 

It's quite scary with a tight cap and no extra picks. Epenesa could be moved for a 5th, but there's no one else under contract (and with value) who they'd realistically try to trade. Losing Oliver wouldn't be worth the return due to his contract.

 

Harsh reality is that guys like Brown (RT) and Davis (WR2) will remain starters because there's no avenues for improvement. And they'll still have gaping holes at RB, WR3, OG, DE, MLB, and S among starters.

[chongli]

5 hours ago, Chaos said:

Here are the 18 guys  I would draft to replace these free agents: (I traded down several times)

3 CBs

2 Centers

2 Guards

1 Tackle

3 WRs

2 LBs

1 S

2 DL
2 RBs

 

It's a little hard to read, but you were able to draft 18 players? That would be all-time record I suspect (since the draft went to just 7 rounds)

[SoCal Deek]

4 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

 

Miami has 29, NYJ have 24 and the Patriots have 18.

 

Spotrac has 712 FAs on the 32 teams.  Comes to 22.25 per team.

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/

 

 

Thanks Colorado

Pretty amazing how much turnover there is year over year, and the vast majority comes in free agency. By the time they get to camp just about all of the roster spots are set in stone, with the infamous ‘camp battles’ coming down to just a couple of special team reserves who’ll rarely contribute much of anything. 

[John from Riverside]

19 hours ago, Airseven said:

 

Given the Bills cap situation, it'll be another year of Beane filling out at least 1/3 of the roster with dumpster vets on one-year deals. Not sure if it's intentional or not, but it's become his methodology.

It’s every teams methodology

14 hours ago, Airseven said:

 

It's quite scary with a tight cap and no extra picks. Epenesa could be moved for a 5th, but there's no one else under contract (and with value) who they'd realistically try to trade. Losing Oliver wouldn't be worth the return due to his contract.

 

Harsh reality is that guys like Brown (RT) and Davis (WR2) will remain starters because there's no avenues for improvement. And they'll still have gaping holes at RB, WR3, OG, DE, MLB, and S among starters.

There are not gaping holes at at least three of those positions. You would like to see work for improvement, but you could totally go into the season at

 

running back

Wide receiver

Defensive end

Middle linebacker unless Edmonds is gone

 

Stop with the ***** hyper bole

[Airseven]

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

There are not gaping holes at at least three of those positions. You would like to see work for improvement, but you could totally go into the season at

 

running back

Wide receiver

Defensive end

Middle linebacker unless Edmonds is gone

 

Stop with the ***** hyper bole

 

You think that relying on players like Cook, McKenzie, Shakir, Epenesa, Basham, Dodson, and Bernard is a sound strategy for next season. Terrific.

[Chaos]

17 hours ago, chongli said:

 

It's a little hard to read, but you were able to draft 18 players? That would be all-time record I suspect (since the draft went to just 7 rounds)

Yes. Without giving up players or future draft picks, simply trading down in this draft.  While this is possible in PFF world I don't think it could happen in real life. 

[John from Riverside]

5 hours ago, Airseven said:

 

You think that relying on players like Cook, McKenzie, Shakir, Epenesa, Basham, Dodson, and Bernard is a sound strategy for next season. Terrific.

We just did it on a 13 and three team
 

But let’s dive a little deeper

 

When you have to start paying a franchise QB, you have to start relying on your draft picks. You can’t have a solidified veteran at every position.

 

James cook was taking reps away from Devon Singletary by the time that the season was over and he was doing well with it now I’m not saying that James Cook is in every down back so there’s gonna have to be another player there but we had Duke Johnson sitting on the practice squad never used him I have made it well known that my first round pick would be Bijan Robinson but that’s because he is probably the only guy that has a first round grade that might be available at 27 maybe

 

I would bet that McKenzie is not going to be brought back for any amount of money that’s going to end up being shakurjob to lose

 

There is absolutely no reason to believe that the bills are going to rely on Dodson or Benard that’s just you trying to push your ***** narrative on everybody