LABILLBACKER Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 3 hours ago, uticaclub said: Not surprised Mahomes won MVP, but KC is most likely a wildcard team without him Buffalo picks in the top 5 without Allen. Josh is more valuable Mahomes has a better offensive support system including Reid than Josh does. All Josh has is Diggs. 1 1 Quote
Man with No Name Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 Good for him on a job well done, but there are at least 4 coaches who did a better job than him this year. a silly, somewhat arbitrary award. Quote
Chandler#81 Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 Chris Simms. Talk about a ‘fall from Grace’! That’ll teach ya to badmouth the Bills! 1 Quote
BobbyC81 Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 3 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Mahomes has a better offensive support system including Reid than Josh does. All Josh has is Diggs. C’mon, he also has Pro Bowl TE Dawson Knox, who scored a TD in the flag football game. 1 Quote
BananaB Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Einstein said: Daboll won an award in his first year that Mcd hasn’t in 6 tries. I think a rookie coach that turns things around has an advantage in this category. Same as Stefanski did a few years ago. 1 Quote
McBean Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 Congrats to WNY born and raised Brian Daboll on COTY. Man, would’ve been nice if we had the opportunity to hire him as our coach. 1 Quote
balln Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, McBean said: Congrats to WNY born and raised Brian Daboll on COTY. Man, would’ve been nice if we had the opportunity to hire him as our coach. The move was to leave McD and Frazier in the parking lot in kc and hire Daboll to continue to groom Josh and win Super Bowl in buffalo. But no. Too scared to conservative from owner down . This is professional sports. Gotta be cut throat 1 Quote
BillsPride12 Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 7 hours ago, FireChans said: Guarantees an Eagles SB. No MVP has won the Super Bowl in over 20 years. Especially since Hurts should've won it over Mahomes this year 1 Quote
StHustle Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, balln said: The move was to leave McD and Frazier in the parking lot in kc and hire Daboll to continue to groom Josh and win Super Bowl in buffalo. But no. Too scared to conservative from owner down . This is professional sports. Gotta be cut throat Yeah let’s fire the winningest coach in franchise history and promote the OC to HC. Got it. 1 Quote
balln Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, StHustle said: Yeah let’s fire the winningest coach in franchise history and promote the OC to HC. Got it. Yes. Exactly. McD is only the “winningest” - honestly who give a f , only coaching stat that matters is Super Bowl wins - because he has Josh Allen and Daboll converted him into a superstar. his Defenses have been SOFT AND COLLAPSED WOEFULLY every playoff game furhermore - and especially relevant now - Daboll would have brought in wink and that giants D played a lot better scheme for championship ball then Mc Frazier Edited February 10, 2023 by balln Quote
StHustle Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, balln said: furhermore - and especially relevant now - Daboll would have brought in wink and that giants D played a lot better scheme for championship ball then Mc Frazier You mean the defense that, in their final playoff game, gave up 38 points to a team that averaged 28 points? And coulda scored more but it was a 30 point blowout? Oh yeah that “championship ball” plying defense. Quote
balln Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, StHustle said: You mean the defense that, in their final playoff game, gave up 38 points to a team that averaged 28 points? And coulda scored more but it was a 30 point blowout? Oh yeah that “championship ball” plying defense. Such an inferior roster. Comparison is dumb. I’m talking zone vs man. Scheming. Big game coaching. Ravens fine you can keep your winningiest Hc that loses in 13 seconds . Unbelievable Quote
BarleyNY Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 5 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said: Mahomes has a better offensive support system including Reid than Josh does. All Josh has is Diggs. Reid is Mahomes’ big advantage. Both only have one good receiving option this season. KC has a better OL. Neither have anyone special at RB. The Bills had a better defense when everyone was healthy, but not by the end of the season. Mahomes and the Chiefs, of course, have achieved more. There’s also Burrow and Hurts to consider. Take out Hurts and you have the obvious top 3 IMO. I think the determining factor for me would be okay down the stretch. Allen stumbled by trying to do too much on too many plays. The other two did not falter the same way. I still have Mahomes over Burrow. He did more with a lot less receiving help. So it eems to me like he deserved it. He’s still the best player at the toughest position on the field. If Allen takes the plays the defenses give him and gets some help from Dorsey and Beane he could win MVP multiple times in years to come. 1 Quote
Einstein Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 6 hours ago, Billl said: COTY is stupid. You can’t win it if you were good the year before. Sometimes. But Belichick has also won coach of the year 3 times during the Patriots dynasty reign. They were never bad 2 Quote
Airseven Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 10 hours ago, Einstein said: Daboll won an award in his first year that Mcd hasn’t in 6 tries. That’s not fair. The opportunity was there for Daboll to improve a bad team. McDermott’s challenge to win that type of award is to take a good team to the Super Bowl. That climb has proven steeper. Quote
McBean Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 3 hours ago, balln said: The move was to leave McD and Frazier in the parking lot in kc and hire Daboll to continue to groom Josh and win Super Bowl in buffalo. But no. Too scared to conservative from owner down . This is professional sports. Gotta be cut throat Couldn’t agree more. When we don’t make playoffs this coming year or get bounced first round Frazier or Dorsey will get the ax. McDermott could not win a game for 3 years and be ok. He’s the Pegula’s son. Quote
Franco_92 Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 9 hours ago, Airseven said: Jets trajectory surpasses that of the Bills. They’re an above average, veteran QB away from overtaking the Bills. Even if this were true, who cares? Nobody stays "on trajectory" in the cap world. The bills spent 2.5 years as the darling that everyone wanted to be, and one game is apparently enough to make everyone here an unintelligent pisspot about them. The bills have josh allen, the jets have never and will not soon have a qb like him, which will always give the bills an edge. If they get a qb like him, their AMAZEBALLS roster will eventually take hits like ours. You people are seriously getting impossible to stomach Quote
Gregg Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 Congrats to Daboll. To get 9 wins and a playoff win from that roster is impressive. Quote
Einstein Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Airseven said: That’s not fair. The opportunity was there for Daboll to improve a bad team. McDermott’s challenge to win that type of award is to take a good team to the Super Bowl. That climb has proven steeper. It is fair. - Belichick won 3 COTY awards while never having a losing season. - Vrabel won COTY while after a AFCCG season. - Harbaugh won COTY after a 10-6 season. - McVay won CTOY while going to the Super Bowl. 1 Quote
Matt_In_NH Posted February 10, 2023 Posted February 10, 2023 12 hours ago, Einstein said: Daboll won an award in his first year that Mcd hasn’t in 6 tries. Does that make Dabol a better coach in your mind? Mike Vrabel Kevin Stefanski, Matt Nagy, Jason Garrett, Ron Rivera, Lovie Smith Dick Jauron have won it too. Quote
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