SB LVll Game Thread: Eagles VS Chiefs

[Billz4ever]

4 minutes ago, Success said:

 

I'd agree - but Reid is still important. If he retires, it makes things much harder for the Chiefs.

 

Sure, they could pick up another top coach. But I wouldn't bet on it.

 

If Reid retires and Bieniemy gets picked up for a HC gig, the Chiefs are a much different looking team.

 

If Reid were possibly thinking retirement though I think he would've let them know so they could possibly promote Bieniemy instead of him leaving too.

Edited February 13, 2023 by Billz4ever

[GETTOTHE50]

2 minutes ago, Nitro said:

I watched and found it to be a tepid game.  The holding call was 50/50.  The bad punt in the beginning of the fourth quarter and subsequent 65 yard return was the game changer for me. 

tepid is the perfect word for it.

 

but the holding call was egregious.

[Donuts and Doritos]

22 minutes ago, billsbackto81 said:

Wasn't it called on 2nd down? Can't recall but thought they still had 3rd down if it wasn't called.

 

It was 3rd down. They'd have kicked & we'd have gotten an exciting minute twenty of football to see if Philly could come back. Instead I got a boring anticlimactic minute of Mahomes kneeing for a gimme field goal. The refs determined that, ending with that call. He was inside 5 yds where he can have contact, there wasn't much of a hold, that's a no call all season long, not sure why they decided to make the game about them there instead of letting them play.

 

& The "what's a catch" calls must have had the international audiences saying "boy what's with Americans not knowing a catch when they see one".

 

In the end Philly should have won, but let the Chiefs back in it & really only have themselves to blame. 

 

Edited February 13, 2023 by Donuts and Doritos

[TheFunPolice]

Happy for Andy Reid.

 

I hope he coaches another 5-7 years. If he does he will be in the conversation for GOAT HC, especially given his coaching tree.

 

He'll be top 3-4 at least all time in HC wins, with 2 different teams, multiple SB wins and only got a true top QB late in his career.

 

After all that crap of he can't win the big one it's nice to see him get his props. 

[Nitro]

Just now, GETTOTHE50 said:

tepid is the perfect word for it.

 

but the holding call was egregious.

I saw O linemen do take downs and they were not called.   NFL officiating is so uneven. 

[Process]

Devonta Smith you SUCK. He was wide open. 

 

 

[TC in St. Louis]

The holding call ruined a great football game.  It handed the game to the Chiefs.  It would have been fun to watch Philly try to tie or win the game.  

 

However, Mahomes is a freakin' wizard out there.  And we beat him 2 of the last 3 games.  Should have won game #2.  We're good, too.

[ExiledInIllinois]

They decide the SuperBowl on that... Yet these weren't penalties in 2021. 

 

We deserve better NFL!

 

Edited February 13, 2023 by ExiledInIllinois

[Tulsabillsfanz]

The tough part of the game deciding defensive holding call is you can probably find some type of defensive holding (or offensive holding) on more than 50% of NFL plays.  But, it should be an extremely blatant & obvious defensive hold to throw a flag that basically decides the outcome of the game.
 

That defensive holding call was not blatant or obvious. Therefore, it was a horrible call. The NFL needs to learn from basketball’s unwritten rulebook that a foul on a last second shot must be very blatant and obvious before the foul is called. 

[Meatloaf63]

9 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

How do you figure?  KC has to kick the FG and there's plenty of time for Philly to either tie or take the lead.

 

Worst call in NFL history.  The outcome of the game was decided on that call, which hadn't been called all night if I remember correctly.

There have always been bad calls or ignored calls. The pats beat Atlanta only because the refs ignored a face masking call on the pats which led to a sack and a punt instead of time off the clock and a field goal. Totally gave the pats the time to come back and win, just not as obvious but just as crucial. The Eagles got plenty of good fortune on calls tonight, the last one was just at a bad place and time.

[RyanC883]

2 minutes ago, Cray51 said:

He is, but let’s not act like he was his superhuman self tonight.

 

Reid calls some spectacular motions in the short game and gave Mahomes wide open options at the goal line.

