reddogblitz Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 7 hours ago, Ga boy said: I think I see your point, but haven’t flags been picked up on the grounds of being uncatchable??? For pass interference, yes. But not holding. You can even have holding if the football was not thrown to the player being held. 1 Quote
CircleTheWagons99 Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 8 hours ago, nucci said: Eagles player admitted to holding. If that was a Bills receiver and it wasn't called, this place would have gone nuts. If it was still ruined for you then you probably should stop watching If it was a Bills player it would not have been called. No if about it. Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 In a game we think is rigged already we’re spending the day saying an obvious penalty shouldn’t be called because it would change the outcome of the game. This world is amazing. 😂 2 Quote
Nextmanup Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: In a game we think is rigged already we’re spending the day saying an obvious penalty shouldn’t be called because it would change the outcome of the game. This world is amazing. 😂 Maybe it was rigged in favor of KC. That's the beauty of paying off the ref; he has enormous power to alter the outcome of a game, especially if it's close. Calling a defensive hold can be done on any passing play, and if it's the right time, it will give the offense a free set of downs. That's if you want to favor the offensive team. Also, you can call an offensive holding call on any play, and that often kills drives. The officials have enormous power to alter games with just those 2 penalties. Quote
Artem Lipatov Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 Huge disappointment. I'm not Eagles fan and not Chiefs hater. But referee spoiled the game. He stole the show. Super Bowl. 35-35, 2 minutes left. I felt what a great game! I expected dramatic end. And this flag turned SB to BS. Just gifted the title to Mahomes. NFL are making superstar of him. Superstar needs more titles for heritage. In semifinal Bengals coach got mad when refs gave Mahomes to repeat 3rd down instead of punt, Mahomes was sacked, but refs again gave flag for DB holding and 1st down. it was 4th qtr score 20-20. Brick-By-Brick, the NFL Losing Me As A Fan too. Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Maybe it was rigged in favor of KC. That's the beauty of paying off the ref; he has enormous power to alter the outcome of a game, especially if it's close. Calling a defensive hold can be done on any passing play, and if it's the right time, it will give the offense a free set of downs. That's if you want to favor the offensive team. Also, you can call an offensive holding call on any play, and that often kills drives. The officials have enormous power to alter games with just those 2 penalties. Nice of Bradberry to follow the script then. Edited February 13, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote
Chicken Boo Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 8 hours ago, nucci said: Eagles player admitted to holding. If that was a Bills receiver and it wasn't called, this place would have gone nuts. If it was still ruined for you then you probably should stop watching Quoted for absolute truth. Quote
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 Finally found a smart man on Twitter that saw it like I saw it. Bradberry was toast and grabbing JuJu kept him from going the complete other direction. Quote
cgg716 Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 3 hours ago, Malazan said: I think you're overlooking the real problem. It's not whether that 1 call decided the game.. it's that every conversation around any game often ends up more about egregious calls or non-calls. Why did several much more obvious penalties go uncalled and then this one get called? That is the particular problem the NFL has with it's officiating. If a penalty *could* be called on every play then there's a massive problem with the rulebook and the rules are so complex that they can't be enforced appropriately and consistently by the officials then you need to make changes. People will always complain though on either side of the result, so the perception you make reinforces itself. If that's not called, and PHI puts together a drive, it's the same song 1 Quote
Ga boy Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: For pass interference, yes. But not holding. You can even have holding if the football was not thrown to the player being held. Kinda crazy Quote
Buffalo Junction Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 9 hours ago, streetkings01 said: The ball wasn’t in the air. The WR ran a whip route(terrible one at that), the DB was holding before he even dropped his hips to explode back they other way…..the pass was in the air once he got loose. It was holding…..We’ve seen Tre White get flagged 4-5 times this season for the same thing. The issue is that the refs hadn’t been calling that penalty earlier in the game. Bradberry got away with the same grabby coverage on several similar routes during the game. Changing what is and is not going to be called in the last five minutes of the game incenses the fans and causes controversy. Quote
Saxum Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 10 hours ago, pocoboy said: I hate to say it, but I don't feel that they want guys like me as consumers anymore. I don't tune in for theatrics, politics, or the type of pop music that litters this "spectacle." And then, we finally get to the true reason that those who are their loyal, week-in and week-out customers tune in, and then they have systems in place which allow for 1 of 7 underpaid, part-time officials to ruin our primary focus. They take the game and turn it into a mockery. All of this thrown together, and it gives me the feeling I have better ways to waste my Sunday afternoons. Goodell & the NFL are ruining something I've loved since childhood. And I even wanted (ever so slightly) for the Chiefs to win. Quote 10 hr pocoboy changed the title to Brick-By-Brick, the NFL Losing Me As A Fan You forgot to include LAMP in subject indicating you wanted attention like a child holding his or her breath turning blue which is a Bills color. 1 1 Quote
Rocbillsfan1 Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 10 hours ago, nucci said: If you're a football fan that was a great game to watch. If you didn't like it then you should probably move on to another sport Correction it was a great game until the refs ruined it. Quote
SoTier Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 10 hours ago, pocoboy said: I hate to say it, but I don't feel that they want guys like me as consumers anymore. I don't tune in for theatrics, politics, or the type of pop music that litters this "spectacle." And then, we finally get to the true reason that those who are their loyal, week-in and week-out customers tune in, and then they have systems in place which allow for 1 of 7 underpaid, part-time officials to ruin our primary focus. They take the game and turn it into a mockery. All of this thrown together, and it gives me the feeling I have better ways to waste my Sunday afternoons. Goodell & the NFL are ruining something I've loved since childhood. And I even wanted (ever so slightly) for the Chiefs to win. Cry me a river. There's no totally objective way to call penalties in any sport, so there are always going to be "bad" calls, "non-calls", and untimely calls. They are part of any game, not just the NFL, so if you don't like it, take up fishing or running ... just don't do it competively because tournaments and races have rules. Quote
NoSaint Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: Maybe it was rigged in favor of KC. That's the beauty of paying off the ref; he has enormous power to alter the outcome of a game, especially if it's close. Calling a defensive hold can be done on any passing play, and if it's the right time, it will give the offense a free set of downs. That's if you want to favor the offensive team. Also, you can call an offensive holding call on any play, and that often kills drives. The officials have enormous power to alter games with just those 2 penalties. im sure the nfl loves the headlines and that the eagles didn’t get a shot at a legendary comeback drive or possible overtime Quote
streetkings01 Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Finally found a smart man on Twitter that saw it like I saw it. Bradberry was toast and grabbing JuJu kept him from going the complete other direction. Look at my post…..I said the same exact thing. 1 Quote
The Red King Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 4 hours ago, kota said: blaming a game on a ref is lol. These are bang bang plays. Rams vs. Saints NFC Championship game would disagree with you. Quote
Augie Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 There was no “hear me out”, so I didn’t. 😋 They need to keep crews together (not the All Star refs that led to the Saints getting screwed in the worst high profile call EVER), and IMO they should be well paid, full time employees. Quote
Epstein's Mother Posted February 13, 2023 Posted February 13, 2023 37 minutes ago, Limeaid said: You forgot to include LAMP in subject indicating you wanted attention like a child holding his or her breath turning blue which is a Bills color. Does this surprise you? His screen name is literally "little boy". Quote
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