OT..Todd Mcshay continues to show he knows nothing about the Bills franchise

[BarleyNY]

While Gibbs would be an extremely depressing pick at 27, I do think that RB needs to be addressed in some way(s). Motor is gone unless he comes back cheap. Hines is likely a cut unless he takes a pay cut. Cook would be a decent option for one of our two top RBs if not for his terrible pass pro. The RB FA market should yield an option at very reasonable cost. Ditto day 3 of the draft. And maybe Cook can clean up his pass pro too. 

[Bangarang]

Fix the OL and roll with Cook and Hines. 

[BillsVet]

People are just realizing McShay doesn't know anything?

 

Maybe when it's realized that most draftniks want to generate clicks that it'll make sense why the RD1 RB narrative gains steam.  

[PBF81]

1 hour ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

It’s like going to a bakery and ordering the vanilla cake every time there’s no toppings no fruits no nothing on that cake just plain vanilla. 😂 

 

Let's not confuse our coaching with mock drafts.

 

 

Edited February 15, 2023 by PBF81

[Solomon Grundy]

Todd McShay, IMO, is not very good at his job. He constantly gets OWNED by Mel Kiper who's only claim to fame was his stance on Josh Allen. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

1 hour ago, Billz4ever said:

Ridiculous.  Why would we draft the same type of back we already have?

 

Bijan Robinson is the only back that would make any sense for us and that's only if he's there for us when we pick.  He's a top 5 talent in the draft.

 

I think this guy just throws darts at a board, then writes his article.

 

 

And how many of them are actually first round talent?  

 

I think we could potentially trade out of the first round into the early second, still get a good WR, and get an additional pick on top of it.

 

If Bijan Robinson is somehow still there at 27, I think we have to take him.  Maybe one of the elite OL, which there are few that would be considered first round talent.

 

I just don't understand taking a RB in the first round on this team. 

 

Sure, assuming they keep Hines, the team has no size at running back, but with only 6 draft picks, your best shot at an elite skill talent is R1, and we're taking a RB? 

 

Why not just scour the Undrafted Free Agent pool and pick a RB in that 220 pound range? 

 

 

 

 

[Billz4ever]

23 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

 

I just don't understand taking a RB in the first round on this team. 

 

Sure, assuming they keep Hines, the team has no size at running back, but with only 6 draft picks, your best shot at an elite skill talent is R1, and we're taking a RB? 

 

Why not just scour the Undrafted Free Agent pool and pick a RB in that 220 pound range? 

 

 

 

 

You're not going to find a 220 lb back who's known for his tackle-breaking ability, runs a sub-4.5, won the Doak Walker award, and is a 1st team All-American in the undrafted FA pool and there's not a ton of actual first round talent in the areas we have our biggest needs.

 

It's all going to come down to who's on the board when it gets to us.

 

Only a few WRs are actual first round talent in this draft. Same for OL.  I don't want to see the Bills reach.

 

If Robinson is somehow there, I think you have to take him.  If Robinson is gone and depending on what WRs and OL are still on the board, we may be better trading out of the first to the early second to get our guy and get an additional pick.

 

If someone like Jalin Hyatt is still there, maybe we take him or one of the few 1st round talents on the OL.

Edited February 15, 2023 by Billz4ever

[Billz4ever]

34 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

Todd McShay, IMO, is not very good at his job. He constantly gets OWNED by Mel Kiper who's only claim to fame was his stance on Josh Allen. 

McShay's logic is mind-boggling bad.  He explains what Gibbs is good at but doesn't explain why that's somehow a great fit for the Bills considering Gibbs is a back so similar to what we already have.  He is faster, but still the same type of back.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Imagine using a 1st and 2nd round pick on a RB in back to back drafts.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

19 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

You're not going to find a 220 lb back who's known for his tackle-breaking ability, runs a sub-4.5, won the Doak Walker award, and is a 1st team All-American in the undrafted FA pool and there's not a ton of actual first round talent in the areas we have our biggest needs.

 

It's all going to come down to who's on the board when it gets to us.

 

Only a few WRs are actual first round talent in this draft. Same for OL.  I don't want to see the Bills reach.

 

If Robinson is somehow there, I think you have to take him.  If Robinson is gone and depending on what WRs and OL are still on the board, we may be better trading out of the first to the early second to get our guy and get an additional pick.