 

Bolton deserved the MVP over Mahomes imo

 

agree with all those points, but I think that KC will be just fine without Reid.  They'll find someone who can get WRs open like that.  When you have a good OL that can create time you get WRs open.  

 

I'd give the MVP to the Eagles OL (I know, has to be one person, and only once has gone to losing team).  That said, no single player really stood out all game.  Mahomes is a lazy pick (QB on winning team).   

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

2 minutes ago, Nitro said:

I saw O linemen do take downs and they were not called.   NFL officiating is so uneven. 

Not a single offensive hold or defensive hold call all night.

 

can’t call the game one way, and then switch with 50 seconds left in the game. 

[newcam2012]

9 minutes ago, MPT said:

 

I'm not hating on Mahomes. I was replying to a guy who said Mahomes was "virtually unstoppable." That is not a label you can put on a QB who threw for under 200 yards. He didn't make any big mistakes and his team was virtually unstoppable in the second half. But he had a very mediocre game. Two of his touchdown passes were thrown to guys who had their entire half of the field uncovered.

I get what you are saying. However, Mahomes did everything right in the second half. He led his team to victory. 

 

Somehow if it were Allen playing I think your thinking would be different. 

[RyanC883]

4 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

 

It was 3rd down. They'd have kicked & we'd have gotten an exciting minute twenty of football to see if Philly could come back. Instead I got a boring anticlimactic minute of Mahomes kneeing for a gimme field goal. The refs determined that, ending with that call. He was inside 5 yds where he can have contact, there wasn't much of a hold, that's a no call all season long, not sure why they decided to make the game about them there instead of letting them play.

 

& The "what's a catch" calls must have had the international audiences saying "boy what's with Americans not knowing a catch when they see one".

 

In the end Philly should have won, but let the Chiefs back in it & really only have themselves to blame. 

 

 

they did let the Chiefs back in.  One of my friends texted me they looked like the Bills letting someone come back with bizarre plays.  But I'd be angry at the Refs also.  

1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

Not a single offensive hold or defensive hold call all night.

 

can’t call the game one way, and then switch with 50 seconds left in the game. 

 

Bingo.

[Billz4ever]

1 minute ago, Meatloaf63 said:

There have always been bad calls or ignored calls. The pats beat Atlanta only because the refs ignored a face masking call on the pats which led to a sack and a punt instead of time off the clock and a field goal. Totally gave the pats the time to come back and win, just not as obvious but just as crucial. The Eagles got plenty of good fortune on calls tonight, the last one was just at a bad place and time.

I see non calls differently than calls like that though.

 

That gave the Chiefs a first down they didn't earn and it basically ended the game. That shouldn't happen in any game, nevermind the Super Bowl.

 

 

[RyanC883]

7 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:

Happy for Andy Reid.

 

I hope he coaches another 5-7 years. If he does he will be in the conversation for GOAT HC, especially given his coaching tree.

 

He'll be top 3-4 at least all time in HC wins, with 2 different teams, multiple SB wins and only got a true top QB late in his career.

 

After all that crap of he can't win the big one it's nice to see him get his props. 

 

this one gets a big ** from me.  Hurts gifting KC a TD, Refs gifting KC inability to come back.  Really coaching didn't stand out today.  

[Draconator]

 

[Tulsabillsfanz]

When I think of Patrick Mahomes, I picture him motioning in a forward direction, indicating a first down from defensive holding or pass interference. I think I’ve seen him do that over a hundred times already in his career. 

[Meatloaf63]

Just now, Billz4ever said:

I see non calls differently than calls like that though.

 

That gave the Chiefs a first down they didn't earn and it basically ended the game. That shouldn't happen in any game, nevermind the Super Bowl.

 

 

I disagree, I think any time you give a team an advantage it’s wrong, whether you ignore a blatant call or make a weak or non existent one they both affect the outcome. I wanted the chiefs except I wanted Kelce to get his face stomped. But I felt dirty after that, and we all got cheated out of a possible great finish or overtime game.

[CapeBreton]

That holding call is going to cause me to lose interest in the NFL. How do they just let them play all game and then literally end the game because of a penalty? Unbelievable call, I feel bad for Eagles fans.