Gene Frenkle Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 Just now, aristocrat said: here’s my issue. You act as though fox is the only one who does it. The left ran headline after headline of trump being illegitimate and owned by Russians for four years. Then after he’s out of office and most or all debunked they pretend like it never happened. They claimed the Russians stole the election which they knew was bs. Now play high and mighty like they never made these claims. Total bull. I don’t watch fox either but don’t pretend both sides are guilty of it Do you have internal text messages confirming this alleged fraud? I only ask because we now have that from Faux News. Did ya see?
B-Man Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: Do you have internal text messages confirming this alleged fraud? You are not acknowledging that the Trump/Russian collusion story hasn't completely fallen apart ? Well, then there is no point in debating anything with you about Fox. You are not an honest poster. . Edited February 19, 2023 by B-Man 1 1
Gene Frenkle Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 1 minute ago, B-Man said: You are not acknowledging that the Trump/Russian collusion story hasn't completely fallen apart ? Well, then there is no point in debating anything with you about Fox. You are not an honest poster. . No, I'm asking for evidence. You know, facts. Do you remember those?
aristocrat Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: Do you have internal text messages confirming this alleged fraud? I only ask because we now have that from Faux News. Did ya see? Why do I need texts? Did the Russians steal the election or no? 1
Gene Frenkle Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Why do I need texts? Did the Russians steal the election or no? Let me slow it down for you: What evidence do you have to support your accusations?
B-Man Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: No, I'm asking for evidence. You know, facts. Do you remember those? Unbelievable. In order to hide his incompetence, Gene is requiring us to "prove" that Trump didn't collude with Russia. We know that you have been here the past 2 years and have seen every major newspaper and government inquiry has acknowledged this. But thats not good enough for Juror #3 here, Useless. Just parrot "FOX BAD" all you want. No one expects any better from you. .
aristocrat Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: Let me slow it down for you: What evidence do you have to support your accusations? my accusation that the Russians didn’t steal the election?
Gene Frenkle Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: my accusation that the Russians didn’t steal the election? I seek your evidence that the Lib media is intentionally providing provably false information to it's viewers while openly discussing it interally. I'll hang up and listen.
aristocrat Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Gene Frenkle said: I seek your evidence that the Lib media is intentionally providing provably false information to it's viewers while openly discussing it interally. I'll hang up and listen. well I never claimed they had internal texts showing this. But to me it would be a lot scarier if they didn’t know what they were reporting was false. Anybody with half a brain knew it was all nonsense but that’s why cnns ratings were so high those four years and tsnked afterwards. now do you believe the Russians stole the election?
ChiGoose Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 55 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: Twitter and Facebook made it such that the Post story could not be shared. Twitter locked the Post account unless they deleted their tweets regarding the very true laptop story. Virtually every other major media outlet joined the pack with glee. Do you truly have a hard time understanding how that is censorship? The problem is that you seem the believe that independent institutions enacting their own policies in regards to a questionable story is actually a coordinated effort at suppression. That’s not censorship, that’s capitalism. 30 minutes ago, aristocrat said: here’s my issue. You act as though fox is the only one who does it. The left ran headline after headline of trump being illegitimate and owned by Russians for four years. Then after he’s out of office and most or all debunked they pretend like it never happened. They claimed the Russians stole the election which they knew was bs. Now play high and mighty like they never made these claims. Total bull. I don’t watch fox either but don’t pretend both sides are guilty of it I’m not pretending that Fox is the only bad news outlet. I think all TV news is bad and the country would be much better off if these outlets didn’t exist. I think, however, there’s a difference when the media outlet’s leadership and hosts are on the record acknowledging that they are lying to their audiences.
aristocrat Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: The problem is that you seem the believe that independent institutions enacting their own policies in regards to a questionable story is actually a coordinated effort at suppression. That’s not censorship, that’s capitalism. I’m not pretending that Fox is the only bad news outlet. I think all TV news is bad and the country would be much better off if these outlets didn’t exist. I think, however, there’s a difference when the media outlet’s leadership and hosts are on the record acknowledging that they are lying to their audiences. in the msnbc video I showed you it literally shows her lying about desantis. Either she is incredibly dumb or she is knowingly lying with that question. I don’t think she’s that dumb and based on the amount of press it’s gotten I’d make an educated guess that there is communication between her and a producer acknowledging that the question was a lie.