 

If someone like Jalin Hyatt is still there, maybe we take him or one of the few 1st round talents on the OL.

Of course you're not.

 

But starting RB on the Buffalo Bills is the 10th most important position on the starting offense and it renders the Cook pick useless. 

 

 

[Billz4ever]

1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Of course you're not.

 

But starting RB on the Buffalo Bills is the 10th most important position on the starting offense and it renders the Cook pick useless. 

 

 

No it doesn't because Cook was brought here to be the pass catching RB Beane thought he was getting with McKissic that fell through.  A back like Robinson is also much better suited for short yardage than backs like Cook. Our only real short yardage options right now are to throw or QB sneak.

[Billz4ever]

26 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Imagine using a 1st and 2nd round pick on a RB in back to back drafts.

If you're looking at BPA and true first round talent, if Robinson is there at 27, along with 2nd round WR and OL talent, Robinson has to be your guy in the first.

 

We'll probably end up with a Safety anyway knowing this FO.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

5 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

If you're looking at BPA and true first round talent, if Robinson is there at 27, along with 2nd round WR and OL talent, Robinson has to be your guy in the first.

 

We'll probably end up with a Safety anyway knowing this FO.

BPA is a myth man. It always has been. 

[balln]

37 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Imagine using a 1st and 2nd round pick on a RB in back to back drafts.

And back to back 3rd rounds

[Straight Hucklebuck]

37 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

No it doesn't because Cook was brought here to be the pass catching RB Beane thought he was getting with McKissic that fell through.  A back like Robinson is also much better suited for short yardage than backs like Cook. Our only real short yardage options right now are to throw or QB sneak.

You draft Robinson, and he should touch the ball 20 times a game. 

 

Cook is billed as this pass catching back, but he wasn't used that way last year. 

 

After the Dolphins game in Week 3, he was sporadic in his usage on designed pass plays, and you never got anything exotic out of him coming out of the slot, or jet sweeps, or flare/bubble screens. 

 

It makes much more sense to utilize the guy you drafted in the 2nd Round, and showed he was a productive RB, as your primary, then to draft another RB, and ask Cook to do something else. 

 

The only negative on Cook is size, and can he run with power in the Playoffs, or do you need more muscle there. 

[Billz4ever]

32 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

You draft Robinson, and he should touch the ball 20 times a game. 

 

Cook is billed as this pass catching back, but he wasn't used that way last year. 

 

After the Dolphins game in Week 3, he was sporadic in his usage on designed pass plays, and you never got anything exotic out of him coming out of the slot, or jet sweeps, or flare/bubble screens. 

 

It makes much more sense to utilize the guy you drafted in the 2nd Round, and showed he was a productive RB, as your primary, then to draft another RB, and ask Cook to do something else. 

 

The only negative on Cook is size, and can he run with power in the Playoffs, or do you need more muscle there. 

And neither was Hines.  Beane specifically drafted a pass catching back and then traded for another and neither were used in that capacity.  That's a clear disconnect between Beane and Dorsey. 

 

There was little to no incorporation of our backs into the passing game whatsoever this past season outside of dump offs on a checkdown.  That needs to change and that's on Dorsey.

Edited February 15, 2023 by Billz4ever

[Special K]

The Bills didn't draft Breece Hall last in the First Round last year, so what makes him think they will draft Gibbs in the First this year??  Hall is better than  Gibbs, IMO.

[Kwai San]

6 hours ago, SCBills said:

I fear for my television if this pick happens.

 

I do not want a RB at 27, but would understand.. and probably talk myself into, Bijan Robinson - He's a freak. 

 

This would be like Terrell Bernard.. just zero rationale and an all around ridiculous pick.. only 3x worse given RD1 vs RD3. 

I too feel the same way.  Probably best my TV is off during the Bills pick!!!

[buffalostu2]

I don't think we took Cook in the 2nd to have a small roll.   Two 3rd round RBs a few years back, a 2nd last year, and a first this year is what he is predicting?  That just seems crazy unless the kid from Texas is still on the board who is seen as elite.   

 

Learn from the Rams and Cheifs and upgrade the line, skip the 1st round RBs.

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

Throwing darts at the wall and hoping one sticks.

If he is right…”wow…what a genius!”

..and if he’s wrong, and he will be, no one will remember……