Why is Eric Bieniemy available as an OC?

[Zerovoltz]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

If you poorly communicate in any position, you're going to have a hard time regardless of race.

I agree 100 percent.  Taking race out of it...If you are selling yourself with a resume that lacks certain check boxes....you gotta communicate well (to the audience at hand)  in that regard, EB needs the resume to do more of the communicating, thus he needs to move on.  Washington would make alot of sense.  Defensive HC, team about to be sold.  Gets a year to prove it...probably has alot of lattitude because whole staff is up in the air once team is sold...he makes that offense go, he suddenly has a GREAT resume.

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

It's pretty well known Bienemy isn't well liked by players, doesn't interview well and Reid runs the offense.  

 

Reid said in the superbowl celebration that Bieniemy calls the plays

[Zerovoltz]

 

Now, if EB brings this stuff with him....damn.  Everyone wonders why KC gets dudes open.  Andy Ried is brilliant and has players that can execute this stuff.

 

I know you guys don't watch many Chiefs games, but we simply do NOT have a jump ball WR, or a contested catch guy.  KC doesn't throw stuff like you saw Philly throw to AJ Brown where you put it up and he goes and wins that ball.  Kelce...great as he is...is NOT Dallas Goddart.  They will throw high point passes to him that he goes up and wins.  KC doens't have those players....they have speed and athleticism and they sheme scheme scheme.

[GunnerBill]

9 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

Reid said in the superbowl celebration that Bieniemy calls the plays

 

No he didn't. He said Bieniemy was tremendous "putting things together." He is the guy looking at the ipad in real time and saying "Andy they are doing this, or look I think we can exploit that, or go after this guy with a double move he is biting." That is what Reid means when he says "putting things together." Reid calls the plays. m

[TheFunPolice]

All the players talk about coach Reid and his crazy offense... oh yeah and Eric too... It's usually phrases just like that, if Bieniemy is mentioned at all.

 

Of course, Reid being the good guy he is will try to give more credit than is due, and he legitimately wants to see EB succeed.  But everyone knows it's Andy Reid's offense, the same way it's Belichick's defense. 

 

It's probably best for EB's career advancement to go somewhere else and lead a successful offense with a defensive HC. 

Edited February 14, 2023 by TheFunPolice

[Saxum]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Even if he doesn't interview well?  Like he ***** the bed he should still get it?  Lesean McCoy is very public about how much Bienemy was hated.  I'm sure there is a lot of truth to that because it's also a common rumor.  But it doesn't matter anything, he should just get hired?

 

 

If you have @Chicken Boo for brains yes.

[TheBrownBear]

He has multiple offenses on his record (some mildly violent), including one documented one against a woman, a DUI, lots of other vehicular citations, followed by failures to adhere to the stipulations in his plea agreements, reportedly isn't well liked by his players, and to top it off he's rumored to be a poor interviewee?  Add it all up and owners/GMs don't see him as someone you want leading a franchise.  Some people just aren't cut out to be leaders at the highest levels.

 

As for Hackett, yes, he ended up being a terrible nepotistic hire, but he did run a successful offense in Green Bay, Rodgers won 2 MVPs while he was calling plays, he had a clean record, and he was considered a young, "high energy" type who was well liked by players.  Not too far off from a track record of a guy like Daboll, so it's not too surprising to anyone (outside of Bills fans) that he got the Denver job.

 

Having said all that, could race be playing a factor in why owners haven't been willing to look beyond Bienemy's past criminality?  Possibly, yes.  Unconscious bias does exist.  No denying that.  A good question to ask is whether owners have hired white head coaches in the last ten years with similarly checkered pasts?

[Chicken Boo]

18 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

If you have @Chicken Boo for brains yes.

 

Did that sound clever to you before you typed it?

[Gregg]

Speaking of coaches getting hired. The Colts hired the Eagles OC as their new head coach.

 

Adam Schefter on Twitter: "Colts announced they officially hired former Eagles’ OC Shane Steichen as their head coach. https://t.co/DFRbcQxL71" / Twitter

[Royale with Cheese]

2 hours ago, Chicken Boo said:

 

You're totally dismissing that Lovie was hired in-house.  Tampa didn't want to start over.  Like I said, continuity.  

 

Is Bieniemy taking over for Reid?  It's apples and oranges.  

 

*I didn't read a word of Jason Whitlock's opinion and I won't.  

 

Continuity is honestly a really stupid answer.  They were 4-13 and 4-12 the two seasons prior.  Why would they want that continuity?

Not to mention them hiring David Culley the year before, who was black and wasn't an in house hire.  Are you forgetting that?

 

And if you bring race into it, you're saying they weren't hired based on the color of their skin so it doesn't matter if they were in house or not lol.  

[The Frankish Reich]

22 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:

https://www.sportscasting.com/chiefs-oc-eric-bieniemys-troubling-rap-sheet-includes-a-disturbing-assault-charge-against-a-woman/

There’s that. And the feeling that this is all Andy’s show and Eric is a clipboard carrier. Not gonna lie, there’s maybe a tiny bit of racism there too. And weight-ism. Daboll’s a fat guy (and of course Andy too) but the NFL is moving toward super fit guys. 
In related news: Sean Payton is said to be considering Rex Ryan for his DC. Fat guy (other than long tenured successful fat guy) = loser franchise. 

[ExiledInIllinois]

Seems the Chefs are stealing our plays!