ChiGoose Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 1 minute ago, aristocrat said: in the msnbc video I showed you it literally shows her lying about desantis. Either she is incredibly dumb or she is knowingly lying with that question. I don’t think she’s that dumb and based on the amount of press it’s gotten I’d make an educated guess that there is communication between her and a producer acknowledging that the question was a lie. I dunno, a lot of the talking heads are actually really dumb.
aristocrat Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: I dunno, a lot of the talking heads are actually really dumb. Did you know that tucker Carlson had hunter Biden help get his son into some Ivy League school? That’s the other thing they’re all in bed with each other
ChiGoose Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 8 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Did you know that tucker Carlson had hunter Biden help get his son into some Ivy League school? That’s the other thing they’re all in bed with each other Yeah, saw that. The goal isn’t to inform, it’s to keep eyeballs on the tv for the ad breaks. If you want to know what’s really going on in the world, turn off the TV
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 50 minutes ago, ChiGoose said: The problem is that you seem the believe that independent institutions enacting their own policies in regards to a questionable story is actually a coordinated effort at suppression. That’s not censorship, that’s capitalism. censorship 1. the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security. You should consider freshening up on your understanding of censorship. The “questionable” story was actually quite true and very newsworthy. It was suppressed due to it being politically unacceptable to the vast majority of media (traditional and social) and those they make no secret of supporting. If you view that as capitalism rather than censorship you will certainly be breaking new ground in the use of the language. 1 1
ChiGoose Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, JDHillFan said: censorship 1. the suppression or prohibition of any parts of books, films, news, etc. that are considered obscene, politically unacceptable, or a threat to security. You should consider freshening up on your understanding of censorship. The “questionable” story was actually quite true and very newsworthy. It was suppressed due to it being politically unacceptable to the vast majority of media (traditional and social) and those they make no secret of supporting. If you view that as capitalism rather than censorship you will certainly be breaking new ground in the use of the language. We’re talking about a laptop held by some random guy who gave it to Rudy Giuliani, a known fabulist, who wouldn’t provide it to the outlets that wanted to vet its veracity. It absolutely stinks to high heaven as a disinfo op and it’s not surprising that outlets would be hesitant to run with the story until they could get their hands on the actual data. This whole idea that all of the media outlets, all of social media, and all of the government were in cahoots to bury the Hunter laptop story is ridiculous. Shady ass liars were promoting yet another shady ass story that looked everything like all of the other lies they were pushing. There’s plenty of reasons that even the most fair and balanced news outlets would hesitate to run with it until they fully vetted it. Turns out, this was the one time the crazies actually may have had something but when you’re the boy who cries wolf, don’t be surprised when people are reluctant to believe you when there’s actually a wolf. Edited February 19, 2023 by ChiGoose
Gene Frenkle Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 2 hours ago, aristocrat said: well I never claimed they had internal texts showing this. But to me it would be a lot scarier if they didn’t know what they were reporting was false. Anybody with half a brain knew it was all nonsense but that’s why cnns ratings were so high those four years and tsnked afterwards. now do you believe the Russians stole the election? Isn't there a thread for this? Or a dozen? This thread is about how Fox News presents internally-known lies to its viewers in order to drive a political narrative and outcome. Do you have any thoughts on this that aren't "whatabout cnn msnbc and the lamestream media - yee haw!"? 1
Biden is Mentally Fit Posted February 19, 2023 Posted February 19, 2023 1 hour ago, ChiGoose said: We’re talking about a laptop held by some random guy who gave it to Rudy Giuliani, a known fabulist, who wouldn’t provide it to the outlets that wanted to vet its veracity. It absolutely stinks to high heaven as a disinfo op and it’s not surprising that outlets would be hesitant to run with the story until they could get their hands on the actual data. This whole idea that all of the media outlets, all of social media, and all of the government were in cahoots to bury the Hunter laptop story is ridiculous. Shady ass liars were promoting yet another shady ass story that looked everything like all of the other lies they were pushing. There’s plenty of reasons that even the most fair and balanced news outlets would hesitate to run with it until they fully vetted it. Turns out, this was the one time the crazies actually may have had something but when you’re the boy who cries wolf, don’t be surprised when people are reluctant to believe you when there’s actually a wolf. Irresponsible crack-addled loser leaves laptop behind with compromising information. That’s some disinfo op. Was it the Russians pulling the strings on that one? Meanwhile the hard hitting investigative journalists at 60 Minutes were running with this as part of their “vetting” of the story: It’s a very important issue to find out whether a man’s corrupt who’s running for president, who’s accepted money from China, and Ukraine, and from Russia,” Trump responds. “Take a look at what’s going on, Leslie, and you say that shouldn’t be discussed?…I think it’s one of the biggest scandals I’ve ever seen, and you don’t cover it.” “Well because it can’t be verified,” Stahl says. “I’m telling you—” “Of course it can be verified,” Trump interjects. “Excuse me, Leslie, they found a laptop—” “It can’t be verified,” Stahl repeats. At least NPR was on the job with their “vetting”: There was no censorship (maybe Twitter suspending the account of the NY Post would qualify as censorship but lets not quibble over the 6th largest newspaper in America) and I’m sure all the non-censorship had absolutely nothing to do with loathing of Donald Trump. All we have to do to make it so is redefine the word censorship and make it mean capitalism. Right? 1
BillsFanNC Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) The Hunter laptop story squelching (read censoring)? Oh no that was just a mistake by the media according to @ChiGoose. A mistake that they all made simultaneously, in the days prior to a presidential election. And I've also got some ocean front property in Omaha that you're gonna love. Edited February 20, 2023 by BillsFanNC
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