newcam2012 Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 There are so good free agents the Bills should consider to upgrade the Wrs. Chark Lazzard Campbell Meyers I like Chark and Campell for the price. Lazzard and Meyers might be too pricey. I do think Meyers would be very good with Allen throwing hom the ball. Quote
Dr.Sack Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 I’m all for using 2024s 1 and other capital (Oliver), to trade up to be in position to nab Johnson. Quote
Richard Noggin Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 14 hours ago, Roundybout said: There is a lot of talk about drafting a WR2 to slot between Diggs at WR1 and Davis at WR3. This would be accomplished by taking a WR in the later rounds while we focus on offensive line in round 1 (which is a good idea too). I think we have the right idea, but wrong goal. We don't need a WR2, we need to draft a new bonafide WR1 in the first or second round. Diggs is pushing 30. It's time to start thinking about a contingency plan for when he retires. A new WR1 would allow Diggs to effectively be "WR1b" and allow him to tutor the new rookie. It would give Josh two stud weapons and open the door for Davis to wreak havoc downfield where he's shined, and for Shakir to work on a slot role. Get me Rashee Rice or Quentin Johnson, who I think is going to be an absolute star. Hell, Kayshon Boutte is a star already at LSU. Get him starting right away and watch as it's like Justin Jefferson and Adam Thielen, Tyreek Hill and Jaylen Waddle, or Davante Adams and Jordy Nelson. We would make sure that the cupboard is stocked for Josh. Don't think small with someone to pair with Diggs. Think of someone who can contribute NOW and succeed Diggs. Guessing I'm not at all the first to point out that the first round this year doesn't line up favorably for picking a WR at 27. So that elite prospect would require some dealing. 1 Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 34 minutes ago, wppete said: We need OL forget WR. Need both my man. 6 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: I’m all for using 2024s 1 and other capital (Oliver), to trade up to be in position to nab Johnson. He's overrated. Way too stiff. 2 Quote
Big Blitz Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 If only our oline wasn’t neglected the last 3 years it can be a consideration. Draft one but don’t force it if a starting IOL is there. 1 Quote
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 13 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: My hope is 3 OL & 1 WR in the first 4 rounds. What order doesn't really matter as long as we get great value. And yes very soon we're going to have to target a 1st rounder to transition into Stefon's spot. I would like to see WR in the 1st, if there is someone worth taking in our slot. Then at least the next 2 picks for OL, preferably a RG & RT. Moving Bates back to LG or finding a FA who can replace him and have Bates our #1 reserve. Quote
Richard Noggin Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 Here's a cool top-10 WR prospect workup that frankly makes it seem like there could be potential difference makers available on late Day 1 or early Day 2 (Wilson out of Stanford is favorably comped with Davante Adams, for example, and given a 2nd round grade, along with an interesting mix of smaller-ish guys with some speed): This would suggest some boom-or-bust (overdrafted) prospects available late in Rd 1, with some possible value in early Rd 2. Some team will snag a stud WR in that 25-35 range, and some team will pick a guy who doesn't progress. Who the heck will be the Bills WR Coach? That will have an impact on selection and especially on development. Quote
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 16 hours ago, GunnerBill said: He is higher floor than the guys I have him ahead of. I am not sure his ceiling is as high but in the right scheme Addison is a pretty safe bet. Austin is no more than a gimmick guy IMO. We’ll see if Austin is just a gimmick guy he was injured this whole season. This kid can run a routes and is excellent after the catch and his speed $ quickness shows on film. 1 Quote
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 8 hours ago, Richard Noggin said: Here's a cool top-10 WR prospect workup that frankly makes it seem like there could be potential difference makers available on late Day 1 or early Day 2 (Wilson out of Stanford is favorably comped with Davante Adams, for example, and given a 2nd round grade, along with an interesting mix of smaller-ish guys with some speed): This would suggest some boom-or-bust (overdrafted) prospects available late in Rd 1, with some possible value in early Rd 2. Some team will snag a stud WR in that 25-35 range, and some team will pick a guy who doesn't progress. Who the heck will be the Bills WR Coach? That will have an impact on selection and especially on development. Enough red flags to build a courthouse! Johnston I’d look as at #27 but everyone else in 3rd rd. Quote
