NFL Honors award winners (Daboll is COTY, Mahomes is MVP)

[Sargent Hulka]

5 hours ago, StHustle said:

Yeah let’s fire the winningest coach in franchise history and promote the OC to HC. Got it.

If he hasn't won a championship, he hasn't won anything. That's why they play, from the opening day of training camp, to the last play in the Super Bowl. If you could peer into the future,  able to see that the Bills would win an average of 12 games per season for the next five seasons, but be eliminated every year in the playoffs, do you think knowing that, Buffalo fans would be satisfied? Hell no!

Edited February 10, 2023 by Sargent Hulka

[StHustle]

22 minutes ago, Sargent Hulka said:

If he hasn't won a championship, he hasn't won anything. That's why they play, from the opening day of training camp, to the last play in the Super Bowl. If you could peer into the future,  able to see that the Bills would win an average of 12 games per season for the next five seasons, but be eliminated every year in the playoffs, do you think knowing that, Buffalo fans would be satisfied? Hell no!

Check history…it very rarely works out that you fire a perennial playoff head coach (who actually wins playoff games) and get better with the next coach. It usually gets worse. You allow the current coach to keep tweaking his staff and the GM to keep tweaking the roster and it’s clear McBrane is dead set on doing that year after year. It’s rarely a linear path to the Super Bowl. No coach is under the pressure of win a Super Bowl or youre fired. Too much goes on with injuries and the ball needing to bounce your way, is involved with being the 1 team out of 32 to win it all. Consistently being in the top 20% of the league while always seeking improvement is good enough to keep your job anywhere!

[chongli]

6 hours ago, balln said:

The move was to leave McD and Frazier in the parking lot in kc and hire Daboll to continue to groom Josh and win Super Bowl in buffalo. But no. Too scared to conservative from owner down . This is professional sports. Gotta be cut throat 

 

Yeah, but this is hindsight. Many here last year were upset about Daboll's play calling. Let's see how Daboll does in his second year first. I am not necessarily in love with McD, but just really not sure if Daboll would be better.

[balln]

2 minutes ago, chongli said:

 

Yeah, but this is hindsight. Many here last year were upset about Daboll's play calling. Let's see how Daboll does in his second year first. I am not necessarily in love with McD, but just really not sure if Daboll would be better.

Nope. The minute game was over. Thought the move was to keep Daboll. 
 

was either on terrry to pay him hc salary to keep him in buff as OC or make the hard / radical (but right ) move to can McD and hire daboll

 

can’t we just allow for the possibility that maybe the big game day decision making and defense problems is bc of McD? Maybe the right move is to move on from McD ? 

Edited February 10, 2023 by balln

[chongli]

2 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

 

- Belichick won 3 COTY awards while never having a losing season.

 

 

Well, except for this year and first year at NE. 😉 But I get your point.

Edited February 10, 2023 by chongli

[Airseven]

3 hours ago, arcane said:

Even if this were true, who cares? Nobody stays "on trajectory" in the cap world. The bills spent 2.5 years as the darling that everyone wanted to be, and one game is apparently enough to make everyone here an unintelligent pisspot about them.

 

The bills have josh allen, the jets have never and will not soon have a qb like him, which will always give the bills an edge. If they get a qb like him, their AMAZEBALLS roster will eventually take hits like ours. 

 

You people are seriously getting impossible to stomach 

Bills were on an ascending Super Bowl trajectory until 13 seconds. Now they’re just a rollercoaster much like their QB.

[Saxum]

15 hours ago, chongli said:

 

Offensive Plyer of the Year: Justin Jefferson

 

Jefferson is such a tool but I prefer a swiss army knife.

[chongli]

35 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Jefferson is such a tool but I prefer a swiss army knife.

 

Fixed ..and thanks!!

[Saxum]

1 hour ago, chongli said:

 

Well, except for this year and first year at NE. 😉 But I get your point.

 

[hmsmystic]

5 hours ago, balln said:

Nope. The minute game was over. Thought the move was to keep Daboll. 
 

was either on terrry to pay him hc salary to keep him in buff as OC or make the hard / radical (but right ) move to can McD and hire daboll

 

can’t we just allow for the possibility that maybe the big game day decision making and defense problems is bc of McD? Maybe the right move is to move on from McD ? 

This is ludicrous-sounds like when SD fired Schottenheimer for whoever remembers or St. Louis fired Vermeil for Martz.  The only way you fire McD is if you are ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN you are upgrading.  So for like Andy Reid- yes absolutely but not an unproven Daboll

Edited February 10, 2023 by hmsmystic

[Sherlock Holmes]

What the hell is going on around here...Purdy was easily OROY, it's purdy obvious

[chongli]

43 minutes ago, Sherlock Holmes said:

What the hell is going on around here...Purdy was easily OROY, it's purdy obvious

 

Agreed...if he had played the full year or so.

[LOVEMESOMEBILLS]

18 hours ago, Airseven said:

Jets trajectory surpasses that of the Bills. They’re an above average, veteran QB away from overtaking the Bills.

 

 Is that it? And how long have they been searching for this QB? You're making it sound alot easier than it is. They also have no money while not paying for at the very least, an above average, veteran QB. 

 

 Also if their trajectory surpasses that of the Bills why didn't they make up much ground this year? They had the same QBs and killed it in the draft, but finished 6.5 games back. Shaving off only a half game from last years 7 game deficit. 

 

 

 

 

[Billl]

13 hours ago, balln said:

Yes. Exactly. McD is only the “winningest” - honestly who give a f , only coaching stat that matters is Super Bowl wins - because he has Josh Allen and Daboll converted him into a superstar. 
 

his Defenses have been SOFT AND COLLAPSED WOEFULLY every playoff game

 

furhermore - and especially

relevant now - Daboll would have brought in wink and that giants D played a lot better scheme for championship ball then Mc Frazier 

Daboll is clearly the superior coach compared to McDermott who could never have taken a mediocre roster and a mediocre QB to the playoffs in his first year as a head coach.