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 Other than Roger Saffold the biggest miss on the entire roster was the belief that Gabe who is a really good 3 receiver is a good 2 receiver. 
  I don’t blame Brandon for feeling he really didn’t need to upgrade based on the Chiefs game. 
 He just isn’t he doesn’t even run an entire route tree ask Patrick Peterson. 
 Next year I’ll be very happy moving him inside with an upgrade to the outside. 
 

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31 minutes ago, Chaos said:

Gabe Davis is a bit of an anomaly on the current Bills. His best play comes in the playoffs rather than the regular season.  

 

The reason I asking "Do the Bills Under Appreciate Gabe Davis?" is because Spotrac ranks him as having a higher market value than either Tremaine Edmunds, Ed Oliver or Jordan Poyer. Spotrac bases is ranking on actual production vs comps.  No eye tests involved.  Based on production, the comps Spotrac sees for Davis are Christian Kirk, Russell Gage, Michael Gallup, Hunter Renfrow.  For all of the discussion around Tremaine Edmunds being virtually a child in years, Davis is actually a year younger, and only 23  now.  He will be the same age as Edmunds when he becomes a free agent next year. 

 

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this data is comparing his numbers from 21-22 and not what he did 22-23. he REGRESSED big time. Gabe's catch rate is extremely low this year. They put him at #2 WR and HE FAILED... Why do you think they rushed to add wr's at the end of the year? cause if Gabe was doing his job then it would not be an issue.

 

Someone around here with full PFF stats, please show this guy what gabe produced and his numbers compared to others on this list this LAST YEAR... not the year before...

 

please... your acting like this year didnt happen

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Davis was one of 42 receivers with more than 93 regular season targets last season.

 

Among those 42 receivers, he was:

- last in receptions (48)

- last in catch percentage (51.6%)

- 30th in receiving yards (836)

- 36th in catches that resulted in first downs (35)

- tied for 12th in TD receptions (7)

 

He had 3 or fewer catches in 10/15 of his regular season games.

 

Courtesy of The Buffalo News 

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1 minute ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

Davis was targeted 93 times last year.

he had 48 receptions and 8 drops (analytical sites show 7 or 8 )

That is 56 targets.

What were the other 37 'targets'? (40%)

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6 minutes ago, Ramza86 said:

I think Gabe is a good player. 

 

While hes had some annoying drops, I think hes made some much bigger catches in needed situations. 

 

I think he needs to keep working on his craft and we need someone upstairs who can create football plays that allows players to get open.

 

 

.....allows players to get open for reasons other than the QB had to scramble out of a collapsed pocket.

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32 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

Do the Bills? No. Do Bills fans? Yes, some. He is a lower end #2 receiver but there are folks on here saying he is a #3 or a #4 and that is plain wrong. Spotrac's projections are not always my cup of tea but Michael Gallop as a comparator for Gabe makes a ton of sense. Similar level of player. A lower end #2 who makes big plays but has a low catch rate. 

 

I think it's a legitimate argument to say he's a #3.  He's too unreliable to be a #2.  He's a big play guy but not consistent.  

I think a low end #2 is Emmanuel Sanders last year.

 

Gabe Davis to me could be an okay #2 if he isn't #2 in targets.  If we involved Dawson Knox in the passing game more and have a really strong slot...maybe Gabe could work.

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1 minute ago, Bermuda Triangle said:

Davis was one of 42 receivers with more than 93 regular season targets last season.

 

Among those 42 receivers, he was:

- last in receptions (48)

- last in catch percentage (51.6%)

- 30th in receiving yards (836)

- 36th in catches that resulted in first downs (35)

- tied for 12th in TD receptions (7)

 

He had 3 or fewer catches in 10/15 of his regular season games.

 

Courtesy of The Buffalo News 

Not to mention a bunch of Allen’s interceptions were Davis targets. Idk if it was David’ fault, but those guys were not on the same page all year.

 

A #2 WR who can get separation and catch consistently should produce like a #1 in this offense. Considering how many targets they get and how good Allen is.

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5 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

Davis was targeted 93 times last year.

he had 48 receptions and 8 drops (analytical sites show 7 or 8 )

That is 56 targets.

What were the other 37 'targets'? (40%)

your mixing catch percent with drop rate.

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Bills? No

Fans? Yes but understandably so. He has shown some incredible flashes in his time here.

 

The Bills gambled he could move up to a true WR2 roll last year and the results were middling for what you want/depend on with a WR2. For fans that was a let down, but realistically he produced the same as he had which is more a WR3 role. I have said he is a perfect WR3, but I doubt he will take a contract like that after next season. If he ever wants to elevate his role he needs to use his body far better in contested catches and more importantly be more reliable as a pass catcher #baddrops

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3 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

.....allows players to get open for reasons other than the QB had to scramble out of a collapsed pocket.

 

That is a massive problem yes. Oline has been awful for Allens entire career though, Daboll at least was able to hide it a little better than Dorsey.

 

I think in order to take this offense to its perfect level (Balanced)....it needs a true WR2 a MUCH better Oline...and a really good offensive playcaller/mentality

 

 

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Underappreciate?  No way…if anything, they overappreciate him. He was handed the number 2 job without any competition, which is something the FO is usually emphatic about. They broke their own philosophy and it but them.

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20 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

He had a down year with the drops and it seems like some people want to throw him off the boat, but he could absolutely bounce back next year.

 

Maybe he will, maybe he won't, but you can't risk another entire season hoping someone performs up to expectations.

 

WR2 must be addressed in the draft or via FA...the draft being the preferred method.

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No. I think he's over-hated by BIlls fans and over-targeted by Josh. Whether it's more Knox, more Cook/Hines,  improved play from the slot, or adding a do-it-all WR2 the Bills need to do a much better job attacking the short to intermediate areas of the field.  A WR with an extremely limited downfield route tree shouldn't be getting nearly as many targets as he does.

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