Diggs interview with Dan Patrick on 2/10..

[WhoTom]

46 minutes ago, H2o said:

There were things being spread about him putting his hands into what Daboll was trying to do as well, that having caused a rift between the two. It wouldn't surprise me if he was meddling again. 

 

One person's "meddling" is another person's mentoring. Making sure his coordinators are doing their jobs well is part of the HC's job description. I doubt that McD was designing or calling offensive plays for Daboll, but he may very well have said, "A little more of this, a little less of that," and would have been within his rights as HC to do so.

 

And he could be doing even more of it with Dorsey, a first-year coordinator. If he isn't, then he should be.

 

 

 

[WhoTom]

19 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

The biggest change everyone saw during the season was how we went from being good in short and intermediate passing and then just always going for the long ball.  McD doesn't really seem like that kind of coach so that's why I wonder.

 

Agreed. Even now, people say his (or Frazier's, depending on whom you believe) defense is too conservative. If he's such a conservative-minded coach, then why is the offense so overly aggressive? Either he's not as conservative as people think, or he takes a hands-off approach to the offense. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

 

 

[ColoradoBills]

Diggs is frustrated just like us fans.  Lots of reasons as to why but none of them are a simple bumper sticker answer.

Josh is a great QB but he is only one guy.  Diggs will get more balls and the O will perform better is Josh has a little

more time to throw the ball before he runs around like a chicken with his head cut off.

 

It's not the only thing that needs to happen, but it would be a start.

[First Round Bust]

2 hours ago, Beast said:

You think he is taking a shot at McDermott in the media and you think that’s good leadership?

 

OK

you think Diggs and coach have not had conversations about things like that...the modern athlete mindset   esp a star player ? is going to speak his mind ...wants the ball, is always open, etc, etc...I think he is more comfortable making a statement like that cuz he already expressed his opinions during the season exit interview as well if not before....

 

btw...the majority opinion of the cerebral giants on this portal of advanced thought have the same suspicions  of the HC ie., the second-coming of Marvin Lewis...

 

[BillsFan692]

40 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Yes... incompetent coach with the highest winning percentage in franchise history that went to the playoffs in his first year after 17 years of nothing.

 

More like incompetent poster.

 

 

Isnt this quite disingenuous? Lets put on our back-in-time caps. Did the bills not have a similar to record to what we always had before McD joined the first year "we made" the playoffs??? We simply got lucky and the red rocket made a hell of a play to beat the ravens and send us in.

 

Our record wasnt improved that season over previous years with rex, it just happened to be good enough to squeak in that year.

 

For this you give mcd credit?

 

Then after that we drafted josh allen so anything after JA day cant really be credited to mcd since literally my blind grandpa could win games with JA dropping back.

[Einstein]

1 hour ago, JohnNord said:

People read way too much into player comments, as though he has written this out ahead of time. 

To me, that’s kinda the point. The fact that he was just rambling freely indicates that this is how he truly feels. 

[PrimeTime101]

39 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Yes... incompetent coach with the highest winning percentage in franchise history that went to the playoffs in his first year after 17 years of nothing.

 

More like incompetent poster.

 

 

Turk... 

who can deny that this team got away with what they were doing well? I am pretty sure most watching can tell that offensively, this team got away from what it was doing good. Now..  I totally disagree with exactly how @QB Bills put it, I personally think both replies are poisoning these forums. What ever happened to the rule of thumb, argue the topics and not make it personal?

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, BillsFan692 said:

Isnt this quite disingenuous? Lets put on our back-in-time caps. Did the bills not have a similar to record to what we always had before McD joined the first year "we made" the playoffs??? We simply got lucky and the red rocket made a hell of a play to beat the ravens and send us in.

 

Our record wasnt improved that season over previous years with rex, it just happened to be good enough to squeak in that year.

 

For this you give mcd credit?

 

Then after that we drafted josh allen so anything after JA day cant really be credited to mcd since literally my blind grandpa could win games with JA dropping back.

 

Our record was, in fact, improved over previous years with Rex - 8-8 and 7-9

 

We had achieved a 9-7 record two times previously during the playoff drought - 2004 and 2014.  So there is an element of chance that we didn't get in to the playoffs in 2014 (owing to other teams in the conference having 10-6 and 10-5-1 records), sure.  There are always elements of chance in sports.

 

But as for disingenuous - it's a fact that "your blind grandpa" hasn't managed to win enough games to see playoffs all the time with some other excellent QB under center.  Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, and Philip Rivers would be 3 examples of QB capable of winning championships, whose teams didn't win enough games to see playoffs.  The fact is, a team needs a decent defense to win consistently, and we've

 

Then it's a fact that Brian Daboll just won coach-of-the-year for taking the Giants to a 9-7-1 record.  I guess by your lights that's not an achievement?

 

Seems like you're pretty focused on not giving McDermott credit

[ProcessTruster]

4 hours ago, QB Bills said:

He sees every day what the rest of us see for 3 hours on Sundays. And unlike some of the other players on the team, he's in a place where he can subtly call out his incompetent coach. You win with a mindset like Diggs' and lose with a mindset like Clappy's. Optics be damned. 

ok, so then time to blow it up and start over with an entirely new coaching staff?  Is that what you want?   Go back to suck for 2-3 years in Josh's prime while the roster is rebuilt in the image of the new HC and new OC/DC?   Is that what you want?  

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, BillsFan692 said:

Our record wasnt improved that season over previous years with rex

Umm no… Rex hasn’t lead a team over 500 since 2010. 

Throw stones at McDermott all you wish, but I don’t ever want people thinking Rex did any good here. It’s patently false. 

[Ray Finkel]

4 hours ago, TheBeaneBandit said:

McDermott needed his a** called out imo. Mr No Evolve needs to evolve, and fast. 