NastyNateSoldiers Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 18 hours ago, GunnerBill said: The worst WR draft since 2016 IMO. I'd take Addison if he made it to the Bills. I don't think he is great, or a conventional #1 but he can do a bit of everything. Not sure I'd be mad on any of the others. If you put last year's class and this year's class together, Addison is WR5, Johnson is WR7, nobody else from this year currently has a grade that would get him into my top 10. Would be 1. Olave; 2. Williams; 3. Burks; 4. Wilson; 5. Addison; 6. London; 7. Johnson; 8. Watson; 9. Dotson; 10. Pickens. I wonder where Khalil Shakir would be ranked in this draft for me it’s #4 behind Johnston, Addison & Flowers . Shakir and JSN seem like the same type of player . I would think about Johnston at #27 but Addison and Flowers would have to be at our Pk in the 2nd rd. Those guys are too small to be first rd pks. Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, NastyNateSoldiers said: I wonder where Khalil Shakir would be ranked in this draft for me it’s #4 behind Johnston, Addison & Flowers . Shakir and JSN seem like the same type of player . I would think about Johnston at #27 but Addison and Flowers would have to be at our Pk in the 2nd rd. Those guys are too small to be first rd pks. I had Shakir as a 3rd round grade I think there are probably 5 or 6 guys in this draft worthy of a 1st or 2nd. Shakir wasn't close to the polished route runner JSN is coming out. Quote
pennstate10 Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 23 hours ago, machine gun kelly said: AJ, I get one a month. Ok I’ve hit my limit for February. My concern is there a top flight WR in the draft. I hope so as we can’t afford a FA. JSN from OSU is certainly a #1 WR. He’s a lot like Diggs. Elite route runner and ball skills. Widely regarded as better than Garret Wilson when both were at OSU. But I don’t think he will be available at 27. The only RB I’d take at 27 is the guy from Texas. Otherwise I’d go best available WR or IOL. I think Spencer Brown has shown enough to give him another year. Quote
BUFFALOTONE Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 Take a look at KC. They have a bunch of 2s and 3s, we need a better OL and play calling. Quote
buffaloaggie Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 The biggest frustration about the Bills draft process for me is that Beane and co. fall in love with a player, and trade assets likely when they don't have to, in order to move up. Obviously, with Josh Allen, we needed to move. Other than that, Beane has had very little success when moving in the 1st or 2nd round. Edmunds, Elam (too early?), Cody Ford and Zay Jones (I know, Beane was hired after the draft that we got Jones, McD making that call) have not panned out, or the Bills were not patient (Jones). Edmunds has been OK, but for a 1st round pick, he has not been up to that level. I'm sure someone has graded Beane's draft picks. If not, there's a new discussion topic for you. Beane really needs to treat potential picks as "nice to have", rather than "gotta have", no matter what they give up to get him. The Bills are paying the price for giving up draft assets, as well as swinging and missing on top picks. You look at re-drafting articles, and rarely are the Bills picks included as the top re-draft choices. We have gaping holes at Safety and Linebacker, as well as Offensive Line. It does zero good to draft a WR if Allen doesn't have time to throw the ball to his targets, let alone the inability to run, making this a one-dimensional Offense. No WR in the first few rounds. Maybe a guy like Charlie Jones from Purdue in a later round. 1 Quote
warrior9 Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 On 2/14/2023 at 9:00 AM, Roundybout said: Ehhh I think he's got way more burst than White was. White was just a big dude with speed; Johnson has way more finesse. Plus, White was a one-year-wonder. Johnson doesnt have any kind of finesse.. he's incredibly stiff. Watch a full game of his. White was a one year wonder? Johnston has 600 receiving yards last year. He had 6 TDs in both years. In a spread offense in a conference that plays ZERO defense. He's far from a stud. 1 1 Quote
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 I will be furious if they draft any other position but O-Line w/ their top pick unless some generationally talented WR or TE falls to 27. Quote
Straight Hucklebuck Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 12 hours ago, newcam2012 said: There are so good free agents the Bills should consider to upgrade the Wrs. Chark Lazzard Campbell Meyers I like Chark and Campell for the price. Lazzard and Meyers might be too pricey. I do think Meyers would be very good with Allen throwing hom the ball. Chark is the best option on that list because he is the best size/speed player. If the Bills sign him, then I think Tremaine Edmunds needs to go. Campbell? If you can get him for the Spotrac $2M - $3M, and release McKenzie. The Bills could ditch McKenzie this year for $2.6M in cap savings, he's become useless, because sure every once in awhile he gets a jet sweep call, but that's <10 times a year. Sportrac has Lazzard up around $12M a year. Quote
GunnerBill Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: Chark is the best option on that list because he is the best size/speed player. If the Bills sign him, then I think Tremaine Edmunds needs to go. Campbell? If you can get him for the Spotrac $2M - $3M, and release McKenzie. The Bills could ditch McKenzie this year for $2.6M in cap savings, he's become useless, because sure every once in awhile he gets a jet sweep call, but that's <10 times a year. Sportrac has Lazzard up around $12M a year. I wanted Chark last year. His ceiling is still higher than most FAs and he has the skillset we are missing. Quote
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 15, 2023 Posted February 15, 2023 2 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said: I will be furious if they draft any other position but O-Line w/ their top pick unless some generationally talented WR or TE falls to 27. There are actually two TE that potentially fall into that category. WR......there could be someone who maybe isn't generational but still high impact. 1 Quote
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