wppete Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 8 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: The Bills organization has not drafted an elite or even great WR since 1996, picking Eric Moulds. Think about that, 27 years. Sammy was a bust. We picked a few 2nd and 3rd rounders who didn't stick. We're probably only getting 2 more years out of Diggs. Beane has to nail a great wr in this draft. Either 1st round or a "diamond in the rough" day 2. Giving Josh only Stefon is criminal. Definitely true. But you don’t just wake up and become a draft guru all of a sudden. His draft record over 5 years is disastrous. His track record suggests another disappointing draft. 1 Quote
HeHateMe Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) He needs to hire some new scouts.. He's been brutal and you could probably pick random TBD members who would have done a much better job.. Edited February 17, 2023 by HeHateMe 2 1 Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 Who’d Beane draft over this guy again? Quote
Einstein Posted February 17, 2023 Author Posted February 17, 2023 44 minutes ago, ngbills said: KC drafted a superior player in Karlaftis at the same spot this year and he is already better than our pick at the same spot last year in Rousseau. KC drafted a CB before us in the 1st and one in the 7th. Both are better than our CB taken in the first. KC drafted a RB in the 7th that is better than the one we took in the 2nd. KC drafted the better LB later in the 3rd than us. yes and I 100% believe we wanted McDuffie (who KC took) but Beane was shy on moving up. Quote
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 34 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Who’d Beane draft over this guy again? Ed Oliver DISASTER Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Ed Oliver DISASTER Nope. Cody Ford. Edited February 17, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede 1 Quote
FireChans Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Nope. Ed is a disaster because the Bills needed a superstar in that spot. Bengals drafted Burrow, Higgins, Chase, Carman in their two crappy seasons in the first and second. The Bills drafted Allen, Edmunds, Oliver, Ford in their two crappy seasons in the first and second. They hit on 3 stars. We hit on 1. That's why Beane's presser was so embarrassing lol. Edited February 17, 2023 by FireChans 1 1 Quote
ghostwriter Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 B+ because he drafted Allen. C+ as far as who he drafted outside of Allen. Quote
finn Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said: Knox isn't average. If they actually used him, could be a real weapon They had to use him to block because Beane assumed Brown would be adequate at RT and he wasn't. So two positions were impacted by Beane's misjudgment. Arguably more, since with Knox blocking instead of running routes, teams could take Diggs out of the game with impunity. A cascade effect. Quote
TheyCallMeAndy Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Einstein said: I know a lot of people see some elite qualities with him, but i'm talking about his overall play so far. As soon as Von goes out, we never saw Rousseau do anything above average again. Except some sacks and TFL. Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 58 minutes ago, wppete said: Definitely true. But you don’t just wake up and become a draft guru all of a sudden. His draft record over 5 years is disastrous. His track record suggests another disappointing draft. 47 minutes ago, HeHateMe said: He needs to hire some new scouts.. He's been brutal and you could probably pick random TBD members who would have done a much better job.. Every GM needs great scouts and a little luck. And besides Josh, we're failing on a majority of these picks since 2018. We don't have that luxury. Find better scouts. Incentivize them better based on how well their suggestions perform. I don't know what the answer is but some of these picks look like someone's drunk. 5 Quote
Einstein Posted February 17, 2023 Author Posted February 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Except some sacks and TFL. A sack in 2 of your last 6 games is what an average player would do. 1 Quote
LABILLBACKER Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Except some sacks and TFL. Rousseau's last 7 games. 3 sacks, 3 TFL. In his 2 playoff games he got 0/0. Sorry but that doesn't encourage me. Beane might have swung and missed on all 3 DE's. 2 Quote
gjv Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 This type of evaluation exercise is limited at best and perhaps worthless. I would think the selection of scouts, the creation of the Draft Board, other draftees available at the time of selection, and the influence of the owner and perhaps head coach have as much weight, if not more in grading a GM. Quote
TheFunPolice Posted February 17, 2023 Posted February 17, 2023 (edited) It's not a pick, but Beane getting a draft pick for Lee Smith, who was supposedly retired, was pure larceny. That was a great move. He basically just reached into Atlanta's pocket and stole $5. Edited February 17, 2023 by TheFunPolice Quote
McDeerInTheHeadlights Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 On a value basis, after Josh and a couple of late round picks, only desolation. Quote
BuffaloBillsGospel2014 Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 10 hours ago, Einstein said: Players in red are gone or are presumed to be gone (example: Edmunds is testing free agency and is expected to get way more than the Bills can pay). Also didn't include 2022 picks since its too early to rate them. How do you rate the rest of the draft picks? Here are my ratings: 2018 Allen - elite Edmunds Phillips Teller Mccloud T Johnson - good Proehl 2019 Oliver - average Ford Singletary Knox - average Joseph J Johnson - bad D Johnson Sweeney 2020 Epenesa - backup quality Moss Davis - average Fromm Bass - good Hodgins D Jackson - average (I'm not as down on Dane as some of you) 2021 Rousseau - average Basham - backup quality Brown - backup quality Doyle - backup Stevenson Hamlin - backup quality Wildgoose Anderson He landed a top 3 QB in the NFL, He has my vote for awhile. He landed Poyer, Hyde, Morse, McCoy in free agency and traded for Diggs. Also no way is Greg Rousseau or Dawson Knox Average, both are quality starters imo. Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, BuffaloBillsGospel2014 said: He landed a top 3 QB in the NFL, He has my vote for awhile. He landed Poyer, Hyde, Morse, McCoy in free agency and traded for Diggs. Also no way is Greg Rousseau or Dawson Knox Average, both are quality starters imo. Doug Whaley was the GM for Poyer and Hyde not Beane. Quote
StHustle Posted February 18, 2023 Posted February 18, 2023 Oliver isn’t average. You have no idea what you’re looking at. 2 Quote
Einstein Posted February 18, 2023 Author Posted February 18, 2023 1 hour ago, StHustle said: Oliver isn’t average. You have no idea what you’re looking at. I’m looking at a 3 tech that struggles to get more than 3 or 4 sacks per season and maybe 1 forced fumble. Quote
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