 

https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/chiefs-coach-super-bowl-stolen-play/

 

 

[Livinginthepast]

Eric "sleeping with" Bienemy!!

 

And yes I would take him in a second over "vanilla" Dorsey.

[C.Biscuit97]

Couple of things:

 

1 - the nfl coaching hiring is A joke. It’s just hire your buddy or have your daddy/ family member get you in. There are guys who are grinding away in college who deserve their first shot rather than Nate Hackett, who has been more often than not, completely terrible. But his daddy was a coach. Same with Pat Schmur, one of the worst coaches ever, who has gotten two head coaching job. There is a major problem. Andy Reid’s kids were literally crack heads and one got a nfl job. 
 

2 - Matt Nagy 

 

3 - Mike Vrabel had an assault and theft on his record. 
 

4 - do I think the nfl is racist? Not totally but coaching is such a subjective thing to measure unless you get the opportunity. Several black coaches this year led top 5 units. How many got jobs? How many franchises have never a black permanent head coach?

 

bottom line is winning. Problem is the same losers get the jobs because of who they are friends with. It’s a problem and good people, of all races, are getting passed by crappy Todd Haley (college golfer whose dad helped run the Steelers). 

51 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

There’s that. And the feeling that this is all Andy’s show and Eric is a clipboard carrier. Not gonna lie, there’s maybe a tiny bit of racism there too. And weight-ism. Daboll’s a fat guy (and of course Andy too) but the NFL is moving toward super fit guys. 
In related news: Sean Payton is said to be considering Rex Ryan for his DC. Fat guy (other than long tenured successful fat guy) = loser franchise. 

Rex Ryan is another example of the daddy boys network. Dude absolutely sucked here, was out of the league of 5 years, and gets another shot? Why? Why doesn’t a new guy get a chance to fail?

[The Frankish Reich]

46 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

Couple of things:

 

1 - the nfl coaching hiring is A joke. It’s just hire your buddy or have your daddy/ family member get you in. There are guys who are grinding away in college who deserve their first shot rather than Nate Hackett, who has been more often than not, completely terrible. But his daddy was a coach. Same with Pat Schmur, one of the worst coaches ever, who has gotten two head coaching job. There is a major problem. Andy Reid’s kids were literally crack heads and one got a nfl job. 
 

2 - Matt Nagy 

 

3 - Mike Vrabel had an assault and theft on his record. 
 

4 - do I think the nfl is racist? Not totally but coaching is such a subjective thing to measure unless you get the opportunity. Several black coaches this year led top 5 units. How many got jobs? How many franchises have never a black permanent head coach?

 

bottom line is winning. Problem is the same losers get the jobs because of who they are friends with. It’s a problem and good people, of all races, are getting passed by crappy Todd Haley (college golfer whose dad helped run the Steelers). 

Rex Ryan is another example of the daddy boys network. Dude absolutely sucked here, was out of the league of 5 years, and gets another shot? Why? Why doesn’t a new guy get a chance to fail?

Specifically re: Rex. I pray that he never gets another NFL job. He was a joke in Buffalo, clearly just cashing the checks and doing the minimum by his second year. Sean Payton likes those “blitz from all directions and hit ‘em hard” defenses, and he doesn’t dare hire Gregg Williams again, so here we go. The Rex and Rob show is landing in that mile high air. They’ll both need oxygen. 

[DrDawkinstein]

14 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Specifically re: Rex. I pray that he never gets another NFL job. He was a joke in Buffalo, clearly just cashing the checks and doing the minimum by his second year. Sean Payton likes those “blitz from all directions and hit ‘em hard” defenses, and he doesn’t dare hire Gregg Williams again, so here we go. The Rex and Rob show is landing in that mile high air. They’ll both need oxygen. 

 

I'd be just as surprised if Rex chose to leave his cushy ESPN gig for the grind of Assistant Coaching again. I'm assuming the interview/meeting with Payton was to help get Payton on track of what he is looking for in a DC.

[Captain Hindsight]

35 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

I'd be just as surprised if Rex chose to leave his cushy ESPN gig for the grind of Assistant Coaching again. I'm assuming the interview/meeting with Payton was to help get Payton on track of what he is looking for in a DC.

Rex wants to coach again. He has said that many times and wanted to interview for Washington's job a few years ago.

 

Some guys are just born to coach. Rex was a disaster here, but as a DC with a strong HC like SP, I could see that working 

[Chicken Boo]

4 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Continuity is honestly a really stupid answer.  They were 4-13 and 4-12 the two seasons prior.  Why would they want that continuity?

Not to mention them hiring David Culley the year before, who was black and wasn't an in house hire.  Are you forgetting that?

 

And if you bring race into it, you're saying they weren't hired based on the color of their skin so it doesn't matter if they were in house or not lol.  

 

Actually I was mistaken.  I thought that Lovie was the defensive coordinator for Tampa leading up to his hire.  I thought he was promoted.  I was wrong.

 

Why are we talking about Lovie Smith anyway?  

[Manther]

On 2/13/2023 at 3:02 PM, ngbills said:

Maybe thinks he needs to prove himself without Reid to get a HC job. 

I think so in order to be a HC.

[ArtVandalay]

He's a garbage human with an awful track record and the only reason he for an NFL job is because Andy Reid loves and breeds garbage humans. 

 

Bienemy: arrested multiple times, grabbed a female parking attendent by the neck, covered up systemic sexual assault by football players in college,  lured teenage high school recruits with drugs and sex. 

 

Dude is human filth.