Back2Buff Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 13 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. That's how the secondary market works in every single NFL city. You should look into it. I know at least 10 people that doubled their money as a whole this season from re-selling their tickets. Not sure what your response has anything to do with not raising the ticket prices here. The Bills are in the bottom half of league in gate revenue. The re-sell market is telling the Bills that people are willing to pay more for tickets to their game. Therefore, they are raising ticket prices. This isn't rocket science. Not sure why you have such a condescending attitude. The Bills would love to have less season tickets and be able to sell more single game tickets. Clearly the the out of towners will pay a lot more than a season ticket holder is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 11 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: That’s correct. That’s why they negotiated an agreement that seems to have been palatable to just about everyone but you. 😉 yes. Just me, plenty of posters here and and 65% of polled Western NY (13 counties) voters, 68% of Upstate voters and 55% of downstate voters--all of whome were against this "negotiated" agreement. Billionaire: "before we get started, i would like to make clear that, if I have to lay out a dollar of my own money for this stadium, I'm moving the team". NYS: "no problem". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spartan19 Posted February 16, 2023 Author Share Posted February 16, 2023 12 hours ago, klos63 said: Nothing to do with salaries and bonuses going up? TV revenue alone pays each team over $320 million per year, more than enough to cover salaries of everyone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, spartan19 said: TV revenue alone pays each team over $320 million per year, more than enough to cover salaries of everyone. Besides the real money is in the resale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 are some of you really going to pay $6K-15K for a PSL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 11 hours ago, Mc1320 said: The estimated PSL price for my two seats in Section 137 in the survey was $4,400. If that holds, the effective price for the first season in the new stadium with the price increases today would be in the ballpark of $11, 400 - doubt I’m paying that. i believe they will have payment plans from 1-5 years, with interest of course Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 27 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: I know at least 10 people that doubled their money as a whole this season from re-selling their tickets. Not sure what your response has anything to do with raising the ticket prices here. The Bills are in the bottom half of league in gate revenue. The re-sell market is telling the Bills that people are willing to pay more for tickets to their game. Therefore, they are raising ticket prices. This isn't rocket science. Not sure why you have such a condescending attitude. The Bills would love to have less season tickets and be able to sell more single game tickets. Clearly the the out of towners will pay a lot more than a season ticket holder is. Not sure? Buying season tickets to sell is a speculative move. Depending on how the team is doing, you might make money or you may lose money--especially in December/January. If the Bills raised season tickets to the price point the resale was getting in a particular year, many more fans would likely not buy season tickets--especially those who' intent is to sell them. Also, there is nothing preventing the Bills form limiting the number of season tickets they sell. Simple. Also, 16 teams are in the bottom half of the League in revenue by the way....good point! This isn't rocket science, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 13 minutes ago, nucci said: are some of you really going to pay $6K-15K for a PSL? No 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 12 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said: i believe they will have payment plans from 1-5 years, with interest of course When MetLife opened the Jets gave fans the option to pay the PSL fee in one shot, or over 5, 10, 15 years with interest of course. The Bills will work with the fans on this. They have to. Who really wants to pay or can afford to pay the PSL fee in one shot. They know a certain number of fans will be priced out. That is why the new stadium will hold around 60,000. Which is probably a good capacity for the Buffalo market at those prices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gregg said: When MetLife opened the Jets gave fans the option to pay the PSL fee in one shot, or over 5, 10, 15 years with interest of course. The Bills will work with the fans on this. They have to. Who really wants to pay or can afford to pay the PSL fee in one shot. They know a certain number of fans will be priced out. That is why the new stadium will hold around 60,000. Which is probably a good capacity for the Buffalo market at those prices. a 15 year loan for football tickets.....I'm older so I'm glad I had my fun going to games starting in late '60s. I wouldn't pay this for a football game 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 48 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: yes. Just me, plenty of posters here and and 65% of polled Western NY (13 counties) voters, 68% of Upstate voters and 55% of downstate voters--all of whome were against this "negotiated" agreement. Billionaire: "before we get started, i would like to make clear that, if I have to lay out a dollar of my own money for this stadium, I'm moving the team". NYS: "no problem". Solution: Don’t go the games, and don’t support the team. Other than that I don’t know what you’re looking for here. Simple Math: If the billionaire pays for the entire stadium, then those few in attendance are going to have pay WAY more to sit in it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Gregg said: When MetLife opened the Jets gave fans the option to pay the PSL fee in one shot, or over 5, 10, 15 years with interest of course. The Bills will work with the fans on this. They have to. Who really wants to pay or can afford to pay the PSL fee in one shot. They know a certain number of fans will be priced out. That is why the new stadium will hold around 60,000. Which is probably a good capacity for the Buffalo market at those prices. My thought yesterday as I listened to Ron Raccuia on GR was these guys are either high or know something i don't. So many of current STH, including me, saying i really am going to think long and hard about renewing in the new stadium. Now i will say the vast majority of folks i talk to are out of town like me, which i think factors in to it. If i do reup, will be so my kids have the tickets when i kick, and then they can choose to keep them or no. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Just now, nucci said: a 15 year loan for football tickets.....I'm older so I'm glad I had my fun going to games starting in late '60s. I wouldn't pay this for a football game Some of the PSL fees at MetLife in the lower level start at $2,500 per seat and can go as high as $25,000 per seat. But the Jets and Giants have the NYC market to draw from. Corporations or the extremely wealthy can afford to pay that but the average person can't. Some of these prices are crazy for a PSL fee. Add in the fact that the regular cost for season tickets has also gone up. They have to spread out the payments over 5,10,15 years otherwise most people are priced out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: Not sure? Buying season tickets to sell is a speculative move. Depending on how the team is doing, you might make money or you may lose money--especially in December/January. If the Bills raised season tickets to the price point the resale was getting in a particular year, many more fans would likely not buy season tickets--especially those who' intent is to sell them. Also, there is nothing preventing the Bills form limiting the number of season tickets they sell. Simple. Also, 16 teams are in the bottom half of the League in revenue by the way....good point! This isn't rocket science, no. I mean there aren't limitless seats so there is something preventing them from the number of season tickets they sell. Looks like it is rocket science to some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 2 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Solution: Don’t go the games, and don’t support the team. Other than that I don’t know what you’re looking for here. Simple Math: If the billionaire pays for the entire stadium, then those few in attendance are going to have pay WAY more to sit in it. Poor billionaire 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 Had to laugh when listening to Scott Farell. He stated the 12% rate increase was a lot for a team that doesn't win in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 3 hours ago, nucci said: are some of you really going to pay $6K-15K for a PSL? Probably 🤦🏻♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBob806 Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 (edited) 19 hours ago, Mc1320 said: Just wait until the Bills publish the pricing for the PSLs for the new stadium - that will be fun. Total extortion. NFL is so greedy, takes advantage of the fan bases. Ticket money & PSL money are just gravy after the TV deals. Ticket Revenue Edited February 16, 2023 by DrBob806 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 On 2/15/2023 at 8:33 AM, PromoTheRobot said: The Bills have done this before during the ill-fated Toronto series. In years where there was one-fewer home game, they raised the per-ticket price, but what you paid for the package stayed the same from the previous year. Then the following year you package price would go up but the per-ticket price stayed the same. wait til the new stadium pricing kicks in.....less seats, more revenue = significant price increase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 16, 2023 Share Posted February 16, 2023 1 hour ago, papazoid said: wait til the new stadium pricing kicks in.....less seats, more revenue = significant price increase You can count on it. Especially when tickets on the resale market go for hundreds sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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