McDermott has a lot of blood on his hands going back back to 13 seconds, so let’s fire the safety coach.

[3rdand12]

2 hours ago, First Round Bust said:

you think Diggs and coach have not had conversations about things like that...the modern athlete mindset   esp a star player ? is going to speak his mind ...wants the ball, is always open, etc, etc...I think he is more comfortable making a statement like that cuz he already expressed his opinions during the season exit interview as well if not before....

 

btw...the majority opinion of the cerebral giants on this portal of advanced thought have the same suspicions  of the HC ie., the second-coming of Marvin Lewis...

 

Thank you for taking notice of me !😋

[HappyDays]

50 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said:

ok, so then time to blow it up and start over with an entirely new coaching staff?  Is that what you want?   Go back to suck for 2-3 years in Josh's prime while the roster is rebuilt in the image of the new HC and new OC/DC?   Is that what you want?  

 

Nick Sirriani got to the Super Bowl his 2nd year on the job.

 

Kyle Shanahan and Zac Taylor both got there in their 3rd years.

 

It's a myth that it takes several years for a new coaching staff to get the team to championship caliber. A new coach with no franchise QB, maybe (although that's where Taylor and Shanahan were when they took over). A new coach starting off with Josh Allen and established players on both sides of the ball would have very few if any growing pains.

 

Don't be so afraid of change. If a regime after 7 years of trying doesn't even sniff a Super Bowl appearance even after several years of elite QB play, it is reasonable to give someone else a chance.

[Beerball]

6 hours ago, Einstein said:

Interesting. That comment about HC's playing a huge part in offensive scheme and Jefferson's HC being an "offensive guy" gives an inside look into how Digg's may view things here.

Dorsey should have been replaced at the end of the season.

[SCBills]

1 hour ago, ProcessTruster said:

ok, so then time to blow it up and start over with an entirely new coaching staff?  Is that what you want?   Go back to suck for 2-3 years in Josh's prime while the roster is rebuilt in the image of the new HC and new OC/DC?   Is that what you want?  

Is it reasonable to ask McDermott, this off-season, to let Poyer & Edmunds walk… perhaps try to find a trade partner for Oliver, and then utilize Day 3 picks to fill in the gaps, so we can invest heavy on Offense?  Remake the the OL and WR rooms?

 

Having a Defensive HC only has a chance to offset the inherent Offensive cohesion issues if that HC is able to mask deficiencies on the Defense so we can load up on Offense. 
 

So far we’ve apparently needed high end talent/investment all over the Defense in order to have a Defense that continually fails in the post-season.  
 

Isn’t that a fair compromise?… to ask Beane and McDermott to reallocate a ton of investment to to the Offense this off-season?

 

I think we’ve reached shake-up territory now.. the next step is major coordinator changes, then a HC change if our limitations remain. 

 

Edited February 19, 2023 by SCBills

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

Nick Sirriani got to the Super Bowl his 2nd year on the job.

 

Kyle Shanahan and Zac Taylor both got there in their 3rd years.

 

It's a myth that it takes several years for a new coaching staff to get the team to championship caliber. A new coach with no franchise QB, maybe (although that's where Taylor and Shanahan were when they took over). A new coach starting off with Josh Allen and established players on both sides of the ball would have very few if any growing pains.

 

Don't be so afraid of change. If a regime after 7 years of trying doesn't even sniff a Super Bowl appearance even after several years of elite QB play, it is reasonable to give someone else a chance.

The visceral opposition to this is that the bills were so bad at hiring upgrades for sooooo long. Donahoe, Jauron, Malarkey, Wade, Marone, Wrecks, Nix, Gaily, Whaley, Russ… everyone was a fix 

[FireChans]

5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

The visceral opposition to this is that the bills were so bad at hiring upgrades for sooooo long. Donahoe, Jauron, Malarkey, Wade, Marone, Wrecks, Nix, Gaily, Whaley, Russ… everyone was a fix 

Can we look at the Sabres? Why is there so much trust in the Pegulas hiring the right people? 
 

Right now Beane and McD look like the only positive exception in what’s been a horrible track record.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

25 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Can we look at the Sabres? Why is there so much trust in the Pegulas hiring the right people? 
 

Right now Beane and McD look like the only positive exception in what’s been a horrible track record.

Well- I’m not in a position to buy the sabers Bills or probably even the bandits… so what choice is there? 
 

it’s the least changeable thing. 

[JerseyBills]

19 hours ago, Einstein said:

Interesting. That comment about HC's playing a huge part in offensive scheme and Jefferson's HC being an "offensive guy" gives an inside look into how Digg's may view things here.

Also he mentioned the weather conditions and new stadium.  When Patrick asked him how long he'll be in Buf , Diggs said a couple of years. When he's on the books 5 more years.. 

I'm probably over thinking this but he just strikes me as a super hard working,  confident WR that wants to put the team on his back when needed. 

He was that the 1st 9 weeks. 7 TDs. 4 100 yard games.

Compared to 4 TDs . 1 100 yard game the final 7 games.

 

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Edited February 20, 2023 by JerseyBills

[Casey D]

Great interview of a great guy.  So glad we have him.

 

If you watch, there are no "shots".  He tells a human story about a player who works his ass off to win, is on a team that thinks it is their year, the team goes through hell-- all of which is described as a Disney story, with a nightmare ending.  What he could not fathom, is the season going down not with a bang but with a whimper. 

 

Why?  Those who want to blame someone will, be it a coach or Allen or whatever.  To me, I hope it is the kind of season that if it did not kill you-- and it might have killed this team as 2023 will be different--- only makes you stronger.  I can tell with Diggs he is only going to fight even harder.  Lucky to have him. Go Bills!!